Introducing Futura - The Modular DNA 20 APV by NexgenVapor[ISSUE]

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bilboda

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You can see the black Evic peeking over the re Tmax. Vamos' SVD, Zmax, Zmax mini (18500), a 14500 mod, twist , spinner, Vmod XL, VTR.... you get the picture.
 

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I can get the aspire on with no issue....tried both my center pins and I can't get a flush fit.....I was very excited about this mod....but not so much anymore....the wattage change button seems too sensitive to me and I find myself changing wattage just firing it.....seems inconveniently located. This might be in the classifieds by the weekend.

I'm sorry to hear that, i was really hoping for another American made mod to step up to the plate and make a decent device. It's looking more and more like I may wait until the ZNA comes out.
 

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Thanks for the suggestion, Entering stealth mode now. You first enter locked mode hitting the fire button 5x fast and then stealth mode by holding down the fire and down button for 5 secs.. The device is locked. You can't vape. Press the button 5 x fast and you are still in stealth mode but you can vape!
 

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hey guys just received the futura and like others have mentioned the 510 threads are very rough. at the moment I can only screw in my wifes vivi nova atty. all my rebuildables will not screw in! I have about a dozen attys, from genesis to kayfuns and no luck. the issue seems to be the depth of the threads, they just aren't quite deep enough. I know with a little patience they will smooth out and eventually should work. I have been slightly threading and un threading my kayfun for about 15 minutes and have gotton half way down, maybe a little more. every few times I get a tooth brush and brush out the threads, this removes the burrs. this screwing & unscrewing is not damaging the threads its just getting in there and smoothing everything out. I guess this wasn't done prior to shipping. also mine arrived with a positive pin installed which is nothing more then a screw and the head of the screw is quite thick, even with this screwed all the way down it is still to high for the vivi to sit flush. I have unscrewed this pin and installed a second pin which was included. this pin has an allen head for adjusting which wasn't included. I imagine that this is the pin that most will use. I just don't like the fact that this pin is allen key, it is quite small and doesn't have much meat between the depression and the edge of screw. if this pin were to round out it would be very difficult to adjust. did someone else say theirs came with 2 other positive pins besides the screw pin that was installed? so far I haven't tried to vape anything so I cannot comment yet. it is very light because of its composition and looks and feels nice.
 

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510 Threads solved. You may be able to do this with any well made atty but I have an AGT that is titanium. Titanium is harder than steel. So my theory is that the 510 threads on the AGT are titanium too. Maybe, maybe not. Screw in till it's tight, back out, screw in a bit more the before, rinse and repeat. Now my 91% threads right on no problems. And it's within a mm or 2 of flush and I imagine I could make it flush cause the skinny center pin could be tightened just a bit more but I'm fine like this.

There are only 2 pins, skinny and a screw. I use a T5 bit to tighten down the skinny screw. I will not be adjusting this much at all. It should last.
 
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well after an hour or so its all sorted. all attys now screw on smoothly and have no issues. so if your mod comes in very very burry you just need to take a little time and screw & unscrew until all the burrs are broken down and smoothed out. I was thinking of the water rinse like bilboda mentioned but just used a brush to brush out the burrs and also used the corner of a towel to get in there and wipe out. I started with an atty that was just a little tight, and worked until smooth then moved to a tighter atty and repeated. I finished up with the aqua tank which was definitely the tightest and continued to work the burrs. initially when I tried the aqua tank I thought there was no way that this was going to thread, I mean it was tight and could barely thread on at all, but in the end its all good. just surprised that the threads were this burred to begin with, I have had attys and mods that had slight burrs and needed to be smoothed out but this was the worst by far. hopefully all are not like this but if they are its really not that big of a deal, they will eventually work, its just going to take an hour of playing around. well besides this im really liking the device so far, its definitely kicking some .....
 

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510 Threads solved. You may be able to do this with any well made atty but I have an AGT that is titanium. Titanium is harder than steel. So my theory is that the 510 threads on the AGT are titanium too. Maybe, maybe not. Screw in till it's tight, back out, screw in a bit more the before, rinse and repeat. Now my 91% threads right on no problems. And it's within a mm or 2 of flush and I imagine I could make it flush cause the skinny center pin could be tightened just a bit more but I'm fine like this.

There are only 2 pins, skinny and a screw. I use a T5 bit to tighten down the skinny screw. I will not be adjusting this much at all. It should last.

gotcha on the 2 pins. I used a 1.5mm allen on mine which seemed pretty tight but may not be the exact proper size because its metric. before I installed the skinny I added a little noalox on it just to keep it lubbed. to keep most of my attys on it flush this skinny had to be pretty much all the way down, before doing this I did the same thing as I did with the 510 threads, I kind of tightened & untightened a few times just to make it not so forced, and with the noalox im confident that this pin will have no issues when adjusting.
 

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This 510 thread issue really has me concerned. Especially since both people who received their devices have the same problem. Have either of you emailed Jon about the condition of the threads? At $240 and up, I expect whatever 510 atty/carto that I attach to fire out of the box (except for pin adjustment) without having to mod my new mod. Isn't this something that should have been caught when they do final quality check as they are putting the devices together for shipping?

I am happy to see you were able to improve the threading but if you were able to deepen the threads, isn't there a good chance that as you use it, the threads will continue to change and eventually not line up at all? Especially since the threads will be getting a lot of use everyday. I typically screw/unscrew my cartos 8-10x a day. The threads really get a workout.

Surely once Jon is made aware of the issue he will offer a solution. I am also curious to see if Phil B. has the same problem when he does his review and see if he offers a solution.
 

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Yeah but the threading, though a pain, seems rectifiable with an hour or so's work. "Rocker switch" issues, on the other hand, would be a trickier fix. Don't get me wrong, everything being perfect would be ideal but I'm curious about this mysterious switch. Is it a sensor like the button on the wizard's apprentice? Perhaps dialing in the watts you dig then locking it is a good solution.
 

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Agreed that working in the 510 thread is not a deal breaker, however a bad rocker switch would be much worse. I'm hoping that its just a rocker on top of clickable buttons similar to the way that the old iPhone 3 volume rocker used to be before they separated them into 2 buttons.

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anything more complex than that could cause issues.
 

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Agreed that working in the 510 thread is not a deal breaker, however a bad rocker switch would be much worse. I'm hoping that its just a rocker on top of clickable buttons similar to the way that the old iPhone 3 volume rocker used to be before they separated them into 2 buttons.

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anything more complex than that could cause issues.

It's a rocker style switch.
 

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i dont know about you guys but when i pay a premium price for a mod and in my case 2 mods i expect it to be perfect hell other wise i should buy a mod from china if i have to .... with it and if i dont want to i could get another provari but b4 jon sends out any more mods i hope and pray he takes a look at them and gets things right like i said in my previous post its all about customer support lets sit back and watch him work his magic
 
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