Ithaka twisted quad coils 6 ohms

[Bishopheals]

Here it is a revised way of making twisted coils. In this video I show you how to make a simple twist quad coil using 32 and 34 gauge kanthol wires. Ohmed out each coil at 1.3 on multi meter then minus .1 for internal resistance equals together .64 ohms.


Enjoy guys.
LIVE HARD AND VAPE HARD!!!!

 

[subver]

Thanks bishop, looks like I've got another build to add to my list! Can't wait to try it! Gonna watch this tomorrow morning. What are your thoughts on ribbon vs twisted wire?

 

[Bishopheals]

I talk about it in video

 

[subver]

I need to learn to stop asking you these questions before I watch the video haha, sorry, thanks Bishop!

 

[Outdated]

Thanks bish, that priming wick tip solve the problem that i got earlier

 

[Bishopheals]

I have to say these coils are amazing. Mmm

 

[subver]

Finally got a chance to watch it.. nice!
Was there a reason for the 2 different size wires? I think I've only got 32gauge kanthal right now (I might have 30 as well.. gotta check my stash) so I was thinking about trying this with just 32 gauge wires.

Of course I have some ribbon wire in the mail, too!

But today my second Ithaka should be delivered and I'm checking Michaels after I get out of work today for some Martha Stewart hemp cotton yarn, then I'll be in the money! Gotta try these twisted duals first! I've also get that madvapes ohm reader on it's way as well.. that will make things a bit easier, too... very exciting, it feels like Christmas.


I still gotta try these microcoils I keep reading about.

 

[subver]

I finally got around to trying twisted duals, but ran into an issue.
I'm using 2 32g wires for the twisting.. Beautiful twisted wire. I measure out 1.4ohm pieces and then weld them to 30g Nickel.
I wrap my coils... they are perfect, FORGETABOUTIT... but then I measure the ohms and they both read about 2.6

So now I'm not sure what's going on... the twisted wire was 1.4 but with the nickel legs it's 2.6..

Actually.. as I type this I think I figured it out... I can't cheat and use a welder.. It's probably only welded to ONE wire... oh snap... looks like I'll be twisting again tonight!

Ah well.. off to round 2... I hope my twisted joints aren't going to be too big.. that was always my one gripe about twisting. Good thing I bought that spare Ithaka, because if I just tried to do this on my main Ithaka I'd be completely vapeless now!

So anyway, I'll leave this post here in case anyone else sees it... welding + twisted wire looks like a no-no!

Edit: actually that might not be true.. Keep reading.

 

[subver]

Ok, quick update - it's not the welder, there is something else going on.
I twister 2 more coils.. 1.4ohm each, 32g twisted kanthal and 30g nickel. The problem is, if I test the coil at the twisted joints it read 1.4, but if I test it at the very ends of the nickel wire it's 1.8ohm! And I set the dual coils up and tested the Ithaka on my atty ohm meter and it read 2.6! It jumped around if I pushed the coils around as well.

I double checked to make sure I didn't use kanthal wire for the NR and I definitely used Nickel.

Do I need thicker Nickel maybe? Why would it read different ohms in different spots on the nickel? And why would it be even higher with dual coils on ithaka? I'm so confused! I do that with regular coils and it's the same all throughout the nickel wire.

Any thoughts?

 

[subver]

If I measure the coils together by their nickel ends it's about 1.2ohm... Very weird.. Ithaka set up read 2.6 on my atty ohm meter... Maybe it was some kind of short? Not sure what the atty meter from mad vapes reads with a short though..

The other things still don't make sense to me though.. There's gotta be something I'm missing here.. Sorry for the wall of text!

 

[Aal_]

if you have bad readings after coiling, that won't help you much, because a lot of things can happen. Just make sure you have consistent readings with the multimeter, and then it is all fiddling from there. twisted wires can touch, or not enough grounding or twists coming loose etc...

 

[subver]

I don't think it's the multimeter, it works good on other coils and wires, and was consistent in different spots, it's just the further down the nickel legs the higher the ohms seemed to get.. very strange.
I tested the ohm meter from madvapes too which I just got today - there had to have been some other problem, but I'm gonna try this setup again tomorrow - it had to have been something stupid I overlooked somehow!
Perhaps it was the twisted joints!

 

[Bishopheals]

let me know ill see if I give you a hand tomorrow. I been swamped this weekend at Fluid Vapor release and coils.

 

[subver]

Thanks Bishop. I'm probably gonna give it another shot tonight when I get home from work.. I had to have made some kind of mistake I overlooked!

 

[subver]

Ok so I finally got my dual twisted coils on Ithaka... 0.74 ohm
I still had that issue where the ohms rise slightly toward the end of the nickel.. strange indeed.

Anyway... Hmm yes I do like this. It seems to heat up slightly slower, but the vape feels much heartier.. hard to describe.. like there's "more" to it.
I'm liking it, I'll have to keep vaping it though. I still have issues fitting the twisted joints in the ceramic, though - part of the reason I got my little wire welder. It all fit, though, despite the wicks fraying up a bunch in the channels.

Bishop did you find that it heats up slightly slower? I mean there IS more metal to heat up, so it makes sense.
Very nice, though... Next time I will shoot for 0.6 ohms, though.

 

[Bishopheals]

yes it will heat up slower compared to a 34 gauge wire or 36. the lower gauge you go you loose quickness in lighting but gain more flavor and taste. its a preference since folks asked me to maximize on flavor and to do that need to use a lower gauge wire.

 

[subver]

yes it will heat up slower compared to a 34 gauge wire or 36. the lower gauge you go you loose quickness in lighting but gain more flavor and taste. its a preference since folks asked me to maximize on flavor and to do that need to use a lower gauge wire.

Yep, I'm gonna order some 34 gauge Kanthal as well and try again, but I definitely like the setup! Thanks for the video Bishop.

What are your thoughts on the ohm/nickel length thing? My joints are definitely very tight, and it doesn't happen on regular coils.. just very weird that any length of nickel would add to the ohm rating, the only thing I can think of is the resistance wire being much thicker than the NR wire - I'm not sure how that all works, though.. Maybe as an experiment I'll try using twisted nickel as the NR wire, just to test the ohms compared to the other setup..

 

[imeothanasis]

nickel wires add 0,1-0,2 more ohms to your coil sub, so if you want to make an 1,5ohm coil then better make an 1,3-1,4 ohm so the total will be at 1,5 ohm

 

[subver]

nickel wires add 0,1-0,2 more ohms to your coil sub, so if you want to make an 1,5ohm coil then better make an 1,3-1,4 ohm so the total will be at 1,5 ohm

Interesting.. maybe I just never noticed when I was testing regular coils before? I was almost certain the nickel was adding more to the twisted wires, but I suppose that doesn't make sense, does it?

Well I'm glad I scrapped my first twisted dual coil build when there was actually nothing wrong with it woops

 

[subver]

Been vaping these twisted duals tonight some more and I'm loving it. Huuuge clouds, great taste.. So far so good! Thanks again Bishop.