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Is it safe to Vape indoors around my kids?

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  1. Frank NJ

    Frank NJ Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 22, 2012
    Hi All,

    Is it safe to vape in the house around other people or better yet kids?
  2. Madcaprym

    Madcaprym Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 21, 2011
    Pittsburgh, PA. US
    Yes it is safe, the byproduct is only water vapor. Be careful about leaving you e juice around kids or pets they can get sick if they get into a bottle!
  3. yzer

    yzer Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Nov 23, 2011
    Northern California
    No. You don't absorb all of the nicotine inhaled with e-cigarettes. Much of the remaining nicotine is exhaled. Use an e-cigarette with the same cautions you would use smoking a cigarette.

    I know, your exhaled vapor contains only water vapor, nicotine and flavorings and not any of the hundreds of toxic and carcinogenic ingredients of tobacco smoke. Still, nicotine alone is a reduced risk ingredient, not a safe ingredient as it has harmful neurological and cardiopulmonary properties.

    Reduce risk from smoking for yourself but do not expose others to the risk of nicotine without their approval. Kids and pets: they don't know enough about the risk of nicotine to give their approval.
  4. Andy Thatcher

    Andy Thatcher Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 22, 2012
    Brit in Orlando
    I do.

    I have read everything I could find on the topic and am very comfortable with my decision.
  5. fray

    fray Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jan 13, 2011
    A good bit of what is exhaled is flavoring and water. Some pg and a negligible amount of nic.

    I don't vape around my kids. Personal choice because if psychological reasons as well as the off chance there is a health issue. I DO vape indoors when they are not around or in bed.

    Maybe go better safe than sorry?
  6. tinajfreeman

    tinajfreeman Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 27, 2010
    Jacksonville, FL
    I vape in the house but generally in a different room than my kids, most of the times on a different floor. I probably wouldn't in a small confined space though.
  7. PoliticallyIncorrect

    PoliticallyIncorrect Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 31, 2010
    Relative to blowing cigarette smoke in their faces, it's safe.

    But safe in an absolute sense? That I can't answer.

    The key phrase attached to vaping is harm reduction, as opposed to harmless. A very few have reported pets and small children to exhibit some minor respiratory reactions to exhaled vapor.

    However microscopic the risk of vaping, I take it only upon myself—even though the risk of second-hand vapor is infinitesimal.
  8. Frank NJ

    Frank NJ Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 22, 2012
    Hi Andy could you send me some links if you have them on this topic? I dont vape right next to them usually in a different room. I've been experimenting with different juices and my wife says 2 of them are making the house smell lol ... One is the Java Mint from V4L and the other is gorilla juice. When she told me that it set off the alarm .. ohoh is it bad for the kids to be exposed even if I'm in a different room in the house...
  9. Caridwen

    Caridwen ECF Moderator Senior Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jan 15, 2011
  10. Hitmetwice

    Hitmetwice Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 18, 2012
    My main concern would be more along the lines of "monkey see, monkey do"!

    Both my mom and my gramps smoked when I was young, I got my first smokes from them.
    They were easy to sneak the odd one. As I got older I'd take the occasional pack outta gramps' carton.

    Call me a monkey if you like, but all kids are little monkies.IMO.

  11. imsoenthused

    imsoenthused Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 19, 2011
    Tulsa, OK
    One of the regulars on here had his parrot that sits in the same room where he vapes tested to see if second hand vapor was affecting it. Birds are many times more prone to absorbing things from the air than human beings. The bird didn't even test positive for trace nicotine, but did test positive for contaminants from vehicle exhaust in his suburban neighborhood outside. Basically, the canary in the coal mine says it's absolutely fine, but if it makes you uncomfortable don't do it. Me, I'll happily blow vapor at children all day long.

