Intro - Been vaping for about 6 years - need advice

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Switch setups for the day. That will tell you if there's something wrong with your technique, or HIS equipment is functioning better. Maybe yours is.... there's something wrong with it.

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We have switched so many times, and every time his does the same for me as mine does and vice versa!! It’s nuts!
 
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Sometimes, people cross post, if you've already addressed it, don't worry.... Just ignore the person, they won't see it as rude or anything.

This is very confusing. Have you asked your husband to vape YOUR juice and YOUR settings in his mod? This does make no sense whatsoever, if yours functions exactly FINE when he vapes it.... Um, would you try his settings? Maybe the higher wattage is actually better for the coil in some odd fashion????? Lower nic shouldn't change how the juice functions that I know of.

I'd try vaping at higher wattage, his wattage, and see what happens. I never, ever say that, either. There is NO way higher wattage should prolong coil life.

I don't think a particular nic level should extend/reduce coil life either, I am pretty stumped.

I'd get a new setup for yourself, if you try that and it's still the same. Something different than what you have, maybe you and this setup just can't meet or something. Probably someone with more experience than me will have suggestions.

Airflow identical? Airflow is one you haven't answered....

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Sometimes, people cross post, if you've already addressed it, don't worry.... Just ignore the person, they won't see it as rude or anything.

This is very confusing. Have you asked your husband to vape YOUR juice and YOUR settings in his mod? This does make no sense whatsoever, if yours functions exactly FINE when he vapes it.... Um, would you try his settings? Maybe the higher wattage is actually better for the coil in some odd fashion????? Lower nic shouldn't change how the juice functions that I know of.

I'd try vaping at higher wattage, his wattage, and see what happens. I never, ever say that, either. There is NO way higher wattage should prolong coil life.

I don't think a particular nic level should extend/reduce coil life either, I am pretty stumped.

I'd get a new setup for yourself, if you try that and it's still the same. Something different than what you have, maybe you and this setup just can't meet or something. Probably someone with more experience than me will have suggestions.

Airflow identical? Airflow is one you haven't answered....

Anna
I have done all of this! And I’ve even gotten different setups (he’s only used the iStick & Nautilus & Nautilus Mini).. I’ve tried the higher voltage and it seemed like it was going to be the trick for a few minutes, then it just burned out even faster. I’m looking to get a new setup, just trying to figure out what to try that might give me different results and give me the flavor I want so badly. I don’t care about clouds, I’m a mouth to lung vaper. I smoked for 20+ years and quit multiple times and this is the only thing that’s actually kept me from smoking for so long. I will either find something that will work for me or I’ll just keep vaping burnt tasting liquid. Thanks so much for all your help! You’re a very nice person! :)
 
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Sometimes, people cross post, if you've already addressed it, don't worry.... Just ignore the person, they won't see it as rude or anything.

This is very confusing. Have you asked your husband to vape YOUR juice and YOUR settings in his mod? This does make no sense whatsoever, if yours functions exactly FINE when he vapes it.... Um, would you try his settings? Maybe the higher wattage is actually better for the coil in some odd fashion????? Lower nic shouldn't change how the juice functions that I know of.

I'd try vaping at higher wattage, his wattage, and see what happens. I never, ever say that, either. There is NO way higher wattage should prolong coil life.

I don't think a particular nic level should extend/reduce coil life either, I am pretty stumped.

I'd get a new setup for yourself, if you try that and it's still the same. Something different than what you have, maybe you and this setup just can't meet or something. Probably someone with more experience than me will have suggestions.

Airflow identical? Airflow is one you haven't answered....

Anna
And yes, airflow is the same! So strange. I was looking at the Aspire Plato and thought of trying that, but I’m not sure because the coils will be the same (I know there are options for different coils with that, but if I tried it I’d want to stick with the same coils).. I’d really like to be able to build my own bc I’m spending a fortune on coils, but I don’t think I can do the tedious work that comes with building.
 
