Is this story legit? -- Loving couple banned from adopting... because husband had 'e-cigarette'

[BuGlen]

I saw this in my news feed yesterday, and I'm wondering if anyone from the U.K. could verify this story or similar situations. It's in the Daily Mail and I've heard that the DM is not the most reliable source, so I'm a bit skeptical.

www. dailymail .co.uk/news/article-2963523/Loving-couple-banned-adopting-husband-e-cigarette.html

Social workers have barred a couple from adopting a child after the would-be father was seen smoking an e-cigarette.

The decision came after the pair had passed a long series of tests to qualify as parents, and had earlier paid for expensive fertility treatment, which failed.


They were told they could not adopt if either of them had used an e-cigarette in the past 12 months – despite experts saying that ‘vaping’ poses little or no threat to children in the home.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

Would make a good lawsuit. Getting vaping into the courts would be good. I think it would get a good result.

 

[Danie06]

I saw this in my news feed yesterday, and I'm wondering if anyone from the U.K. could verify this story or similar situations. It's in the Daily Mail and I've heard that the DM is not the most reliable source, so I'm a bit skeptical.

www. dailymail .co.uk/news/article-2963523/Loving-couple-banned-adopting-husband-e-cigarette.html

I honestly dont know at this point (it is after all the Daily Mail)
But Ive been looking around a bit and its interesting that foster care england has actually brought out a pretty decent document/ decision (in collobaration with ASH) in which they advice that e-cigarettes are no reason to deny parents an adoption:
https://www.fostering.net/policy-an...ements/on-smoking-and-the-use-of-e-cigarettes
"Whilst current research evidence suggests that the use of electronic cigarettes is effective in helping people to stop using traditional tobacco cigarettes, there is little to suggest that it is encouraging smoking. The Fostering Network considers the current research evidence provides no compelling reasons for restricting the use of e-cigarettes. Therefore foster carers should not be prevented from fostering or applying to foster because of their use of e-cigarettes."

However, I also read somewhere that 14 counties in England have a different policy.
Sounds like enough reason for a wonderful law suit if you ask me. Well if the story is true that is.

 

[retired1]

According to this article: http:// www. gloucestercitizen. co.uk/Couple-banned-adopting-child-husband-seen-using-e/story-26065062-detail/story.html

They were told they could not adopt if either of them had used an e-cigarette in the past 12 months – despite experts saying that ‘vaping’ poses little or no threat to children in the home.

The couple told The Mail on Sunday: “When there are so many children desperate for a family and a stable home, to put up such trivial barriers is ridiculous.”

According to its investigation at least 13 councils in England ban e-cigarette users from fostering or adopting young children.

Welcome to the dark ages.

 

[BuGlen]

According to this article: http:// www. gloucestercitizen. co.uk/Couple-banned-adopting-child-husband-seen-using-e/story-26065062-detail/story.html



Welcome to the dark ages.

I'm not very familiar with U.K. media, so please tell me how whether or not this second source is considered reputable. Thanks!

 

[retired1]

It's a local paper.

Generally, from what I remember when I lived there in the 90s, each local council pretty much makes their own rules for a lot of things, so this doesn't surprise me in the least.

 

[edyle]

The social worker warned them the council did not allow smokers to adopt young children, although she was unclear about its position with e-cigarette users.

Not exactly surprising.

Any sort of addiction is going to raise eyebrows.

 

[DrMA]

The story appears to be legit. Multiple sources cited it and there's fiery discussion about it on social media.

This is an escalation of anti-vaping sentiment and a dangerous precedent for arbitrary restrictions on personal freedoms from unelected apparatchiks. Not to mention the atrocious act perpetrated against the children who will remain stuck in the system instead of having a loving home and considerate people who even endeavored to quit smoking such that they may be better parents.

I renew my call for every vaper to actively advocate and seek the complete destruction of the ANTZ terrorist network before we're all packed into trains and sent to the ovens for no reason other than having quit smoking.

 

[edyle]

The story appears to be legit. Multiple sources cited it and there's fiery discussion about it on social media.

This is an escalation of anti-vaping sentiment and a dangerous precedent for arbitrary restrictions on personal freedoms from unelected apparatchiks. Not to mention the atrocious act perpetrated against the children who will remain stuck in the system instead of having a loving home and considerate people who even endeavored to quit smoking such that they may be better parents.

I renew my call for every vaper to actively advocate and seek the complete destruction of the ANTZ terrorist network before we're all packed into trains and sent to the ovens for no reason other than having quit smoking.

It's going to be the same debate as same sex couples adopting children.

 

[BuGlen]

It's going to be the same debate as same sex couples adopting children.

And if you're a same sex couple that vapes, then you're really screwed.

 

[DrMA]

I don't know if this was in response to vaper outrage on social media, but BAAF has just published updated guidelines on e-cigs
Updated Recommendation from BAAF regarding E-Cigarettes | British Association for Adoption and Fostering

 

[BuGlen]

I don't know if this was in response to vaper outrage on social media, but BAAF has just published updated guidelines on e-cigs
Updated Recommendation from BAAF regarding E-Cigarettes | British Association for Adoption and Fostering

This is an excellent development, even if it's not directly related.

 

[LaraC]

A very excellent development, yes.

In light of that update announcement it will be interesting to see what comes out of the upcoming (March 4, 2015) British Association for Adoption and Fostering (BAAF) Conference.

Fit to Adopt or Foster? | British Association for Adoption and Fostering

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Theme - This conference will explore a range of issues that perplex professionals and panel members who are responsible for recommending or making decisions on prospective applicants becoming either foster carers or adoptive parents.


"Fit to Adopt or Foster?"

Conference

Location: CARDIFF

Date: 04 Mar 2015

Venue:

Future Inn, Cardiff

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One of the panelists and her topic:

Florence Merredew –

(1) E Cigarettes – helpful or harmful? (2) Frequently asked questions – common conditions in adult health

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Contact details

Email: cardiff@baaf.org.uk
Telephone: 029 2076 1155