Since the sneak peak of the Provari version 3 has been released, a lot of mixed reaction has been generated in response to this highly anticipated device. For the diehards/fan boys (I consider myself as one), the recently released first look rendered excitement with new features such as the HotShot Boost, the ability to use flat top batteries, and a wider range of coil builds that can be used (Fires down to 0.7 ohms). This was my initial reaction to seeing the device. Then, I felt as though someone busted my balloon. I began to look at the responses from the other side. Several vapers have shown disappointment in (among other things) the OLED screen and the initial release being exclusively offered by brick and mortar establishments. However, most of the controversy seems to be surrounding the 20 watt limit (The V3 has added wattage as a feature). Many vapers (Including myself) rarely go beyond 10 watts. So the current version 2 Mini or 2.5 Full size is more than sufficient. However, a large group of the community enjoys being able to have a much higher limit. Many of the reviewers are now seen regularly sub ohm vaping on both mechanical and regulated devices that go well beyond 20 watts (eg., SX330, SX 350, and Evolv’s DNA 30 chips). These reviewers have a lot of influence on what our growing vape community desires to purchase. Provape has said this desire for higher wattage devices does not represent the majority of vapers, and seems to be standing firm on offering a lower limit than what their competition is currently offering or developing. Could this be a terrible mistake in judgment on their part?
As is mentioned in the title of this thread, I cannot help but draw a parallel to Blackberry smart phone devices. Yes I still carry one of those (Actually two). It’s a rock solid device that I have used for many years, and I think of it as old reliable. Heck, I even bought the Z10 for myself and a Q10 for my wife when they were first released. They can’t do many of the things other phones on the market can do, but they are secure and reliable. So what if they are missing features and apps like the more popular I-phones and Android devices. I’m loyal to what I love and to what I’ve become accustomed to. However, instead of feeling like a trend setter, I feel like a rebel when I get those “Oh you poor boy” stares from the majority of smart phone users. Once, Blackberry was the standard. Businesses used them almost exclusively, and while most cell phone users at that time did not own a smart phone, this quickly changed once competition emerged. Once cell phone users saw both the fun and practical things that could be done on the competitors phones, they wanted a smart phone. In the meantime, Blackberry stuck to its guns and while they released phones that offered newer and revised features, their format was pretty much the same. They embraced business customers, and soon not only did smart phone users grow in number, in time their business customers began to carry two devices (One Blackberry provided to them by their employer, and an I-Phone or Android device for fun). In time, as the I-phone/Android market gained in popularity the majority of business customers (Once almost exclusively Blackberry) decided to switch to non-Blackberry devices. In many cases, the competitor’s phones were the same in price (If not cheaper), and with more sales came more app developers to the format. Now Blackberry is trying to stay afloat. Where is this going- and how does a smart phone and an Advanced vaping Device compare (At least in my opinion)?
Since the Provari V3 was first mentioned, there was genuine excitement for an update to a well made American device that used to be seen as the standard in variable voltage. The first look left many disappointed because this device does not seem keep up with the new trends in vaping (Higher wattage limits). Many have expressed that the P3 (As it is being called) should at least be able to perform at 30 watts like Evolv’s chip. Some of the fanboys have even said that’s why you should own a mechanical in edition to a Provari. Have a Provari for what it does well, and a mechanical when you want to vape at higher limits (e.g., RDA’s). Could this be have a Provari for business and SX - Evolv Chips/Mechanicals for fun (Stay with the trends)? Could this lower wattage limit be ignoring the desires of a growing number of vapers?
Look, I’ve used my Provari Mini V1 almost exclusively since I got it in April 2012 without issue. When I got mine, there were limited choices in regards to regulated devices. You got a Darwin (If you could find/afford one), a Provari (If you could afford one), or a Lavatube version 1 (Considered affordable, but not the most reliable). That was the trend then. I chose the Provari because it was available and considered to be reliable. It’s been a rock solid device and it has fit my needs. However, there are times when I look over at what others are doing/building and would like to give it a try. The market has dramatically changed since I bought my first Provari. There are a plethora of devices that are available at both affordable and expensive prices. Unlike some of the early budget friendly devices available, there are several lower priced devices that are deemed both reliable and capable of exceeding many of the specifications than this V3 is offering. Even though the price of this device has not been released (At the time of this writing), it is speculated that it will be at least as expensive as the currently offered version (It’s speculated to be more). While that’s less expensive than some competition, it’s also more expensive than many. Several of these regulated devices (Or soon to be available devices) can meet or outperform the V3 wattage limits. This wattage limit seems to be one of the main factors for vapers in selecting a regulated device. Is Provape just being stubborn like Blackberry was in the past?
