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You should try to attend the NorCal vapers meets.
Shadow,GrimmGreen, kaji, just to name a few, attended the last one. Not too far a drive for you...'bout 2 hours.
Now this is a great discussion! 
I mentioned that there were additional safeties in place previously.
Now, I had previously read through this thread you linked months ago and forgotten it!
I think that the additional mAh is negligible. However the AW cells have one major thing that I consider a definite benefit:
THe have a much sharper cutoff at the end of duty cycle.
I can not elaborate on why this is of benefit just yet, however I think once it is made clear you will agree.
I also believe that the cutoff activating as it does at 2.7V is a good thing.
That other cell does not initiate until 2.5V which I personally feel may be too close for comfort.
Sorry for the book, and thank you for talking about this here. I feel it is important. (as should you all)
- Shadow
I mentioned that there were additional safeties in place previously.
Now, I had previously read through this thread you linked months ago and forgotten it!
I think that the additional mAh is negligible. However the AW cells have one major thing that I consider a definite benefit:
THe have a much sharper cutoff at the end of duty cycle.
I can not elaborate on why this is of benefit just yet, however I think once it is made clear you will agree.
I also believe that the cutoff activating as it does at 2.7V is a good thing.
That other cell does not initiate until 2.5V which I personally feel may be too close for comfort.
Sorry for the book, and thank you for talking about this here. I feel it is important. (as should you all)
- Shadow
The transient is less than a millisecond.
Lesser cells fail in this aspect. UltraXXXX and TrustXXXX both have this failing in every test I have performed.
No threat should equal no cutoff. The others can not "see" the difference.
Now this is a great discussion!
I mentioned that there were additional safeties in place previously.
Now, I had previously read through this thread you linked months ago and forgotten it!
I think that the additional mAh is negligible. However the AW cells have one major thing that I consider a definite benefit:
THe have a much sharper cutoff at the end of duty cycle.
I can not elaborate on why this is of benefit just yet, however I think once it is made clear you will agree.
I also believe that the cutoff activating as it does at 2.7V is a good thing.
That other cell does not initiate until 2.5V which I personally feel may be too close for comfort.
Sorry for the book, and thank you for talking about this here. I feel it is important. (as should you all)
- Shadow
Agree- good discussion-I don't mind swapping batteries once a day so most of the time IMRs are a better choice, but i appreciate that for some it's a hasltle - I think the debate over which is better (Redilast or AW) will probably go on for a while over at CPF... at least till the 3100mAh panasonics are out.... fun to watch from the sidelines.... I'm sure you'll have a good explaination (you already hinted at surges) on the lower cuttoff introducing some risk.
Sorry if this is burried on page 3 somewhere...I'm sure you have a built in voltage cutoff in there...is it user programmable or are you pre-setting it? Or not ready to say just yet? ....
Thanks for this! 
Your explanation is pretty much as I thought but I wanted confirmation and to flush it out for others as well. I just do not have the technical knowledge to speak authoritatively on the subject (just a basic understanding that matches). Only prob with techno-speak is that it goes past many who may not ask for clarification. Thanks again.
Your explanation is pretty much as I thought but I wanted confirmation and to flush it out for others as well. I just do not have the technical knowledge to speak authoritatively on the subject (just a basic understanding that matches). Only prob with techno-speak is that it goes past many who may not ask for clarification. Thanks again.
Not at liberty to say just yet, but I am happy that there is discussion.
Don't worry about where it is buried, it's all up here now right?
Don't worry about where it is buried, it's all up here now right?
Ok, I'll give this a shot - since it's not the 17th yet
1. The Dominator
2. The Dominatrix
3. The Master
(OK, may have been a bit of a theme there-haha)
4. Vaporus Maximus
...and the best for last
5. The Omega - The Last PV You'll Ever Need
1. The Dominator
2. The Dominatrix
3. The Master
(OK, may have been a bit of a theme there-haha)
4. Vaporus Maximus
...and the best for last
5. The Omega - The Last PV You'll Ever Need
Ok, I'll give this a shot - since it's not the 17th yet
1. The Dominator
2. The Dominatrix
3. The Master
(OK, may have been a bit of a theme there-haha)
4. Vaporus Maximus
...and the best for last
5. The Omega - The Last PV You'll Ever Need
There is already a mod named Omega.
