Okay so this is after less than 15 hours of use! I put in a a brand new coil at around 8:30pm, this pic was taken around 11:30am, and I did actually sleep a little, lol. So I had it on 3.2 bc on 3 it wasn’t giving me any vape. I went down to 3.0 when it first started tasting burned. Idk!! I’m so beyond frustrated!!
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Is this your first vape setup since (long ago) also I believe the site I saw selling it was fro $8.50 or something like that. It's less than a carton of cigarettes, seriously (I guess you could have paid more, depending on where you bought it).
But, investing in a decent starter setup you can vape as well as the right types of liquid is kind of going to be essential.
The good news is, once you get that "ideal" setup (and if you are serious about things, a backup vape in case anything happens to yours) vaping can be as expensive as you make it. You don't need to spend hundreds of dollars on a new kit (and buying online can be cheaper, for sure) but you do need something reliable that you can actually vape.
I'm afraid that if my husband were to get "picky" about my saving my own life (I was nearing COPD and he didn't "have words" at all) and the "costs" of that... Well he was smart enough to see that I'm more useful to have around when not attached to an oxygen tank. Heh, ESPECIALLY if he's still a smoker, show him some of the shock/horror ads by "anti tobacco" organizations (why-quit is a great site for horror tales/pics about smoking and ask him if he'd like that for you.
Even more, I don't see how it's any of your boyfriend's business what vape you buy, if you are using your own money. If you are using his, I suppose that gets more complicated.
I regret zero "wasted pennies" I spent getting to a good vape for me, because it was surely less than the cost of my smoking (and health aliments). Man up, just a bit. I quit with a smoker in the house, but at least he wasn't "at me" about vaping, nor would I have allowed that as a) we are both grownups and b) it was my money etc.
My husband is now vaping himself although he's still dual using. I wasn't expecting that, remotely, but who knows, your BF may end up walking in your footsteps... PROVIDED you get equipment you can actually use successfully etc.
Anna
But, investing in a decent starter setup you can vape as well as the right types of liquid is kind of going to be essential.
The good news is, once you get that "ideal" setup (and if you are serious about things, a backup vape in case anything happens to yours) vaping can be as expensive as you make it. You don't need to spend hundreds of dollars on a new kit (and buying online can be cheaper, for sure) but you do need something reliable that you can actually vape.
I'm afraid that if my husband were to get "picky" about my saving my own life (I was nearing COPD and he didn't "have words" at all) and the "costs" of that... Well he was smart enough to see that I'm more useful to have around when not attached to an oxygen tank. Heh, ESPECIALLY if he's still a smoker, show him some of the shock/horror ads by "anti tobacco" organizations (why-quit is a great site for horror tales/pics about smoking and ask him if he'd like that for you.
Even more, I don't see how it's any of your boyfriend's business what vape you buy, if you are using your own money. If you are using his, I suppose that gets more complicated.
I regret zero "wasted pennies" I spent getting to a good vape for me, because it was surely less than the cost of my smoking (and health aliments). Man up, just a bit. I quit with a smoker in the house, but at least he wasn't "at me" about vaping, nor would I have allowed that as a) we are both grownups and b) it was my money etc.
My husband is now vaping himself although he's still dual using. I wasn't expecting that, remotely, but who knows, your BF may end up walking in your footsteps... PROVIDED you get equipment you can actually use successfully etc.
Anna
If you have this problem, even with his equipment/same equipment, that would point to a difference in technique/style of vaping. I notice differences if I start to draw before pressing fire button, vs. warming coil before drawing.
As stated above, airflow makes a big difference. Do try to establish the WAY he is vaping his, as well as the build, settings etc.
EDIT--vapdivrr said essentially the same. Didn't read closely enough, but I will reiterate.
As stated above, airflow makes a big difference. Do try to establish the WAY he is vaping his, as well as the build, settings etc.
EDIT--vapdivrr said essentially the same. Didn't read closely enough, but I will reiterate.
You like a slightly cooler vape (lower voltage) but higher production density (why your longer draw) than your husband. You wonder why you can't have both. That can be accomplished in 30 seconds if you are rebuilding to your personal preference. You are the best judge of what you're tasting and perceiving.
Maybe a Nautilus and/or vertical coils are just not for you kaiami. Something that fires faster while producing better density might be the ticket. And you can always add more airflow to diffuse the vape if too rich. Perhaps @vapdivrr and @stols001 are on to something that you may have to alter your draw or perhaps increase power somewhat as well. This can be accomplished if you first find the place that suits you. You're the best judge of what you're tasting and perceiving. Doesn't matter what others think. And you then may find factory solutions that better resemble it.
