is porvari king?

[dice57]

....that's assuming he likes to vape at 15 watts and 6 volts. Where's the USB charging cable for your Provari? I bet the MVP can change voltages faster.. have a race.. go from three volts to five then back to four.. I can guarantee you, the MVP will be quicker....

Sorry you are having such a hard time finding your sweet spot. I tend to set it and forget about it. All my regulated mods are dialed up to max output and that's where I keep it. On the Beast that's roughly 22 watts, on the futura 30.

what about the passthrough functionality of your Provari? can you charge your cellphone with a provari? BTW, which has a smaller form factor.. the provari or MVP.....

Passt-hrough? Why would I even want a pass-through? And why would I want to waste my vape time to charge anything? With spare batteries there's no need to put a leash on. Also, I don't use a cell phone. Form factor? Box vs Tube? Guess it would depended on how you were looking at it, both are smaller, both are bigger, depends on your perspective.

As I said, there are plusses and minuses to each one. If you're talking voltages and wattages, my $35 Vamo beats you there... along with a 18350, 18500 and 18650 tube... I could buy almost four Vamos Vs one Provari.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, instead of owning the Stingray Copper Black, Futura DNA30, Big Nasty, Nemesis, Beast Box VV, and SuperMax, you could have 20 Vamo's. You win, yeah, got to admit defeat there.

Umm, don't use anything smaller than an 18650, not enough power/amps for my needs. Although I do use two 26500's on the Beast.

The 'one up' thing is not really what it's all about. It's like asking which is better, a corvette, a Ford f350, or a Mack truck, or the latest honda hybrid.... they all have their roles, and what works for you, others may not like.

In a way yes and no. The weak link in all things vape is the Vaper. With out the proper support gear, knowledge and ability, the best high end gear is likely to cause more harm than good. But when one can maximize the performance of their mod and rba, then yeah, it's just like everything else. There are big block Chevy's, Jaguars and Porches'.

When it comes right down to the Vape of things, there is no way that an MVP can match the potential of the Provari. No Way, No How, not possible. In the 11 watt capable devices, the MVP is probably one of the best, but it ain't no Provari.

And that's the other thing, you kept saying "your Povairi". I am sorry, I do not own a Provari. All though my first regulated starter kit was the Provari. I have moved beyond the potential that the Provari could provide, so sold it to a co-worker.

Vape long and Prosper.

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

I just watched the ProVape demo clip about the Provari...

9 button clicks to power down?
11 button clicks to check battery voltage?
5 button clicks to access voltage "up"?
7 button clicks to access voltage "down"?

I hope that's an industrial button Makes me appreciate the simplicity of the MVP2's dual buttons. The one thing going for the Provari though is it's USA made which might trump everything.

 

[Southern Tina]

Long time, no see KODIAK.

 

[p.opus]

Wow....Another MVP vs ProVari debate.....It's been a while.....

Unlike the last time I got into this debate, I can honestly say now I own both.

That being said, heres my thoughts.

1. The MVP is the best bang for your buck. No Vaper should be without one. The device is just that good. I own 3 ProVaris and use them almost exclusively at work and home. BUT when I need to travel overnight, its the MVP that goes into my bag. It is MUCH easier to travel with my cell phone charger and an MVP than to try and bring batteries, and external charger and all that rubbish. Use it as your backup, Use it as your Primary. It doesn't matter. Beat it up....It's cheap to replace. Just don't fall in love with it......To quote Eldon Tyrell, "The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly, Roy". Your MVP will die....It has a built in limited lifespan. When the internal battery dies, a little piece of you dies as well. You hope that it's replacement will still be available

2. Once you come to grips with the fleeting life your MVP has on this planet, you want something that vapes just as good but will actually last longer than the batteries you put into it, and you buy a ProVari. With a ProVari you get a device that has the same smooth flat signal as the MVP, is 5 times more accurate in it's voltage regulation, and is backed by the best warranty in the business. You also get the sense of security knowing that the firing switch on your device is rated for nearly 40 years of continual use (5 million presses), a company that will repair the device should you need it. Basically you find a device you CAN fall in love with.

 

[drummerskey]

The best part of vaping is that it is a personal preference on almost everything. This is one of the reasons I dislike seeing suggestions to new people to buy a mech mod and start sub ohming right off the bat. There are enough choices out there and whether those choices are successful is based on the user. Some want big clouds, some want to tinker, some want ease of use, some want flavor, some want to legitimately save money from smoking. One man's trash is another man's treasure and you have to try things to see if they work for you or not.

The question about which is "king" is like asking who has the best pizza.

 

[p.opus]

The question about which is "king" is like asking who has the best pizza.

True that!!!!!

 

[tiffany7278]

I own both and use them both daily. Get what your budget can afford.

 

[EddardinWinter]

Wow, I see,

A reasonable discussion,

of the topic at hand.