DOH!!! Oh well...
How about - The Omega's Omega - The Last PV You'll Ever Need...After Theirs Breaks!!!
i give nameing it a go
1. The Mac (like the the pc mac. )
2. The Mac Daddy (reffering to the first name just letting you know it's the boss at the same time)
3. Obhama (it's time for change)
4. The General (name sat's it all)
1. The Mac (like the the pc mac. )
2. The Mac Daddy (reffering to the first name just letting you know it's the boss at the same time)
3. Obhama (it's time for change)
4. The General (name sat's it all)
We crossed streams.... not sure why they even listed xxxxFire in the battery list .. . I guess some devices can only take them because of size issuess. Maybe OK with smaller batteries but people gotta understand you get what you pay for and 2 inches from your face isn't where you want to be skimping.
Not at liberty to say just yet, but I am happy that there is discussion.
Don't worry about where it is buried, it's all up here now right?
I'll take that as an invite to suggest that you have it user configurable... maybe protected, but different batteries will be able to support different cutoffs for different batteries - i.e. maybe 2.6 or 2.7 for protected, 2.6 for IMR and ... what if we start seeing LiFePO4's in 18650's from the top tier cell companies? 2.2 (will your circuit even run on that) ?
just a suggestion-
I was considering this, however, what if a user has it on the incorrect setting by accident? Bad news.
Some things need to be made certain. One is to err on the side of caution.
While I realize that I have no control of the device once it leaves me, I am trying to make it as versatile yet SAFE as possible.
Some things need to be made certain. One is to err on the side of caution.
While I realize that I have no control of the device once it leaves me, I am trying to make it as versatile yet SAFE as possible.
That's what I meant by making it protected....You could make it difficult to set, and reset to 2.7 when the battery is removed or the threshold is reached .....
Just hit me - other hand... what if the user set it for 2.0 thinking it was 2.2... well with an IMR or LiFePO4, you just ruined the battery - it'll sit in the charger ...with a protected battery, if the protection is broken, i see your concern- tough call... "Set at your own risk, Not responsible for your fat fingers"?
again just a thought ... glad to be discussing it, glad to see you thought of it already, and respect the need to keep it safe - not that big a deal as we don't have suitable LiFePO4s and you're not giving up that much on the IMRs at the bottom of the curve if you set it up for protected cells...
I just gotta add this to my name list as I see people guessing 4 names, or I'd be willing to swap out one of my three, The Tesla...
SHADOW'S NAME CONTEST
4. or Replace The Tesla - THE SHADOW BOX
SHADOW'S NAME CONTEST
4. or Replace The Tesla - THE SHADOW BOX
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I am going to have to disallow this change.
Your entry of "The Tesla" was one of my personal favorites!
However I will enter is as a non-eligible name entry.
You are all great. I must be tired, I am getting all warm and fuzzy from lack of sleep and constant work....
Your entry of "The Tesla" was one of my personal favorites!
However I will enter is as a non-eligible name entry.
You are all great. I must be tired, I am getting all warm and fuzzy from lack of sleep and constant work....
I just gotta add this to my name list as I see people guessing 4 names, or I'd be willing to swap out one of my three, The Tesla...
SHADOW'S NAME CONTEST
4. or Replace The Tesla - THE SHADOW BOX
I am going to have to disallow this change.
Your entry of "The Tesla" was one of my personal favorites!
However I will enter is as a non-eligible name entry.
You are all great. I must be tired, I am getting all warm and fuzzy from lack of sleep and constant work....
Yeah, but WE LIKE YOU "all warm and fuzzy" don't ya know that Shadow?
O.k., I agree I LOVE the name THE TESLA and the MAN who it's named after, too!!!
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