This is one of the important reasons I've been teaching rebuilding for almost 5 years. There isn't any one product out of the gate that's going to fill every need. You may have to consider a single coil atomizer with a simple reliable coil to achieve the type of vapor stream you're seeking.
You need a baseline as above. Something you can reliably repeat with a predictable result. The vape that you want can be truly minutes away, every time. It requires consistent method. Good thing is you gals are far better at it than us fella's. So when you are the "expert" on finding your preference you can spec your partners next great vape. Or show him how to fish for himself.
If you wish, I can assist you @kaiami to find shortcut through most of the frustration. And it's not that difficult. Add your post on rebuilding to the Protank MicroCoil Discussion!! thread and I'll meet you there where we can focus on those questions.
Regardless, best of luck.
Sorry I wasn’t able to read everything you wrote. I have a brain injury (I’ve probably mentioned that but I can’t remember! ) so I have a super hard time comprehending/understated and really holding on to every word. I will continue to try and read it. He isn’t my bf, my hubby, but not sure how much longer that’s gonna be. So yeah. If you have any pointers or ideas and don’t mind, if you could post those separately I’d really appreciate it!! I will try my best to read it all, but my brain just sees a bunch of words and I start to panic, therefore not retaining or understanding any of it! I’m sorry!! I’ll keep trying! Thank you!
Get a new vape.
This one isn't working. Regardless of what the husband has to say, but I'd imagine this is far from your "first" vape, reading the title.
What other setups have you tried? Have you had success with any? If so, tell us about what worked, and maybe we can help you figure out a setup that might work. Possibly.
If no setups have ever worked for you, you may want to consider if vaping is for you, compared to something a bit more foolproof, that would work with your brain injury, like Swedish or American snus (it's kind of like dipping tobacco, but harm free, almost, the Swedish snus, anyway. Or you can buy nicotine pouches that you use like you would dipping tobacco only it's just the nicotine in the pouch, comes in various strengths and flavors. Burnie has a thread about them and sent me some to try. I quite liked them. So, you might need a different harm reduction method, is what I'm saying, if vaping hasn't been working etc.
Anna
This one isn't working. Regardless of what the husband has to say, but I'd imagine this is far from your "first" vape, reading the title.
What other setups have you tried? Have you had success with any? If so, tell us about what worked, and maybe we can help you figure out a setup that might work. Possibly.
If no setups have ever worked for you, you may want to consider if vaping is for you, compared to something a bit more foolproof, that would work with your brain injury, like Swedish or American snus (it's kind of like dipping tobacco, but harm free, almost, the Swedish snus, anyway. Or you can buy nicotine pouches that you use like you would dipping tobacco only it's just the nicotine in the pouch, comes in various strengths and flavors. Burnie has a thread about them and sent me some to try. I quite liked them. So, you might need a different harm reduction method, is what I'm saying, if vaping hasn't been working etc.
Anna
Sucking harder will draw the liquid from the tank through the wick to the coil and prevent the wick from burning which, in turn, would stop the burnt taste.
If this doesn't work then you need to close the airflow a little and try this again.
If this doesn't work then you need to close the airflow a little and try this again.
I've been vaping for about as long as you. And ever since i started i've been vaping in exactly the same way. I'll press the power button and suck for approximately 2 seconds, then inhale, then, with the button still pressed down i'll instantly take the second draw, again for about 2 seconds or so. I keep my airflow tight and i suck quite hard. You have to adapt to the device to make it work properly. It only works properly when the liquid is being drawn from the tank to the coil when you use it.
Leaving the airflow open to allow a loose draw when vaping will not suck the liquid through to the coil properly, or consistently enough, to prevent the wick from burning, no matter how hard you suck !.
A bit like sucking on a straw that has a big hole in the side of it, it won't draw the liquid up if there is a hole in it.
So you need to close the airflow on your atomizer so it's harder to suck on, then suck harder when vaping.
If the wick is burning in the way you describe, which it is, then clearly the liquid isn't getting sucked through to the coil and the existing liquid that remains in the coil will continue to burn the wick.
If none of this describes the problem you are experiencing, or provides a solution, then i have no idea what your problem is.
Going out on a limb, i'd say your brain indury has caused you to forget how to vape properly. If that is the case then another guess would be that you will continue to forget this. So......you need to tell your husband to remind you, to remind you regularly !.
Sorry to hear about your injury.