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Thanks! So I tried (when I first started vaping and there weren’t a lot of choices) the Joyetech (I can’t remember what type, this was so long ago).. it was one of few that was available in the only vape shop at the time nearby. I used the little tops that had cotton in them and you’d add the liquid, they weren’t tanks. Then I started trying others and I can’t remember every single one I have tried, but what I’ve used most and had this issue with all is the following:
itaste SVD with the extension (I used it with two batteries and with one, no difference other than with two it lasted longer (obviously))
Provari 2.5 Mini
Eleaf iStick

Tanks:
Kanger (can’t remember names of the types I used, but I know one didn’t have the vent holes & one did)
Aspire Nautilus
Aspire Nautilus Mini
Aspire Nautilus 2

I know there were several others long ago that I’m totally blanking out on, but I’m positive that the technology of those was so old that they don’t make anything like them anymore. One was a really big brand though, I remember seeing that Method Man was using that brand to vape .... Lol, I know that’s totally irrelevant but that’s the only thing that I can remember about that one. It was the first “nice” setup I ever had.

Now back then I didn’t have the issue with the burning, that’s started within the past year or two, but all from the SVD to the Provari to the iStick, and Kanger to Nautilus (all of the Nautilus tanks), I’ve had the issue. I hope this will help. I’m not sure if I need to respond to each person who told me I should share the setups. Hopefully everyone will see this.

I also want to say that I do prime my coils well, I use the lowest voltage, and my husband doesn’t have the issue and I set his up for him. The only differences between his and mine are 1) he uses a lower level of nic & 2) he typically uses a higher voltage.

Thanks to ALL for your comments and willingness to help!! I really appreciate you all!
Ok, after all of that, here's what I think: your Provari is about as good as a mod gets in the low power regime. I seriously doubt it has anything to do with it. Also, the various Nautilus tanks are very well thought of in the MTL regime. I have seen a bunch of people quit smoking using them. Assuming you are buying authentic Aspire Nauti coils, the only thing I can assume is you are using a gunky juice that's killing your coils. Sweet and/or dark colored juices are known for this. You may wish to upgrade your Nauti to the latest model, the Nautilus X, see if that helps any. Another solid choice would be the House of Hybrid Kabuki tank, allegedly the best drop-in coil MTL tank available. It uses Nauti BVC coils, too. They're quite pricey, so I'd suggest trying a clone first, to see if you like it, before blowing the bucks on a real one. I dunno about clones, but the real ones are also available P3 threaded specifically to fit a Provari with a stronger connection, assuming yours meets this criterion.

If that doesn't work, then it's time to learn how to build your own coils and wick them. If nothing else, it's tons cheaper. There are excellent MTL RTAs out there, and you can, if you wish, pull a fresh wick with every tankfull, which should keep your flavor bright. If you move into built coils, you'll quickly see you don't have to replace the coil itself anywhere near as often as the wick. Just take out the old wick, burn the coil clean, pull a new cotton (actually, I recommend rayon), refill the tank and vape on.

Just a thought.
 

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If his is fine, but when you use it, it isn't and yours is bad but when he uses it, it isnt, then it has to be your vaping style...those are basic mtl coils and if your over vaping them, they won't keep up...you either need to not vape so hard or move up to a better system.. have you tried the nautilus 2? I'm thinking that might be worth a try . Besides that I'm not versed on drop in coils like those, so maybe others can recommend a drop in mtl that's a step up from what your having issues with, or rebuildable rtas....if you arent bothered building your own, there's some really good mtl rta's that kick .... and you won't have any more issues

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Ok, after all of that, here's what I think: your Provari is about as good as a mod gets in the low power regime. I seriously doubt it has anything to do with it. Also, the various Nautilus tanks are very well thought of in the MTL regime. I have seen a bunch of people quit smoking using them. Assuming you are buying authentic Aspire Nauti coils, the only thing I can assume is you are using a gunky juice that's killing your coils. Sweet and/or dark colored juices are known for this. You may wish to upgrade your Nauti to the latest model, the Nautilus X, see if that helps any. Another solid choice would be the House of Hybrid Kabuki tank, allegedly the best drop-in coil MTL tank available. It uses Nauti BVC coils, too. They're quite pricey, so I'd suggest trying a clone first, to see if you like it, before blowing the bucks on a real one. I dunno about clones, but the real ones are also available P3 threaded specifically to fit a Provari with a stronger connection, assuming yours meets this criterion.

If that doesn't work, then it's time to learn how to build your own coils and wick them. If nothing else, it's tons cheaper. There are excellent MTL RTAs out there, and you can, if you wish, pull a fresh wick with every tankfull, which should keep your flavor bright. If you move into built coils, you'll quickly see you don't have to replace the coil itself anywhere near as often as the wick. Just take out the old wick, burn the coil clean, pull a new cotton (actually, I recommend rayon), refill the tank and vape on.