There is no need for me to linger.

Carry on, vapers.

 

[p.opus]

I just watched the ProVape demo clip about the Provari...

9 button clicks to power down?
11 button clicks to check battery voltage?
5 button clicks to access voltage "up"?
7 button clicks to access voltage "down"?

I hope that's an industrial button Makes me appreciate the simplicity of the MVP2's dual buttons. The one thing going for the Provari though is it's USA made which might trump everything.

Yeah, it's a bit of PITA, but you get used to it. That's why it's good that the fire button is rated for 5,000,000 presses.

300 presses a day equates to 45.66 years.....
500 presses a day equates to 27.34 years.....

The last thing I worry about on my ProVari is the fire button.

 

[havoc1967]

Now that I am somewhat of an experianced vaper I am periodically asked by smoker friends what device I would recommend to start with. I always recommend the MVP. A quality affordable device that looks good and just plain works. That way they are not intimidated with batteries, chargers, ect and are also not playing the gamble game on whether that eGo is decent or not. After a few months with the MVP, assuming they stick with vaping, they can then research and decide or more specialized items. They will then make an intelligent informed decision as far as which direction they want to go in (mech, sub-ohm, expensive mech or clone, bottom feeder, etc, etc).

 

[p.opus]

Now that I am somewhat of an experianced vaper I am periodically asked by smoker friends what device I would recommend to start with. I always recommend the MVP. A quality affordable device that looks good and just plain works. That way they are not intimidated with batteries, chargers, ect and are also not playing the gamble game on whether that eGo is decent or not. After a few months with the MVP, assuming they stick with vaping, they can then research and decide or more specialized items. They will then make an intelligent informed decision as far as which direction they want to go in (mech, sub-ohm, expensive mech or clone, bottom feeder, etc, etc).

That is super advise. If a person is only interested in quitting smoking and not taking up vaping as a hobby, the MVP is great in that it does not require a huge up front investment.

Once I decided that vaping would be a lifestyle instead a transitional thing, I decided to invest into it more heavily. At that point I was less worried about up front cost and more about durability, reliability, and performance. (Kayfun, ProVari).

 

[Coldrake]

Don't feel stupid.
Think of the automatic transmission in the car- for simplicity, it works well, you get in, step on the gas, and go. On the other hand you have manual transmission, which may require some thought, and isn't automagic, but if you want the most efficiency, delivering the most power, and the ability to control the power exactly as you need it- nothing beats a manual transmission....but it's not for everyone.

You can shift an automatic transmission when you want to.......

 

[Southern Tina]

You can shift an automatic transmission when you want to.......

You can? Shows what I know bout that. Lol.

 

[RebelGolfer72]

You can shift an automatic transmission when you want to.......

You can, within reason. You can force it to downshift to a lower gear, but you can't force it to a higher gear. You also lose the ability to feather the clutch if needed.

 

[Completely Average]

You can shift an automatic transmission when you want to.......

Yes and no.

You have a limited ability to shift an automatic, but the automatic will overrule your input if you try to shift outside of it's designed operational range. For instance, put the car in 1st gear and floor it. When you reach redline most autos will wait a brief moment and then shift into second without any input from you in order to protect the engine and transmission. Likewise it will refuse to downshift if doing so will result in the engine turning higher than redline RPMs.

 

[drummerskey]

Plus, you run into the possibility that you look like a tool bag trying to shift an automatic

 

[Tomthern]

This, times 1K. I remember looking through a vaping forum a year or so ago and the attitude was so elitist and, quite frankly, douchey that it delayed my switch. Every third post was about some 'n00b' with his 'cigalike,' condescension dripping off the screen. I'm glad I found this forum and gave it a shot. Use the equipment you can afford and that you enjoy. Upgrade if something isn't working for you, or you try something out and it enhances the experience. Otherwise, don't try to keep up with the Joneses!

Thanks I needed to hear that. I think people do try to upgrade just to upgrade. I have had a few bumps with my mod but I can fix them. It really is whatever works.

 

[Southern Tina]

You can, within reason. You can force it to downshift to a lower gear, but you can't force it to a higher gear. You also lose the ability to feather the clutch if needed.

Well I know how to drive a stick and I know how to drive an automatic. But, ummm. I don't even see a clutch on this thing?

 

[RebelGolfer72]

Well I know how to drive a stick and I know how to drive an automatic. But, ummm. I don't even see a clutch on this thing?

Exactly. No clutch, and you don't get to manually tell it which gear you want it in, you can only tell it the " highest gear that you want its internal shifting logic to allow it to go in". So you really don't shift an auto tranny.

 

[Southern Tina]

Exactly. No clutch, and you don't get to manually tell it which gear you want it in, you can only tell it the " highest gear that you want its internal shifting logic to allow it to go in". So you really don't shift an auto tranny.

Well that's good cause I really hope I'm never in a situation to even consider that