Leaving the airflow open to allow a loose draw when vaping will not suck the liquid through to the coil properly, or consistently enough, to prevent the wick from burning, no matter how hard you suck !.
A bit like sucking on a straw that has a big hole in the side of it, it won't draw the liquid up if there is a hole in it.
So you need to close the airflow on your atomizer so it's harder to suck on, then suck harder when vaping.
If the wick is burning in the way you describe, which it is, then clearly the liquid isn't getting sucked through to the coil and the existing liquid that remains in the coil will continue to burn the wick.
If none of this describes the problem you are experiencing, or provides a solution, then i have no idea what your problem is.
Going out on a limb, i'd say your brain indury has caused you to forget how to vape properly. If that is the case then another guess would be that you will continue to forget this. So......you need to tell your husband to remind you, to remind you regularly !.
Sorry to hear about your injury.
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I guess you missed @kaiami's responses on airflow (the same is the same kit her husband's using). Also her coil doesn't look like it's lacking for juice evan. Rather, cooking too much of it at a low voltage. That's why I differ on your suggestion. I don't think it will work. And given all this adding the complexity of more and different challenges in gear may not help much either.
A consistent unbroken draw adjustable by airflow with a proper build that generates the appropriate convection of fluid for the power the user prefers should be the goal. In this case perhaps too low for an externally wicked vertical which in my experience require more power for adequate production.
Being the natural skeptic that I am, however; I would probably seriously try your suggestion first.
Kaiami would benefit from getting control of her own vape. We all would. But I appreciate your concern, from someone with motor control issues too.
Good luck.
@kaiami ,
I feel like you need a completely different approach and set up. I honestly feel that @MacTechVpr might be on to something. I have trouble with smell due to injuries which affects taste somewhat. A larger tip (mouth piece) helps ME with that some. But theres no sub-ohm (tanks w/ prebuilt coils) that will compare to a rebuildable coil such as an RDA. I vaped for 18 months before trying an RDA because I believed it to be more difficult. It’s not at all and is actually enjoyable. It opens up the coil possibilities. To see if it's for you, you can purchase them already built for you. I’d be more than happy to help you if interested! Though, I’m sure MacTechVpr would be much more knowledgeable than I concerning this topic.
Responding in reference to your coil burning issue, I can only speak from my experience. Some of this has already been mentioned here. When I first started vaping I kept burning my coils with a full tank of juice. I was #1 taking fast harder pulls & #2 “speed vaping”, not allowing the coil time to soak in more juice. Later on in my vape journey I experienced burnt coils again. This time it was due to highly sweetened ejuice. Sweeteners and other additives can and will clog your coils. This is another fact which is more tolerable in rebuildable coils (RDA’s & such) opposed to prebuilt coils (sub-ohm tanks).
I do hope you try other possibilities before giving up and going back to cigarettes because you’re worth it and we’re ready and willing to help you!
Best of luck!
Natasha
(ECF: I am newer to RDA’s. So if I’ve stated something incorrectly, please correct me.)
I feel like you need a completely different approach and set up. I honestly feel that @MacTechVpr might be on to something. I have trouble with smell due to injuries which affects taste somewhat. A larger tip (mouth piece) helps ME with that some. But theres no sub-ohm (tanks w/ prebuilt coils) that will compare to a rebuildable coil such as an RDA. I vaped for 18 months before trying an RDA because I believed it to be more difficult. It’s not at all and is actually enjoyable. It opens up the coil possibilities. To see if it's for you, you can purchase them already built for you. I’d be more than happy to help you if interested! Though, I’m sure MacTechVpr would be much more knowledgeable than I concerning this topic.
Responding in reference to your coil burning issue, I can only speak from my experience. Some of this has already been mentioned here. When I first started vaping I kept burning my coils with a full tank of juice. I was #1 taking fast harder pulls & #2 “speed vaping”, not allowing the coil time to soak in more juice. Later on in my vape journey I experienced burnt coils again. This time it was due to highly sweetened ejuice. Sweeteners and other additives can and will clog your coils. This is another fact which is more tolerable in rebuildable coils (RDA’s & such) opposed to prebuilt coils (sub-ohm tanks).
I do hope you try other possibilities before giving up and going back to cigarettes because you’re worth it and we’re ready and willing to help you!
Best of luck!
Natasha
(ECF: I am newer to RDA’s. So if I’ve stated something incorrectly, please correct me.)
You're doing just dandy Nat.
