Introducing the E1 ReLOaD™ Replaceable 2.0ml 2.4ohm eGo Clearomizer in Clear and Sage Green

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What everyone seems to be overlooking is the amount of lead time needed from the time an order is placed until it is finally shipped and received. I know GotVape's will do their best to address this issue for everyone affected, but they can't help what the amount of lead time that is needed to do that... lead time is only in the hands of the manufacturer and can only be addressed by the factory, not GV.

If I recall correctly, it was nearly a month or more from the first time I remember that GV mentioned they were getting these until the time they finally were able to put them up onsite. As long as the factory isn't having to retool for another version/update, it will likely take the same amount of time before their next order of components come in unless GV had multiple orders placed at the same time as the original.
 

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This will be my last post on this issue. My problem is not with the fact that they do not have the product. My issue is what it took to finally get that response. I am not going to go over the history again and both Dan and Chris can review the tickets to see the gaps in response. I felt like my situation was not very important and from what I understand from others with this coil issue, GV already knew they did not have the coils. Why not just tell me that up front?

Well I did a ticket after reading this thread about the stems and I received a fast response from Dan, and we have reached a mutual agreement on a solution. Problem solved here!!! Maybe its just the approach you might have used. Just saying....
 

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..............:)

My thoughts as well...


I got my first E1's in this morning.... I ordered 4 ( 2 of each color ) so I could rotate them ( use one while cleaning another )

I ordered them for use on my Mini eGo's that I had got a little while back and it looks like these will be very nice for that use. I do like the looks more than those of the Mini Vivi Nova's and the flavor I get is a little better as well.

I have been testing two primarily using my AmiGo VV dongle passthru.... On the first, I left it as it came and the second one, I removed the extra wick that was placed over the coils. On the first, I found that at 3v, it vapes just fine but when I move up to 3.6v it started to almost give a dry hit. I switched to the second one that I removed the extra wick from... and it vapes just fine at 3.6v but going up to 4.2v I do start getting a dry hit again. Interesting though, is that when I vape either one on the Mini eGo's, I don't get a dry hit even when they are fully charged. I did try these on my Kicked up Bolt but I didn't want to adjust the wattage down ( since it is set perfect for my Hyper SRT already )... and I did start getting burnt hits fairly quickly.

Based on just those two test units ( not a good way to make a definitive judgement really )... I'd say these are made for lower voltages and still be able to provide good taste and vapor. Only time will tell me if these will continue to work well for my desired use... but so far they are working great.

I'm also pretty happy with the included drip tips. For the price of the carto, I've got a drip tip that would have cost about the same money, so even if the carto's don't work out for me... I'm still ahead of the game.
 

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We aren't "fanboys"... Calling us names, seem to indicate you may just be trolling trying to stir up bad feelings because you were not given instant satisfaction. We aren't that unrealistic and can understand that there are times that an immediate response is not possible....

GotVape's has shown time and again that they will stand behind their products and we do recognize that fact which has been proven over and over. I also show the same respect towards several other vendors that I use... and I would stand up for those vendors as much as I do for GotVapes. Standing up for a good vendor such as GotVapes, does not make that person a fanboy, it just shows that they are more mature than others that constantly complain even after they were given a proper answer to their initial issue.

I will always show my disappointment with the selfish users that show no patience for a good vendor to address an issue...
 

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Looks like I irritated the fanboys. :)

Glad to hear you got a fast response poppabear.

No I don't think it was that.

I just think some people got tired of reading Post after Post about your Problem.

I feel Sorry for you. This seems to have Really Hit you Hard. If I had a Coil to send you I would. But I don't. And Neither does gotvapes or they would have.
 

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Two days is all you are talking about? :confused: That's what you call "left hanging"?

I did tickets for a bit for GV, and I can tell you first-hand how much work it is. In fact I couldn't handle it because of health issues. Dan works 20 hours a day - frequently. Recently there's been lots of new orders coming in, lots of new pages to put up, etc, etc. GV is not a big corporation where they have lots of employees dedicated just to answering tickets...

Honestly, two a three days wait to get an answer for a ticket is not what I would call "left hanging"... I've had plenty of times where I got an answer from other vendors, e-cig and otherwise, within three days or so, and to me it's a perfectly reasonable turn-around time for a small business where you basically have two people working full-time...

I am sorry this irritated you, but, no offense, I thought you waited, like, two weeks or something. That would have a been a cause for complaint. Two or three days isn't, I think.

The goal is always to answer the tickets ASAP - and the guys try really hard to do that along with all the other stuff they do, you have my word on that. Dan and Chris are humans, not machines. A little kindness and understanding isn't going to hurt you any. And, btw, though I consider myself a "fan-girl" in a sense that I am a fan of GV, I neither consider this a derogatory term, nor is my affection for Dan and Chris affects my sense of judgement. I would approach *any* small business with kindness and understanding.

I honestly don't understand why this bothers you so much. You were offered a refund. They can't help that they don't have the correct stems right now - I'm sure they ordered them. When they get here, you'll be able to get them, just like the rest of us.

Dan and Chris showed on many occasions, and in any number of ways, that they care about their customers a great deal. If there are times when the tickets are not answered instantaneously, or there is a problem with a product, it pays to remember that they are human, and, frankly, their personal and caring attitude as well as the variety of products they bring us is more than worth it. In my opinion.

I allowed sufficient time for a response and even received a couple in a very timely manner. Only to have the issue dropped for days. I went through the proper channels. I submitted a very nicely worded ticket and got a response in minutes. I sent the required info and was left hanging for two days. So I used their suggestion of coming to this forum to try for a resolution. I was again responded to almost immediately and told that I would have an answer in an hour. Over a day later I still had no answer.