It has been said that Provape is sending out beta P3’s to authorized seller’s to get their feedback and to work out any potential flaws before releasing this upgrade. Though I’ll probably never vape consistently above 10 watts, it would be nice to be able to at least keep up with some of the more trendy devices. Maybe it’s a psychological thing like having SIRI on an I-phone. It’s not used a regularly, but it’s a neat feature that is among the reasons that the phone was purchased. Hopefully during this feedback time, Provape will rethink this 20 watt limit and offer at least 30 watts. Currently, many consider 30 watts in to be the new minimum ceiling in regulated limits. As a loyal user, I’ll most likely purchase a P3. I look forward to many of its new features (Like the HotShot Boost and being able use 18350, 18490, and 18650 ). However due to the wattage limits, I can’t help feeling that in some respects I will be purchasing something that’s so 2013.
As is mentioned in the title of this thread, I cannot help but draw a parallel to Blackberry smart phone devices. Yes I still carry one of those (Actually two). It’s a rock solid device that I have used for many years, and I think of it as old reliable. Heck, I even bought the Z10 for myself and a Q10 for my wife when they were first released. They can’t do many of the things other phones on the market can do, but they are secure and reliable. So what if they are missing features and apps like the more popular I-phones and Android devices. I’m loyal to what I love and to what I’ve become accustomed to. However, instead of feeling like a trend setter, I feel like a rebel when I get those “Oh you poor boy” stares from the majority of smart phone users. Once, Blackberry was the standard. Businesses used them almost exclusively, and while most cell phone users at that time did not own a smart phone, this quickly changed once competition emerged. Once cell phone users saw both the fun and practical things that could be done on the competitors phones, they wanted a smart phone. In the meantime, Blackberry stuck to its guns and while they released phones that offered newer and revised features, their format was pretty much the same. They embraced business customers, and soon not only did smart phone users grow in number, in time their business customers began to carry two devices (One Blackberry provided to them by their employer, and an I-Phone or Android device for fun). In time, as the I-phone/Android market gained in popularity the majority of business customers (Once almost exclusively Blackberry) decided to switch to non-Blackberry devices. In many cases, the competitor’s phones were the same in price (If not cheaper), and with more sales came more app developers to the format. Now Blackberry is trying to stay afloat. Where is this going- and how does a smart phone and an Advanced vaping Device compare (At least in my opinion)?
Since the Provari V3 was first mentioned, there was genuine excitement for an update to a well made American device that used to be seen as the standard in variable voltage. The first look left many disappointed because this device does not seem keep up with the new trends in vaping (Higher wattage limits). Many have expressed that the P3 (As it is being called) should at least be able to perform at 30 watts like Evolv’s chip. Some of the fanboys have even said that’s why you should own a mechanical in edition to a Provari. Have a Provari for what it does well, and a mechanical when you want to vape at higher limits (e.g., RDA’s). Could this be have a Provari for business and SX - Evolv Chips/Mechanicals for fun (Stay with the trends)? Could this lower wattage limit be ignoring the desires of a growing number of vapers?
Look, I’ve used my Provari Mini V1 almost exclusively since I got it in April 2012 without issue. When I got mine, there were limited choices in regards to regulated devices. You got a Darwin (If you could find/afford one), a Provari (If you could afford one), or a Lavatube version 1 (Considered affordable, but not the most reliable). That was the trend then. I chose the Provari because it was available and considered to be reliable. It’s been a rock solid device and it has fit my needs. However, there are times when I look over at what others are doing/building and would like to give it a try. The market has dramatically changed since I bought my first Provari. There are a plethora of devices that are available at both affordable and expensive prices. Unlike some of the early budget friendly devices available, there are several lower priced devices that are deemed both reliable and capable of exceeding many of the specifications than this V3 is offering. Even though the price of this device has not been released (At the time of this writing), it is speculated that it will be at least as expensive as the currently offered version (It’s speculated to be more). While that’s less expensive than some competition, it’s also more expensive than many. Several of these regulated devices (Or soon to be available devices) can meet or outperform the V3 wattage limits. This wattage limit seems to be one of the main factors for vapers in selecting a regulated device. Is Provape just being stubborn like Blackberry was in the past?
It has been said that Provape is sending out beta P3’s to authorized seller’s to get their feedback and to work out any potential flaws before releasing this upgrade. Though I’ll probably never vape consistently above 10 watts, it would be nice to be able to at least keep up with some of the more trendy devices. Maybe it’s a psychological thing like having SIRI on an I-phone. It’s not used a regularly, but it’s a neat feature that is among the reasons that the phone was purchased. Hopefully during this feedback time, Provape will rethink this 20 watt limit and offer at least 30 watts. Currently, many consider 30 watts in to be the new minimum ceiling in regulated limits. As a loyal user, I’ll most likely purchase a P3. I look forward to many of its new features (Like the HotShot Boost and being able use 18350, 18490, and 18650 ). However due to the wattage limits, I can’t help feeling that in some respects I will be purchasing something that’s so 2013.
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