If you do the above, you'll quickly start to scorch media, any media. As you do, less flow. Build up starts to quickly accrue on both wick and wire (not enough juice for the power, cooking). Sometimes it even cankers on the inside further reducing flow. In essence then you have your and @evan le'garde's proposition of way not enough flow. Seeing how quickly this happened, a good explanation of the scenario.
As counterintuitive as it may sound, I like drippers. Particularly single-coil RBA's for beginners. Then you can test the basic assumptions of temp and method to see what best fits. As much as I love tanks and quit on them they all have their own issues which can hinder us from finding out what we need. Rebuilding for good results necessarily implies building for the device. That can come later.
Good luck.
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Ordinarily, i suppose, it would be universally accepted that liquid "just flows" without the need for encouragement.
An example that illustrates to me that liquid doesn't always/consistently flow would be to watch how, when i'm making D.I.Y liquid using miniture funnels, the liquid just stops flowing through the spout. The spout only has about a 4mm inner diameter. I have to gently squeeze the bottle i'm trying to get the liquid into just to get the liquid to flow again, easy solution !. Doing this sends an airbubble to the top of the funnel through the liquid and the liquid then flows straight down. I have to consistently do this everytime the funnel gets full and close to spilling.
What i'm not saying is that e liquid "doesn't ever flow" on it's own. What i am saying is that e liquid simply "doesn't flow consistently enough for it to be left unchecked".
Sometimes, without notice, the e liquid in an atomizer will just stop flowing (just like in the funnel). A "vacuum" is the only way to keep it flowing "consistently".
An example that illustrates to me that liquid doesn't always/consistently flow would be to watch how, when i'm making D.I.Y liquid using miniture funnels, the liquid just stops flowing through the spout. The spout only has about a 4mm inner diameter. I have to gently squeeze the bottle i'm trying to get the liquid into just to get the liquid to flow again, easy solution !. Doing this sends an airbubble to the top of the funnel through the liquid and the liquid then flows straight down. I have to consistently do this everytime the funnel gets full and close to spilling.
What i'm not saying is that e liquid "doesn't ever flow" on it's own. What i am saying is that e liquid simply "doesn't flow consistently enough for it to be left unchecked".
Sometimes, without notice, the e liquid in an atomizer will just stop flowing (just like in the funnel). A "vacuum" is the only way to keep it flowing "consistently".
True that. Yet vacuum in tanks can be one of the most vexing problems when trying to isolate poss flow issues. Hard to predict as it varies constantly with viscosity, ambient press and temp as well as fill level. Every one of the darn tanks vary. Why I focused on using a single design (KST) for mainstreaming tests of Sup's microcoil and strain winding's practical application.
Full tank, primed, matched DT's and allowed to cool down to room temp for any side-by-side or comp to anything. Never vaped down below 50% cap or roughly to top of coil or RBA or the vacuum's deterrent to flow changes more noticeably, as you suggest. Then results go sideways altho still vapeable, just wetter. It's then quite easy to cook the vape, accelerate accretion. Especially if vaped hard or chained.
Enjoy the vape and good luck evan.
I'd like to revise my last post when i said "A "vacuum" is the only way to keep it flowing "consistently".
What i meant to say is "a respectable amount of negative pressure (sucking with a tight airflow) is the only way to keep it flowing "consistently".
I'm an idiot and i wasn't concentrating on what i was writing.
What i meant to say is "a respectable amount of negative pressure (sucking with a tight airflow) is the only way to keep it flowing "consistently".
I'm an idiot and i wasn't concentrating on what i was writing.
Anna I found you again and your posting here....I howled with laughter! Startled my dogs I laughed so hard had to come to see if I was ok
Geeez...hope I am posting this correctly with your quote. Always love your answers
Well I hope it's going better. At least if your vape isn't working, you got a howl of laughter out of it. LOL.
Frankly, I love it when the husband takes off his ring (usually to use power tools and etc) and I wander across it and next time I see him stare pointedly at his hands.... He reacts like a rat to a pellet.
Use all your skills at your disposal to get to a happy vape (or an enjoyable moment even!)is my motto. LOL, sometimes, I will admit, my family can find it tiresome. I don't, and I figure they have their own ways of "annoying me."
Anna
Frankly, I love it when the husband takes off his ring (usually to use power tools and etc) and I wander across it and next time I see him stare pointedly at his hands.... He reacts like a rat to a pellet.
Use all your skills at your disposal to get to a happy vape (or an enjoyable moment even!)is my motto. LOL, sometimes, I will admit, my family can find it tiresome. I don't, and I figure they have their own ways of "annoying me."
Anna
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