    Edit: that last line was a joke, just realized I probably better make that clear since I don't want any angry accusations that I'm blowing vapor rings down into baby strollers. I don't feel any problem vaping arround children, but I'm not actively trying to blow it in their direction.
  12. takirb

    takirb Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 28, 2012
    My wife and I do. We have an 18 month old daughter, and never smoked inside the house. I don't worry too much about making any mental impression on her just by seeing us smoke (on the porch) or vape in the house. Not like she's never gonna see someone do it. I can't give all the calculated data and research on whether it's 100% safe or harmful, but i've read alot online (search google) and made my decision. We'll vape in the living room, kitchen, open area places like that around my daughter and i think it's fine. We'll even vape in the car with our daughter, but we both take extra precaution to blow the vapor out the window. I'd never vape in a confined space with her, nor if i'm even holding her. I only have 1 juice (MBV RY4) that leaves an "aftersmell", and I make sure not to vape that around her at all. I guess that's just a mental thing with me though, if no one can smell it, and can't see if after a few minutes, then I feel more comfortable with it.
  13. Sharktank

    Sharktank Full Member

    Apr 12, 2012
    My daughter was the biggest reason why I quit smoking. I always smoked outside and away from her and I still felt guilty. Since I started vaping I do vape indoors but always in my office and not in her face. Good, bad, or ugly i think I would wait a few years to see the results of vaping before I would subject a family members to the vapers. I've only been vaping for three months but that my thoughts. Good luck and keep on vaping!
  14. yzer

    yzer Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Nov 23, 2011
    Northern California
    Sharktank, I think you make perfectly good sense.

    The only study I've seen about pets and nicotine concerns dogs and cats. There are many articles about his stemming from the same study. Here are some links.

    Nicotine Toxicity in Cats - Page 1

    Nicotine Toxicity in Dogs - Page 1

    Effects of nicotine on electrocortical activity and acetylcholine release from the cat cerebral cortex

    So, studies haven't been done on the effects of exhaled nicotine vapor on pets or children, but common sense dictates that caution in this regard is well advised.

    I want to use vaping to:

    1. Eliminate toxic tobacco tar from my body and that of my loved ones.
    2. Eliminate nicotine from my body and that of my loved ones.
    3. Eliminate smoking first, and vaping second.
    4. Live a healthier lifestyle with better nutrition, exercise and the elimination of toxic substances as far as possible.
    5. Die of anything else besides tobacco and nicotine related causes.
  15. yzer

    yzer Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Nov 23, 2011
    Northern California
    Essentially, I don't expect to be vaping for the rest of my life. I can do better than that.

    -I tried to quit smoking cold turkey several times, without success.

    -Vaping works. I can quit smoking with easier with vaping.

    -I will reduce my nicotine consumption by vaping weaker nicotine juice until I can quit vaping. I will resist the enticement to buy more and more efficient nicotine delivering APVs. I see no need to vape zero mg nicotine. Deep breathing will suffice (I hope).

    -Goal: A healthier and longer life.

    Message to younger people: If you aren't hooked on smoking, don't take up vaping. The devil lurks in nicotine. If you don't want to pay the price, don't play.
  16. Forkeh

    Forkeh Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 16, 2012
    I wouldn't vape in the same room with them, but it's fine in the same house. The vapor dissipated too quickly to be a worry if you're in another room.
  17. yzer

    yzer Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Nov 23, 2011
    Northern California
    Maybe, if you have a drafty house. My 30-year old solar heated house is as tight as a drum. No drafts to speak of during the winter. During the spring and fall we have a lot of open air and vaping in one room will probably not travel to another. That's not the case during the winter when the house is sealed for heating or the dead of summer, when it's sealed for cooling.
  18. mikkey9

    mikkey9 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 5, 2012
    Chesterfield, England
  19. Intensebran

    Intensebran Full Member

    Apr 22, 2012
    Very enlightening thread indeed. So I think i will vape when my kids and family are not around, or walk somewhere else.
  20. *ASH*

    *ASH* لــــونــــــا Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 28, 2012
    Baden-Baden \ Germany
    Yes it safe and that was one of my maon reson to quit smoke and start vape as I dont want my baby to smell the smoke.

    just as all said for you keep the e-;iquid far away from your kids and every thing will be fine.,
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