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is porvari king?
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I don't think so, but then again, I have never had one. But, my MVP works well at a much cheaper price.
Provari seems to have better battery control and that isn't bad. The idea that trucks can run over it is not something I really value. I do have a coffee cup in my study, bedroom, car and office. I put paper towels so they are more secure/protected.
Listening and considering it, I just don't see the overall value. As to keeping up with the Jones'. I couldn't care less, in fact, I abhor it. I have always gone with what I think. I have friends that vape and one has a Provari. I tried it and it was okay.
I'll keep listening and considering. To each their own.
Jere
Guess you've never driven a "manu-matic"?
I prefer a true manual myself but VW's Tiptronics and DSG boxes are great.
I've read a lot of these Provari vs X threads over the years and this is one of the best! Very friendly - well done! 
My sweet spot is 11 watts on my AGA-T2. When I'm at work, I prefer to get a higher nic content since I only have a 10 minute "vape break", so I use my dual coils.. I change up to 14 or 15 watts for that. When I get in the car, I don't want to fog up the car on a rainy day, so I stick in my Protank 2 and lower it down to maybe 9 or 10. It also depends on what juice I like at the time.. sometimes I like to switch to a less PG based juice, some juices like higher wattages, some like lower. Guess I am just a vaping connoisseur.
Less hassle with batteries. MVP does not need to be cleaned at the battery contacts, they're soldiered. IF you have a pass through, you wouldn't need to waste time to charge.
You become a slave to batteries and your charger. Slave to what you carry in your pocket... one device, or a device + two batteries. Besides, carrying around loose lithium batteries can be dangerous... especially if you have car keys in the same pocket.
And don't forget to add the seasons passes to six flags for the family, a couple of dinner and movie nights, and the new DVR ... BTW, two or three vamos is all you'd need.
doesn't sound very pocketable.
Not everyone vapes clouds. Not everyone needs a DNA 30 or a "Big Nasty" sticking out of their pocket. Most vapers don't need anything more than an EGO with a Vivi Nova. I saw a man two days ago vaping an MVP. He knew about mods, and the more diverse vaping gear. But he said he didn't need anything more than what he had, he put the MVP in his shirt pocket, hoped on his Harley, and drove off. No big block Chevy, Jaguar, or Porche there, but it was a sweet ride. (and yes, that is a true story)
Again, potential does not necessarily = big vapor. If his goal was to provide huge plumages, then yes, Provari might be better. But as an ADV device, it is a more personal choice.[/quote]
Ok.. this'll be the last I'll post on this topic. my conclusion is... if you like what you vape, then stick with what you have. There is no clear "king" when it comes to the best device. Provari, MVP, Nemesis, Vamo, Reo, Ego, and yes, even Cigalikes have their advantages and disadvantages. I have my preference, others have theirs. If you're happy with the vapor your mod gives, yet still find yourself having "vape envy", then you're vaping for style/Status symbol, and not for the actual love of the vapor itself.
I've read a lot of these Provari vs X threads over the years and this is one of the best! Very friendly - well done!
I know! Rare right?! Most of them don't start off like this but eventually they all turn ugly. So far this one had remained readable.
I just wanted a reliable device they would provide consistant vapour throughout the discharge of a battery. Cigalikes fall way short from providing consistant vapour, they don't last long enough and don't hold enough liquid. Ego devices lose their ability to provide enough vapour halfway through their discharge. Same goes for other mods that i have. If my provari came up short i'd still be looking for a device that could satisfy me. I haven't bought another device since i got a provari. I still use the spinners that i have but when i switch from my provari to a spinner i do notice a big difference in vapour production. Provari simply performs better and continues to perform just as well throughout the entire discharge of a battery. I cannot find fault with it. It was only a few months ago i was saying i would never get one because they are too expensive. So until it fails i'd say i'm glad i bought it.
I have tried many many many mods.
Mechanical and otherwise.
For consistent, reliable, long lasting (no sub ohm) vaping, the Provari is it. It's the Toyota of mods - no flash, little style, more of an appliance than a mod.
I just got a Samovar. It's the Svoemesto Provari, with VW included, and an option for mech vaping. Seems good - sort of the Mercedes to the Provari's Toyota.
It's really about choice once you are past a certain price.
