Is it safe to buy EM atomizers again?

[tobarger]

I'm returning a bunch of bogus LR atomizers to some other supplier in China.
Took two weeks to get them and find out that now I really need atomizers.
What a PITA.
I'm afraid to buy atomizers.

 

[harpo]

Not sure which ones you want but the LR510s are still out of stock.

 

[NormC]

Not sure which ones you want but the LR510s are still out of stock.

I'm SERIOUSLY wondering if they'll EVER be in stock again. It's been a long time!

 

[FadenQ]

And we’re actually hoping for LR-EM5s from the good old days (two orders ago)! Oh the memories...

 

[Di]

David is seriously working on getting the -- "OLD " EM LR 510 attys back into production,

we will announce as soon as they are available.


The work is progressing well, and testing is good,

we want to be absolutely sure they are perfect for you before we release them,

We Both agree that good is more important than fast for this product -------

so another week or so and it should be good to go

we are looking at a particular bridge measurement and a good ohm, -- 1.5 I think it is -----

but I will keep you updated as we go along -- it will not be long now --------

 

[tobarger]

Di
The center hole size at the battery end of the atomizer needs to go back to the "old LR-EM5" specification.
The new ones had a smaller hole which prevented them from being used on many juice feed devices.

 

[Di]

well, i think you will find that was a sheer co-incidence,
as the EM LR5 was not designed to fit to a juice feeder -
so I guess it was a lucky co-incidence that it did fit and work with some of them.

 

[tobarger]

Di
I hear you talking, but I can't figure out what your saying.
Are you trying say that the holes on the new and improved EM LR5s will be too small to use with some juice feeders without actually saying it?

 

[skish]

Di
I hear you talking, but I can't figure out what your saying.
Are you trying say that the holes on the new and improved EM LR5s will be too small to use with some juice feeders without actually saying it?

If I'm interpreting it correctly tobarger, she's saying… There's no implied guarantee that any future atomizer sold by EM will accommodate a bottom juice feeding system.

Moreover, it looks like it was just “sheer-coincidence” that they once sold LR and regular 510 atomizers having the same hole specification as all the other brands on the market. And unlike the LR and regular 510s, it’s just a “sheer-coincidence” that their current stock of HV-510s, LR-306s, LR-901s, regular 901s, LR-801s and regular 801s have no problems accommodating a bottom feeding system.

I find it interesting that the makers of these juice feeding systems conformed to the standard hole specification produced by ALL vendors but now she’s claiming the LR and regular atomizers were not designed for juice feeders. This response doesn’t seem to bode very well for bottom juice feeding systems and any future expectations from EM.

Even though bottom juice feeders have become more popular these days, maybe EM simply views them as a niche market and doesn't wish to cater to their/our needs. So rather than hoping for the best only to get disappointed, you may want to take your business elsewhere; there are plenty of other vendors willing and able to accommodate the needs of bottom juice feeders.

 

[BartS]

Aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh here we go again. What came first, the chicken or the egg? Was the juice feeder designed to fit the atomiser or was the atomiser designed to fit the juice feeder?

Lets design a juice feeder that fits the most atomisers out there, and if a vendor then dares change his atomiser we threaten to take away our business.

​

 

[Di]

OK




what I am saying is


EXACTLY THIS


Eastmall designed an attomizer

we diesugned it to fit to an 510 fitting

we did not take any other product or vendors product into consideration when we designed and built it.

***** when you buy a pair of Black shoes from Versaci -- they look good -
they work good, and thats what they were designed to do ------
the fact that these versaci shoes look good with several other sellers pants is not what versaci had in mind when they designed these shoes-
it is a happy co-incidence -------------------

that is all I am saying ------

I am not saying that the atty will not fit to any other vendors products,
I am not saying it will,,

I am saying ---- this is not our foremost consideration when we are designing it.

 

[tobarger]

Good one Di, comparing atomizer design to FASHION.
Ever think about getting into politics?
Why would EM change anything about the original design of the LR-EM5?
If its not broke why fix it?
The hole size was not even an issue until EM took a wonderful product with a multitude of loyal (to the point of being more than willing to spend $17 for shipping and wait weeks for them) consumers and changed everything about it that made it good.

P.S.
Sorry to hear that some of your Versaci shoes might not look good with all of your designer outfits.
At least something was clarified here!!!

 

[Di]

Ha ha ha

I love a person with a smart mouth and a funny personality -----


for those who missed it ---


by using this analogy -- I was trying to point out that


Eastmall developed and designed their atty to fit their own devices,
not other peoples,

and if they fit well to others,

well it was a happy co-incidence -----



when they come back


if they fit to others devices,

it will be

once more


a happy co-incidence --------------




PS -- I actually wear Diana Ferari, lol.