Just a thought.
I would love to learn to build my own, I’ve heard and read that it’s really tedious and I had a brain injury so my hands shake a lot and I don’t know if I could 1) learn to do it & 2) if my hands are steady enough to do it. Thanks so much for the advice! I will read it again and try to comprehend it! ;)
 

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I would love to learn to build my own, I’ve heard and read that it’s really tedious and I had a brain injury so my hands shake a lot and I don’t know if I could 1) learn to do it & 2) if my hands are steady enough to do it. Thanks so much for the advice! I will read it again and try to comprehend it! ;)
I don't know about your hands, but read all you like and, when you are ready, there are any number of coil builders around here, including myself, who would be happy to walk you through it.
 

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Welcome and glad you joined.
Sounds like bad or short life coil day. Might want to read the replies in:
Introduction and Help with eVic Two Mini coils
Is there any way I can link my thread here over in the one you recommend that I check out? I’m still having the same issues and I’m hoping someone can help me, but I really don’t want to have to explain it again. ;)
 

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I don't know about your hands, but read all you like and, when you are ready, there are any number of coil builders around here, including myself, who would be happy to walk you through it.
I really appreciate that! Could you tell me what I’d need to start with? I don’t have much money to spend, and that’s one reason this is becoming such a problem. It’s been annoying for me always, but now that my husband is seeing how many coils I’m going through (even though I buy them online for half the price the local shops charge), he’s saying that I’m gonna have to stop vaping because he can not afford it. When I was using the Kanger tank, I saw a video on YouTube showing how to rebuild the coils for that, and I bought the wicks the guy in the video used but I was never able to get them to work. I don’t know what I was doing wrong, but I believe I was somehow shorting them each time I tried. I gave up after probably a dozen tries, but I never really liked that tank anyway because I always had problems with the bottom getting stuck. But if I can buy what I need fairly cheap, I would like to give it a shot. I don’t really know how steady my hands need to be, but I’m willing to try, and my son could probably do it if I can’t. I really appreciate everyone’s comments and advice/troubleshooting.. You guys are awesome! I forgot about this thread until I had my Provari come back with an error that I couldn’t figure out, so I googled it and it brought me to this site, then I saw the little notification and I remembered, lol. If I seem ditzy at all it’s because I had a brain AVM that ruptured and caused permanent damage, so I apologize if I seem like I’m stupid.
 
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Ok, after all of that, here's what I think: your Provari is about as good as a mod gets in the low power regime. I seriously doubt it has anything to do with it. Also, the various Nautilus tanks are very well thought of in the MTL regime. I have seen a bunch of people quit smoking using them. Assuming you are buying authentic Aspire Nauti coils, the only thing I can assume is you are using a gunky juice that's killing your coils. Sweet and/or dark colored juices are known for this. You may wish to upgrade your Nauti to the latest model, the Nautilus X, see if that helps any. Another solid choice would be the House of Hybrid Kabuki tank, allegedly the best drop-in coil MTL tank available. It uses Nauti BVC coils, too. They're quite pricey, so I'd suggest trying a clone first, to see if you like it, before blowing the bucks on a real one. I dunno about clones, but the real ones are also available P3 threaded specifically to fit a Provari with a stronger connection, assuming yours meets this criterion.

If that doesn't work, then it's time to learn how to build your own coils and wick them. If nothing else, it's tons cheaper. There are excellent MTL RTAs out there, and you can, if you wish, pull a fresh wick with every tankfull, which should keep your flavor bright. If you move into built coils, you'll quickly see you don't have to replace the coil itself anywhere near as often as the wick. Just take out the old wick, burn the coil clean, pull a new cotton (actually, I recommend rayon), refill the tank and vape on.

Just a thought.
Thank you! I’m not sure what you mean by try a clone first? Is that basically a knockoff? Where would I find something like that? I’m not sure if I mentioned that I’ve also used the Nautilus 2, and at first it wasn’t working well at all, but recently it’s been working better than anything else I have tried. Still having the same problem, but it does seem like my coils are tolerable for a bit longer. Not enjoyable, but I can at least tolerate them for a bit longer. Thanks for your comment and taking the time to try and help a stranger! I love this forum because it shows that people still care about people that they don’t even know. I don’t mean to sound weird, it’s just I’ve been through a lot and had started to lose hope in people. I know that sounds awful, but I’ve seen a lot of ugly people and it’s heart warming to know that you guys care enough to spend time trying to help me when you don’t even know me. ;)
 