If you are not going to do something then you shouldn't tell someone you will. That is the root of my issue. I know they have a few tickets to resolve and a RL, but if that is the case do not tell me you are going to resolve something for me in an hour when you can't. Plain and simple.

I am not trolling and if you look at my posts in other areas of this fourm you will see that I am trying to be as helpful as possible. I just can't stand poor customer service.

My level of maturity is not the issue here. If that were the case then your maturity level should also be in question due to the smileys and posts when I decided, like a grown up, to let the issue drop.
 

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Oh, I am not arguing with your point here... Maybe you are right. All I am saying is that they look very similar, so probably there was no reason to red flag them just by looking at them. When I got mine, it didn't even occur to me that they were not the right ones - I didn't figure it out until I took it out and had this next to the unit.

I'd have to humbly disagree with you there Briar. We're talking orders of 50 to upwards of hundreds of units. We've had other discussions about the generally abysmal levels of quality control coming out of China in general and the e-cig industry in particular. Knowing that, I think it's more than reasonable to expect that Gotvapes would have, when they received and inventoried their shipment, to have opened one of these and tried to screw it on. 5 minutes would have saved a multitude of time, botched orders, frustrated customers, and money. That money is either lost directly by the customer, lost indirectly through rising prices, or swallowed by Gotvapes. High cost to pay for something that could have been prevented by 5 minutes of quality assurance. Incidents like these take their toll on Gotvapes. They will survive, for sure, due to their loyal following and those who are more forgiving, but there are also plenty who silently take their business elsewhere.
 

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One other thought...

In general, I find that the "fanboy" terminology is beginning to irritate me a great deal. It's what I call "labelism". The way it works is that one applies a label to a person (doesn't have to be derogatory, even), and then uses that as an excuse to dismiss that person's opinion.

Just because someone may be fond of a particular vendor doesn't mean that this person's opinion is solely based on that fondness...

I realize that there are folks out there that will defend their favorite vendors to the death, even when it's irrational - though, frankly, I haven't seen much of that here - but, on the other hand, the term is very often used by people who want to criticize whether criticism is reasonable or not, and don't want to hear any opinion to the contrary. It's best not to label people, and take each opinion on it's own merits. IMO.
 
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One other thought...

In general, I find that the "fanboy" terminology is beginning to irritate me a great deal. It's what I call "labelism". The way it works is that one applies a label to a person (doesn't have to be derogatory, even), and then uses that as an excuse to dismiss that person's opinion.

Just because someone may be fond of a particular vendor doesn't mean that this person's opinion is solely based on that fondness exclusively...

I realize that there are folks out there that will defend their favorite vendors to the death, even when it's irrational - though, frankly, I haven't seen much of that here - but, on the other hand, the term is very often used by people who want to criticize whether criticism is reasonable or not, and don't want to hear any opinion to the contrary. It's best not to label people, and take each opinion on it's own merits. IMO.

I wouldn't call anyone a fan boy/girl for liking their favorite vendor, and to tell the truth GV is on my top three for vendors. They are always bringing new products in, letting us get our hands on the best stuff out there, and of course they care about their customers very much. I have always had any issues taken care of when I followed the proper route. And if you question whether they care or not just face this fact. they could have told us we will refund the 3 dollars a raven to you but the tanks are yours.. Instead they decided to give everyone a refund and let us keep the tanks.
 

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On a different note - talking about the actual doohickey here :D - I had trouble with the E1 leaking out the bottom seal. I have three of them, and all three were doing it.

Well, someone mentioned using the seal from the Stardust... Worked like a charm. I stuck the seal from a Stardust mouthpiece right on top of the E1's bottom seal, and no more leak. I am now officially very fond of this clearo. The flavor is really, really good, no wicking problems, and I actually found it fairly forgiving (for me) as far as voltage goes. It did good from 3.2 to 4.0 - that's pretty much the range I vape in. Not for higher temps though - it totally freaked out at 4.2.
 

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Briar...

I had a slight leak through the bottom tube seal as well on one of mine.. not even enough for a drip yet but still there. I was able to tighten it down a bit more by using a metal ruler in the air vents found on the bottom of the carto... From the description of what you posted and my small experience ( of once lol )... perhaps they need a slightly larger o-ring so it doesn't take as much to tighten it down. It looks like they have just barely enough and after the o-ring compresses a bit, it starts to leak. ( maybe )
 

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Oh, thanks for the idea - that's a good way to both tighten it and un-tighten it. :)

Still, I don't like forcing things that much - last time I really made an effort to tighten it up, I thought I heard the tube creaking. lol

I think you are right, too - the gaskets aren't quite large enough. Mine were all in place, and didn't look damaged in any way. They should probably make them a bit larger. Well, at least after the "Stardust gasket mod", it doesn't leak at all anymore, so I'm happy with it. I really like the flavor.

Briar...

I had a slight leak through the bottom tube seal as well on one of mine.. not even enough for a drip yet but still there. I was able to tighten it down a bit more by using a metal ruler in the air vents found on the bottom of the carto... From the description of what you posted and my small experience ( of once lol )... perhaps they need a slightly larger o-ring so it doesn't take as much to tighten it down. It looks like they have just barely enough and after the o-ring compresses a bit, it starts to leak. ( maybe )
 

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I ordered 2. One had no o ring and one did, they both leaked from bottom screw joint.
I used the stardust o rings on both. Left the o ring that came with it on there, so I had 2 o rings on 1.
So far no leaking at all. They seem to have an airy draw, but the TH and vapor is good. I'm liking them so far.
 
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