 

[Di]

I am just trying to make it so it matches my lounging and vaping outfit ------

just not quite ready yet, the top is a bit too big for my taste,
and the bottom needs a little more adjustment --

but the satisfaction level looks to be coming along just fine ------- mmmmmm -----

 

[tobarger]

Thanks Di
Once again you've proven that your "valued customers" are not going to learn anything worthwhile about the quality or functionality of EM products by reading your posts.
I might really be into fashion myself, if I wasn't so busy trying to figure out if I can buy an atomizer from your company without getting screwed.
If I ever need any fashion tips I know who to ask.
Anything else, not so much.

The situation would be very funny, if it wasn't quite so pathetic.

!!! Good Day Sir !!!

 

[Di]

Aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh here we go again. What came first, the chicken or the egg? Was the juice feeder designed to fit the atomiser or was the atomiser designed to fit the juice feeder?

Lets design a juice feeder that fits the most atomisers out there, and if a vendor then dares change his atomiser we threaten to take away our business.

​

@ Gerry ------ and DSK --------

Of Product Design ------

To achieve the ultimate in product satisfaction,
One has to apply several techniques,
The look of the product must be pleasing of course,
But the attention to the little details is soo very important
in order to achieve the full gratification from the product –

manual stimulation is the first thing,
this must be skilfully designed, and applied gently to the product
in order for it to respond pleasingly to the touch,
this must be closely followed by the absolutely essential oral stimulation
which we all crave from our product,
after all, - we are all still addicted to some extent –
the maual dexterity and oral stimuli must be skilfully applied,
and must follow and flow smoothly
from the first gentle, tentative touch to our lips,
to the last hard rough draw, deep into our mouths,
in order to achieve the correct gratification
which will culminate in the ultimate vaping experience
and explosive throat hit which we all crave ----
If this is correctly achieved,
We can lay down our product with a great sigh of satisfaction,
And look forward to the next time we eagerly reach for it in anticipation -------


NB --- the above mentioned product is still in production, --
still being tested -
on the drawing board ! -- on the desk, ! -- on the --- Oh, never mind !!!! lol .
hahahahahahahaha ---------- 8-o

 

[Di]

If you bother to read the answers

you will see I have told you that David is working very hard to bring back the old original LR510 attys

this in response to all of your requests,


The light hearted responses, and posts are to entertain while we wait -
sorry if you do not enjoy our humour.

Thanks Di
Once again you've proven that your "valued customers" are not going to learn anything worthwhile about the quality or functionality of EM products by reading your posts.
I might really be into fashion myself, if I wasn't so busy trying to figure out if I can buy an atomizer from your company without getting screwed.
If I ever need any fashion tips I know who to ask.
Anything else, not so much.

The situation would be very funny, if it wasn't quite so pathetic.

!!! Good Day Sir !!!

 

[Di]

Totally Serious Post on LR510 attys -----

The LR 510 attys in the original -- much asked for their return ----style ----


will be coming very soon to Eastmall shop.


I will post here when they are available-----

to help you all to have a try of them first to satisfy your worries -------

we will send 100 of these new -old - original style LR 510 attys to Chris
he is in the USA,
he will send to you - on your request -- 1 or 2 of these at a slightly reduced price, for a sample --

you will pay to chris, the sample price and postage from him to you-


there ----- this is the latest update on the LR 510 from Eastmall ----------

 

[tobarger]

!!!!!! I Said Good Day Sir !!!!!!

 

[dskarpus]

Thanks Di
Once again you've proven that your "valued customers" are not going to learn anything worthwhile about the quality or functionality of EM products by reading your posts.
I might really be into fashion myself, if I wasn't so busy trying to figure out if I can buy an atomizer from your company without getting screwed.
If I ever need any fashion tips I know who to ask.
Anything else, not so much.

The situation would be very funny, if it wasn't quite so pathetic.

!!! Good Day Sir !!!

As a "valued customer", I am offended. Your implications that we are uninformed about anything is untrue. This forum does take flight to whimsy when time permits. Quality, functionality and availability are primary subjects and answers are given in timely fashion.

Threads show the lengths Eastmall goes to satisfy their customers. Every single customer is valued. Yes, there have been problems in the short Eastmall history. Some situations have arisen, but David et al have performed admirably.

To expect perfection at this point is misguided. The industry as a whole did not really start until 18 months ago. To insult is easy. The target is hard to miss. What is hard is the Eastmall operation. To satisfy customers over the long haul with high quality, customer service and the boldness to move forward with innovation.

Humor is essential. How else would a smoker react when confronted with an electronic cigarette for the first time?