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I’d also like to add that it’s not just taste, and it’s not just me. I got out of the shower the other day and he had just been in the bathroom and as soon as I opened the shower, I smelled a strong (delicious) aroma of grape. I asked what flavor he was vaping and sure enough it was grape! Mine never smells good. And he’s tasted mine and he notices that it never really tastes like the flavor it’s supposed to except for when I first put a new coil in. He thinks that I hold the button down too long or take too big a hit, and I tried his theory and started taking tiny hits (like 3 seconds, which doesn’t even feel like I’m getting a hit), but it didn’t make a difference. This whole thing is so bizarre and I really want to try either building my own or getting a new setup, but I know he wouldn’t be okay with me getting a new setup, and I don’t know if I can build my own, but if I can get what I need to try, I’m more than willing to do that! I’ve honestly thought of going back to cigarettes (yuck!) just because I’m so beyond frustrated with this, and I’m extremely sensitive to whatever nasty chemicals are in cigarettes because I’ve quit and started back at least 6 times and each time I quit, I put on at least 15-20lbs and when I’ve started back I’ll lose it all within a month! Isn’t that awful?!? Clearly cigarettes are terrible, but for me it’s almost like a “diet” option. I’m not overweight, I’m actually around the low end of average, but I started smoking when I was like 10 years old and I was always made fun of for being too skinny, and now that I’m at a normal weight, I have so many health problems that I’m not able to stay in shape, so it’s been really tempting to just start smoking again. I’m sure I won’t actually do it, but it’s that bad, the taste. And the liquids I use are all light colored and I always get 50/50 PG/VG, so from everything I’ve read I don’t think the liquid is the culprit. Maybe I just have the worst luck? Lol, thanks to all of you guys! @BrotherBob @suprtrkr @vapdivrr @stols001 @Ralph_K @Beamslider @bombastinator @MJCSD @WillyZee @Baditude
Thank you ALL!! Sorry if I missed anyone!! ♡
 

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Have you tried a tank on the lines of a baby beast. One that is supposed to be for direct to lung?? Second, how do you smoke, do you go from mouth to lung or direct to lung??

My other idea, when I switch flavors, which is about every couple of days, I take out the old coil, let hot water run over it for a few min, blow through both ends, set it aside to air dry, then put in the coil I had put off to the side for a couple of days to air dry. Rinse and repeat.

You may try changing out your mix. Go to a 70/30. Try and set up your machine so it best matches a cig, cause I also wonder, are you not getting the "cig feel" and blaming the taste as your reason not to vape?? Just a after thought.
 

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Is there any way I can link my thread here over in the one you recommend that I check out? I’m still having the same issues and I’m hoping someone can help me, but I really don’t want to have to explain it again. ;)
Just go to the post you want to quote, copy and paste to new post and add quotes " " and refer to quoted post RE: http: ........ underneath quoted portion.
 
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Hey guys! Sorry I haven’t checked in for a bit. Anyway, so I’m still having these issues but getting less patient about it!! I put in a new coil the night before last & less than 24 hours later it tasted awful! So I cleaned it really thoroughly and put it back together, but it only took a few draws for me to realize that it wasn’t gonna work. I put in a new coil and actually made a video showing how I’d cleaned it and what I got out when I cleaned it etc., and here it is about 15 hours later (several of those hours I was sleeping!) and it’s tasting terrible again!! This is beyond frustrating!! I really don’t want to smoke again, but I’m almost to that point!! Just the things of the smell of cigarettes makes me sick, but I cannot continue to do this. And my hubby is constantly complaining because he says “we can’t afford to keep buying you new stuff when you keep having the same problem”, (easy for him to say when he’s not having issues!). So I’m thinking of getting the Innokin Zenith MTL & just seeing what happens. Idk if I can upload videos or pics here,but I’d be happy to share if anyone thinks seeing any of that might help? Any ideas guys?
 
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I'm wondering if you are not taking to hard a draw. don't want to take a draw like of a cig need a gentle draw and maybe open up your airflow a little
My husband seems to think I am, but on one device it shows how long you’re pressing the button & ive been very aware of this since he mentioned it. No change. Idk, I’m thinking now that I didn’t have this issue until a couple of years ago, but that’s around the time I had the brain injury so I don’t know what changed. The only change I can think of relativity close to the time the flavors started burning is my husband began vaping, lol. I know that’s not the reason, but that’s literally the only thing I can think of that’s changed!! Thank you for your kindness and help!
 
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