iTaste MVP v2 Owners Group

[CountBoredom]

I am not convinced myself yet what the optimum charge routine is for the MVP. I was reading a thread yesterday and saw three separate posters say they had theirs for upwards of a year and it's still working like the day they bought it .

I was so intrigued by this I asked each one what was their charging routine and I am currently awaiting their answers. Surprisingly from what I have read ( and it's a lot ) it seems the MVP's that have perished early were charged much more often than necessary.

So I am not convinced just yet (despite what battery University says) that charging and topping off all the time is what it takes to keep an MVP functioning for as long as possible.

Not until I hear what these three members have to say at least lol.

Keep us updated on the progress of your research, Herb. Charging frequency seems to be a topic that keeps popping back up.

 

[Stringplucker]

nice nose art wrap, looks like one of the Sailor Jerry type tats i have! i don't see any fins on the bomb..WTH is she riding?????????????

My eyes aren't that good anymore but I see some fins on there.

There's fins on the back.

 

[Storm52]

I'm sticking with charge at 3.7 or 3.6. When the MVP hits 3.6, it isn't long before you get yellow on the fire button. I've never run it down to red, but on the vv3 and granted you are talking much less mah, yellow quickly becomes red. I'm not interested, not that others shouldn't be, on how long I can make the mvp last. At 4 months, I've already gotten my $ worth, as the cost was less than a carton of cigs. I'm probably of a different mind set since I have 2 mvps, 2 vv3 and 2 provari, not counting 2 mechs I haven't taken out of the packages.

 

[garyoa1]

double post

Forums running wonky lately.

Yeah I'm not getting notifications anymore.

 

[herb]

Keep us updated on the progress of your research, Herb. Charging frequency seems to be a topic that keeps popping back up.

Will do pal.

 

[herb]

I'm sticking with charge at 3.7 or 3.6. When the MVP hits 3.6, it isn't long before you get yellow on the fire button. I've never run it down to red, but on the vv3 and granted you are talking much less mah, yellow quickly becomes red. I'm not interested, not that others shouldn't be, on how long I can make the mvp last. At 4 months, I've already gotten my $ worth, as the cost was less than a carton of cigs. I'm probably of a different mind set since I have 2 mvps, 2 vv3 and 2 provari, not counting 2 mechs I haven't taken out of the packages.

I think the majority who spend money to buy an MVP are definitely interested in it's longevity , no doubt people who have many alternatives don't sweat it as much but I think most do want to keep it working as long as they can.

 

[pufZeppelin]

...battery longevity {MVP & VV V3}


I try not to EVER let mine get to Yellow
and I try not to squeeze that last Full bit of charge into it
closer to yellow (or even Red, heaven forbid) longer it takes to charge...
- - -
from Battery University
Li-Ion does not need to be fully charged, nor is it desirable to do so...
in fact, it is better not to fully charge, because high voltage stresses the battery
every reduction of 0.10v% (charging) is said to double life cycle of battery
-charging the li-ion cell to 4.2v expect 300-500 discharge cycles
-charging the li-ion cell to 4.1v expect 600-1000 discharge cycles

so, charging the battery to 4.1v (not full 4.2v) will double the life of your battery ¿
- - -
if I can, I charge mine -- guess the range is around 3.8v-4.1v
I run mine like an old lawn mower and I am at 9 months ownership mark
and as far as I can tell, it looks and performs just as the day I got it...

vape≈hard / vape≈true

 

[pufZeppelin]

My wrap came in...now I just need to find something that matches it for the top.

hey now, that's a darn cool looking wrap !
maybe one of these fancy doo-dadds would look good...

- $3.03 GS-H5LED Bottom Coil Clearomizer (3.0ml) - blue / 2.4ohm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

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[herb]

...battery longevity {MVP & VV V3}


I try not to EVER let mine get to Yellow
and I try not to squeeze that last Full bit of charge into it
closer to yellow (or even Red, heaven forbid) longer it takes to charge...
- - -
from Battery University
Li-Ion does not need to be fully charged, nor is it desirable to do so...
in fact, it is better not to fully charge, because high voltage stresses the battery
every reduction of 0.10v% (charging) is said to double life cycle of battery
-charging the li-ion cell to 4.2v expect 300-500 discharge cycles
-charging the li-ion cell to 4.1v expect 600-1000 discharge cycles

so, charging the battery to 4.1v (not full 4.2v) will double the life of your battery ¿
- - -
if I can, I charge mine -- guess the range is around 3.8v-4.1v
I run mine like an old lawn mower and I am at 9 months ownership mark
and as far as I can tell, it looks and performs just as the day I got it...

Vape≈hard / Vape≈true

I read all that before and since yours is alive and well it's worth noting , however , I am one that likes to read about it from as many different sources as I can find never just a couple , all I have seen on these forums is from Battery University.

 

[pufZeppelin]

Finally getting caught up on this thread! Yesterday, ECF was almost unusable for me.

I must say, as much as I love my Maraxus and Nemesis clones, my MVP is still my go to mod. Much easier to push the vape button,
and the battery life is wonderful compared to them.
Will definitely need to get a spare MVP!

yes , jeez ! ECF got all wonker'd- what like 2-3 months ago - (maybe longer)
and it still has not recovered, then the last couple days it's been like trying to ride your bicycle in the sand on the beach...

