Introducing myself, probably babbling for a second, and asking questions

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Slipstitch

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Hi! I'm not entirely new to e-cigs(though only recently got one that wasn't a mini cigarette style one) but I'm pretty new to a lot of things involved with devising your own anything with them. I recently(two weeks ago) switched from cigarettes to an Ego style battery, loaded up on flavors, and quickly got addicted to having fresh tanks for each flavor(after my roommates experience with putting skittles in the tank after having peanut butter in it, I'm a little paranoid). Unfortunately I find that a lot of flavors I like the taste of but some of them are kind of harsh... Like spend the next five minutes drinking water because your throat is completely dry all of a sudden harsh. I find this tends to be more of a problem with the mixes that have a higher vg content, though I'm not entirely certain at all that that's actually the problem(I've only tested at a couple of different stores). So I started researching to see how possible it might be for me to try mixing my own flavors and not only got a ton of information but found my way here. Ta daa!

Mostly I'm curious about how/where to find things to use as a flavor, whether or not PG or VG can be bought at local stores of some kind, and well... Whatever else I can manage to learn. I think mods are nifty, but I'm pretty happy with my ego batteries(I do have a spinner one, though it stays at 3.65 as I've found that to be the best place for it so I guess that may have been a silly purchase) though if I ever find one that hits my geek button hard enough, I'll buy it. I don't trust myself with making electronic anything, though. I'm fairly familiar with handling of hazardous materials but when it comes to things involving electricity, well... Let's just say I can't be trusted with a soldering iron(everything that can be soldered will be(which is why I'm not allowed to help build computers)).

Also, I am curious about these liquids I found at a smoke shop near me. They're apparently meant to flavor tobacco, but I'm curious if they can be used as flavoring when mixing up your own liquids. I'm not entirely certain I would want to try it, but if they turn out to be useful... Well, they're $1 each, so they could be interesting. Assuming they aren't death in a bottle of course, lol. And yes, I tried google. Apparently my Google Fu failed me there.

I did also read up on testing nicotine content, so that'll be a fun little science experiment all of it's own, but can you do it with flavored juices or only the unflavored base? I doubt I'd be able to test some of my flavors that I already have as they're particularly dark in color... But looking for more info on that. Mostly on accuracy and whether or not the chemicals would react to the flavorings or what have you.

I'm quite certain that I'll have a good number of questions later on before I attempt testing the actual theory, but for now this is what's immediately stuck in my brain. Thank you ^_^
 

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You can change the flavor of your juice by adding flavor to it or by adding another juice to it. Testing nicotine content, I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean make your own mg/ml? If so then yes you can do it with flavors used along side a pg/vg base. Not certain what chemicals your referring to that would react to flavorings? If it's nicotine I have not found any problems. Good Luck. Glad you joined us and by all means ask away! Happy Vaping! :vapor:
 

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You probably read about the little titration test kits. I believe that some flavors will skew the results. It has to do with acidity, iirc, because the titration test includes an acid indicator (it's been a while since I've done this, so I hope I am remembering correctly). If you test your nic base (the concentrated nic you buy to make your flavored liquids) and do your math and measuring carefully you should be reasonably confident that your liquids are close to what you design them to be.

There are many calculators you can download and use to formulate your recipes. These will allow you to make liquids with a known nic concentration and flavor mixtures than you can replicate in future mixes (rather than just trying to remember 'some drops of this and some drops of that'. Check out the DIY sub forum here, I believe it's a sub forum in the general ejuice forum.
 

Slipstitch

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Thank you Spazmelda! That's exactly what I was talking about ^_^ I did see some threads here regarding testing nicotine content due to some vendor selling inaccurate supplies so now I'm all curious about whether or not my favorite shop here is as awesome as they seem and if the nicotine liquid I've been looking at buying would end up being a second purchase.
 

Slipstitch

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Thank you ^_^

Idk about the mod idea though. My teacher has one and it's nifty, but until they come out with one that fits into my sci fi geekery or I stop being untrustworthy with electronics I doubt it'll happen any time soon. I did see one I liked, but I don't -need- it(it was my favorite color, lol).