Mechanical and otherwise.
For consistent, reliable, long lasting (no sub ohm) vaping, the Provari is it. It's the Toyota of mods - no flash, little style, more of an appliance than a mod.
I just got a Samovar. It's the Svoemesto Provari, with VW included, and an option for mech vaping. Seems good - sort of the Mercedes to the Provari's Toyota.
It's really about choice once you are past a certain price.
Several reasons for this I think....
1. The MVP is well respected in the vaping community. Many ProVari owners own MVP's as well. It is almost the perfect blend of price, form and function. The biggest downside other than a center pin issue that keeps cropping up is that it's most definitely a throw away piece. But at the price you can get one, it's a non issue. The MVP makes no bones about what it is and what it isn't. It isn't a bunch of cheap components clad in a Stainless Steel Housing that makes one think it will actually outlast the batteries you put in it. It's disposable, you know that going in. Thus you have no unreasonable expectations on how long it will last. But once you get used to the MVP, you may want something that will perform and "feel" the same way, but is built to last. In that case you can naturally begin looking towards ProVari.
2. The ProVari is no longer the most expensive mod commonly available. With the new DNA 20/DNA 30 mod's out and the newest mod's coming out of China pushing the $130 to $150 range, the ProVari's price is no longer so shocking.
3. The ProVari performance and build quality is unrivaled. One can always argue whether or not a ProVari is "worth it" for them. That is subjective, as is any opinion that regards value. However, the quality of the product, the performance of the product, and the reliability of the product can not be questioned.
Of course someone is destined to come in here and try to ruffle feathers. But I simply go back to the three points I made above.
No I wouldn't say it's king. That all depends on the user.
I'm still new to the vaping community and I still have a lot of mods I'm looking forward to trying.
Although with that said, I love my Provari. Tried my friends MVP 2 and although it's great, I prefer the Provari. But don't feel like the MVP 2 isn't a good purchase.... it definitely is, and will suit you well.
They both have pros and cons.
I'm still new to the vaping community and I still have a lot of mods I'm looking forward to trying.
Although with that said, I love my Provari. Tried my friends MVP 2 and although it's great, I prefer the Provari. But don't feel like the MVP 2 isn't a good purchase.... it definitely is, and will suit you well.
They both have pros and cons.
Ok.. this'll be the last I'll post on this topic. my conclusion is... if you like what you vape, then stick with what you have. There is no clear "king" when it comes to the best device. Provari, MVP, Nemesis, Vamo, Reo, Ego, and yes, even Cigalikes have their advantages and disadvantages. I have my preference, others have theirs. If you're happy with the vapor your mod gives, yet still find yourself having "vape envy", then you're vaping for style/Status symbol, and not for the actual love of the vapor itself.[/QUOTE]
I don't really have anything to add just thought this was a really cool long quote.
Hey, I hear you.
And I don't care what they say about the MVP2... I like it but the button is *still* hard to press (at least for me). I must have little girly thumbs.wasnt all that impressed with it honestly. lots of better options out there for the money
My only thought concerning this is availability. Along with the ridiculous high price of new stuff there's often not enough of them produced for the masses. You either end up on someone's pre-order list or stalking the classies.
I really like the new VTR from itaste the way it includes the tank in the box design very streamlined
They are batteries.
I have several eGos, Spinners, a Sigelei mini, an MVP2 and a Prothingy. They are all fine--I use them all and I like them all. They all do what they are supposed to do--they fire an atomizer which delivers a nice plume of tasty vapor, which, in turn, keeps me from lighting a cigarette. Isn't that what is it's all about?
Just my contribution to this unusually civilized thread--the first one in my memory.
Happy vaping, my friends!
OK, that just kicked me in the head. Look at how much we all talk and study and compare and question and sweat and worry about WHICH BATTERY TUBE WE SHOULD USE TO MAKE VAPOR TO INHALE!!!They are batteries.
The more I read and the more I learn and the more I think about it, the more I'm thinking I'll just stay with my little Halo Triton VV and little Triton plastic tanks and just not buy juices that will melt them. No problem, there - so far the only thing I've really wanted to vape continually has been my simple non-tank-melting menthol blend.
But .......... those battery tubes are soooo pretty. And fancy. And...and I don't know why, but I just really want one!
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