- - -

I try and step away from my MVP, just to show myself that I am not dependent on it, BUT IT's HARD TO DO !

my other stuff is OK, but not enuff output, doesn't last long enuff, cool features -- blah, blah, blah

waaaaaaaay back in the day... September was when you looked forward to seeing
the new model cars come out, now I am waiting for the new model electronic cigs to hit showrooms...

 

[pufZeppelin]

I read all that before and since yours is alive and well it's worth noting , however , I am one that likes to read about it from as many different sources as I can find
never just a couple , all I have seen on these forums is from Battery University.

yepper
couldn't agree more with ya

what I wrote is just what I do... no more, no less

with the lifespan and everybody changing, losing, braking, it makes it tuff
to evaluate and throw a rope around any concrete terms...

guess like most, I feel it seems right, so I do it that way

 

[doghair]

Alligator wrappy ...

 

[wattageous]

Just wanna add a bit of my experience on Li-ion battery charging. From what I've gathered for the past few years of stretching and maintaining mobilephones batteries, there is a routine of draining it down to red/0% and fully charging it once a month. For daily or normal usage, it's best to just top it off everyday.

I'll give this a try in time to come since I just got my MVP and see how it goes.

 

[Capt.shay]

I read all that before and since yours is alive and well it's worth noting , however , I am one that likes to read about it from as many different sources as I can find never just a couple , all I have seen on these forums is from Battery University.

With all due respect Herb, your science is flawed. Three real world test is no sample what so ever. Hard science says charge frequently. You can give me 100 users who have two year old MVP's who only charged them when they were so low they shut off and I am still going with science.

If you don't like battery university ( I hate them) then read ANY other source and draw your conclusion from hard science rather than a minute sample. They all say to keep them at a higher state of charge. So either all the experts are wrong or it is a good idea to charge early for optimum battery life. Now, if you want to get in to a rumble royal with some chemo-electro geeks, get in to a discussion about just how much it actually helps. No one seems to agree on that at all. Some say a little and some say a lot and they are all convinced they are right!

 

[Katya]

I read all that before and since yours is alive and well it's worth noting , however , I am one that likes to read about it from as many different sources as I can find never just a couple , all I have seen on these forums is from Battery University.

Don't overcharge and don't over discharge.

Ask Ars: What is the best way to use a Li-ion battery? | Ars Technica

For long-term storage they should be charged to 50% capacity. Never let them discharge completely.

 

[herb]

:

yepper
couldn't agree more with ya

what I wrote is just what I do... no more, no less

with the lifespan and everybody changing, losing, braking, it makes it tuff
to evaluate and throw a rope around any concrete terms...

guess like most, I feel it seems right, so I do it that way

Now I feel even more confident in your methods because you most likely have read and researched this topic from other places and not solely from Battery University, very cool.

 

[clnire]

With all due respect Herb, your science is flawed. Three real world test is no sample what so ever. Hard science says charge frequently. You can give me 100 users who have two year old MVP's who only charged them when they were so low they shut off and I am still going with science.

If you don't like battery university ( I hate them) then read ANY other source and draw your conclusion from hard science rather than a minute sample. They all say to keep them at a higher state of charge. So either all the experts are wrong or it is a good idea to charge early for optimum battery life. Now, if you want to get in to a rumble royal with some chemo-electro geeks, get in to a discussion about just how much it actually helps. No one seems to agree on that at all. Some say a little and some say a lot and they are all convinced they are right!

I work with dogs. Training and competition. We all know there is no agreement in training methods. You could have 100 trainers in the same room and they would all disagree. Few would admit it depends on the dog and the person. So do your research, know your battery, and do what gives you the results you want. You don't know what will happen in 3/6/9 montjs from now? Neither does anyone else really. Depends on how you use your battery, what atty you use, what ohms, etc. Too many variables to say x works for sure, y fails for sure. JMHO.

Flame suit on ...

 

[herb]

With all due respect Herb, your science is flawed. Three real world test is no sample what so ever. Hard science says charge frequently. You can give me 100 users who have two year old MVP's who only charged them when they were so low they shut off and I am still going with science.

If you don't like battery university ( I hate them) then read ANY other source and draw your conclusion from hard science rather than a minute sample. They all say to keep them at a higher state of charge. So either all the experts are wrong or it is a good idea to charge early for optimum battery life. Now, if you want to get in to a rumble royal with some chemo-electro geeks, get in to a discussion about just how much it actually helps. No one seems to agree on that at all. Some say a little and some say a lot and they are all convinced they are right!

And with all due respect to you Capt , i didn't claim anything scientific or say anything with certainty so i don't know how my science could be flawed , all i did was say i was going to ask these three individuals about their charging methods/routines . Talking to these individuals is just the beginning , certainly far from a conclusion about anything .

Every battery discussion i have seen brings up links to Battery University , all i want is more info from other sources , if you or others have derived info from other sources please say so , by nature i am skeptical about claims that come from one source .

If info is derived from many other sources that's something i am interested in, but i have not seen it .

Don't take my comments the wrong way , i am not criticizing anybody as I'm sure your quite experienced and know your stuff as do others .

 

[garyoa1]

What we forget is it also depends on the quality of the battery itself. Even the best battery will have lemons. Even the worst batteries will have winners. So a lot also depends on the luck of the draw.

 

[herb]

Don't overcharge and don't over discharge.

Ask Ars: What is the best way to use a Li-ion battery? | Ars Technica

For long-term storage they should be charged to 50% capacity. Never let them discharge completely.

Thank you, now i hear people saying li po batteries and lithium ion batteries , what are we dealing with here lol.