Edit: Find me a mod shaped like an Alien head or a face hugger and I'll rock that
 

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There was one company that had a pretty serious problem with nicotine levels (as I recall, they were about 2.5-3x more concentrated than they should have been for one or more lot numbers). I don't know if they are even selling nicotine anymore. Box Elder was the name of the company. As a result of that, I believe most of the well respected companies that are recommended on ECF test their nicotine fairly thoroughly, and some will even post their analysis certificates online. Wizard Labs and RTS Vapes are often recommended here and I've made purchases with both of them and never had problems. I believe that Wizard Labs also supplies nicotine to J&J, and gets surprise inspections by the FDA occasionally.

I've got a titration kit, but I haven't used it in a long time. I'd have to go dig out the instructions again to even give it a try. I recall it being fairly easy to use. It doesn't give the most accurate results, so anything around +/- 10 mg/ml of label is considered good (iirc).
 

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Hey Slipstitch, there are 510 adaptors around, relatively cheap too I believe.
Unable to link you to such an instance at the moment, but i'm sure by the time I can someone else will have already done so.

Edit: http://www.vapeescape.co.uk/Vaping-Spares/Accessories/Adapters.html

there you go, UK Site though, but just so you can see they exist..
 
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Awesome! Thank you very much! ^_^ At the very least, now I'll know what to search for. I find the biggest problem I have with finding things is not knowing exactly what they're called.

Edit: Do you know what the thread type is on the pipe mod?

Not a clue I'm afraid, have no idea what the pipe mod is in honesty lol.

Someone will know though I'm sure.

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Slipstitch

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I actually just found out there are a ton of different kinds of them, so yay for that? This is the kind that I have(though not purchased from this site(I will totally purchase from this site)): $19.04 E-Pipe Mechanical Mod - chromed brass / with delrin insulator at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

I have that, a spinner ego type, and a plain 1100mah ego.

Unfortunately, now I've spent the last few hours scouring this forum and have even MORE questions... Such as what is this EM stuff they talk about in the diy juice parts? How good of an idea is it to use water? Can you rebuild those coils they sell for the evod, kanger, t3s and such? Is it worth it?

I'm quite certain more are to happen... Probably tomorrow when I spend my next work shift surfing the forum.
 

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EM is ethyl malitol (I may not have spelled that right, spell checker tells me it should be ethyl marital, but I know that's not right). It's a sweetener.

Use water in your liquid? A little is okay, but too much kills vapor. Some sort of purified water would be preferable to out of the tap. I thin my liquids with a little bit of vodka.

You can rebuild evod, and protank. Probably T3, but not sure about that. I think it's worth it, but opinions vary. You can have new coils for pennies, but it depends on how much you value your time and/or like tinkering with stuff. One thing you'd need is either a multimeter or a battery set up that can measure the ohms of your coil. See, you will have to buy a new ecig. Lol.
 

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I actually just found out there are a ton of different kinds of them, so yay for that? This is the kind that I have(though not purchased from this site(I will totally purchase from this site)): $19.04 E-Pipe Mechanical Mod - chromed brass / with delrin insulator at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

I have that, a spinner ego type, and a plain 1100mah ego.

Unfortunately, now I've spent the last few hours scouring this forum and have even MORE questions... Such as what is this EM stuff they talk about in the diy juice parts? How good of an idea is it to use water? Can you rebuild those coils they sell for the evod, kanger, t3s and such? Is it worth it?

I'm quite certain more are to happen... Probably tomorrow when I spend my next work shift surfing the forum.

Thread type on the site lists it as 510, so you'd need a 510 to Ego adapter I believe, I've been wrong before though.

Rebuilding coils I can answer better, as mentioned above it really depends on your propensity for tinkering.

I love nothing more than taking things apart and rebuilding, everytime I've recoiled a head though it's gone horribly wrong so I've given up at the moment and find it easier to just purchase replacements and a T3 coil can be rebuilt. Worth a try and see how you get on but again as stated above you would need a device to read the coil resistance on any you rebuild, just feel safe in the knowledge that if you struggle as I did, they can be bought.



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