It's time to make my own flavors!!!!

[atticus1976]

Hello All!

So I've been vaping now for about 2yrs. Ive feel in love with some of the premium flavors and I've spent now thousands of dollars on juice... My wife has now gave me an ultimatum, either make my own juice or STOP... (Im taking money away from her shoe and purse addiction). So now like a good husband I'm going to try my hand at making my own flavors. I found a link to unflavored ejuice and so I bought a Gallon of 12mg and 18mg 50/50 blends. Ive also purchased a hand full of flavors from TPA. So now I'm stuck and I'm not sure what to do. Ive been mixing and adding flovors but they just dont come out right. Some come out to strong and some come out to weak, never right for taste. I downloaded one of the calculators but I'm having trouble following it with what im using. Has anyone ever used unflavored premix and followed a recipe calculator successfully? If so would you mind helping a brother out?

Thank you all in advance!

Atticus1976

 

[Rat2chat2]

There are so many wonderful threads on DIY and you should start reading them to get a good understanding. Here is the calculator that might help you with the premix recipes. DIY E-Liquid Combining Calculator

You are a smart man for listening to your wife. You know she is always right. Good luck to ya and don't hesitate to ask questions on the DIY threads. The people here are so wonderful and have helped me so much. Welcome to ecf and the wonderful world of DIY. It is a lot of fun and you can without a doubt save big bucks.

 

[Huckleberried]

I use the ejuicemeup calculator. Works great! Plug in the values of your nic, flavor percentages, etc... it calculates everything for you. It's a free download from a generous member of the forum.

 

[Vaslovik]

Well just to offer my .02, what I did was get a 50 ml graduated cylinder, and some 100 ml Erlenmeyer flasks for making 100 ml batches. Percentages are easy to work out that way. If you want 12 mg nic juice you add 12 ml of 100 mg/ml nic. I put the nic and flavorings in the graduated cylinder, which totals up the ml, dump that in the flask then add my PG/VG 60/40 until I have it up to the 100 ml line on the flask.

Works for me

 

[Cloud Junky]

About time! I been waiting on your free samples

 

[DetraMental]

So you've already got your nic base figured out and your problem is figuring out the flavor percentages? Right? The way I do it is to get to know my flavors one by one. I mix a 1 ml version using a 10% flavoring solution to start out with on my flavors. It's usually the strongest route. This way you get to know those flavors intimately. Some are good for mixing with others as bases and you'll use smaller percentages, but you'll only find this out by getting to know them. Example: Vanilla Custard with Cinnamon will require a higher percentage of vanilla custard than cinnamon because the cinnamon is just a flavoring added to the custard. You wouldn't want them the same strength. I don't have the TPA versions yet but I have used the Flavor west so the percentages are different in that I'd use 15% Vanilla custard to 5% cinnamon for that version. Strawberries and Cream is another example. You'd use more cream than strawberry because the strawberry is just the flavoring to the cream. You may not like your flavors at 10% like I do which is as high as I go with any of them from TPA, 0.1 up to 10%. You'll have to discern the flavors for yourself. I hope this helps some. If you'd tell us what you're trying to make and with what we might be able to help some. Tell us what you've tried and at what %.

 

[RocketPuppy]

Atticus Finch?
Here's a pretty awesome flavor percentage chart. Google will translate the German. https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr..._hQ6Fu8HdEwwR2dLRUJlVjlabEN1NG1ucktuUVE&gid=7
Personally, I test to find the percentages that work best for me, which end up being much different than suggested. I bought a poop-load of 5ml bottles and add 2ml of pg/vg/nic. With a 1ml syringe, I add 3%, 5%, 10% of one flavor to each bottle. I shake like crazy and drip. It seems very time consuming and costly, but it helps me determine many things.
• at what percentage I like each flavor, like what flavors are much more pronounced or weaker
• which flavors work well alone or as a base and which flavors work as additions
• what flavors I actually like (Many of the ry4 recipes that I originally made had something off, but I couldn't figure it out. When I tried the flavors individually, I realized one particular caramel was ruining my first juices.)
• because I know what flavors I don't like now, an entire mix won't be wasted

I do my testing for percentages testers without nic, but nic can affect taste.

 

[RocketPuppy]

Despite the initial time consumption and cost, I can say with certainty that it has saved me both time and money now that I have this information. Before I did this, I easily wasted many ounces of mixed yuckyness.
I wish I could give credit to the person, but I forgot who it was. They do something similar, but instead of using different bottles, they begin with 3% flavor. If it's too weak, then they add 2% more to the same bottle and continue adding to the same bottle with low percentages. This would definitely be more cost effective.

 

[Heabob]

As you have been off the analogs for 2 years, you're taste buds have recovered, most likely.

Weaker juice can still be vaped as is, or, you can add a little bit at a time to improve.

Single flavor fruits don't quite hit the spot for me so I always add some cream, vanilla, Vanilla Custard, or NY Cheesecake as mixers.
They help to soften the fruit a bit, and give more body/depth. (some will add a little sweetness also)
Especially if they are too strong.
And you can also dilute the stronger ones with some unflavored base.

Make small batch for testing and start low on flavorings to find the sweet spot first.
Easier to add than take away...

Use 0 nic PG/VG for testing to not waste expensive nic base.

 

[natchez]

One thing I have found is that flavor percentages and nicotine strength needed may well vary depending upon the wattage at which it will be vaped. Higher wattage = needing somewhat less flavoring/nic in my experience. More heavily flavored juices that do well in basic low wattage devices may be overwhelming in sub-ohm high wattage set-ups. I have not seen a guide here for this, but if anyone has some rough flavoring adjustment by wattage guidelines please post them. IMHO it might help if you shared your typical hardware set-up when you let folks know what you are wanting to mix. For example, I reduce my fruit flavors that taste about right on a 2 ohm atomizer set-up about 10% in strength when I mix for a 1.3 ohm atomizer set-up on, both on a mechanical mod. If you are on a variable voltage set-up this is, of course, less of an issue.

 

[Heabob]

One thing I have found is that flavor percentages and nicotine strength needed may well vary depending upon the wattage at which it will be vaped. Higher wattage = needing somewhat less flavoring/nic in my experience. More heavily flavored juices that do well in basic low wattage devices may be overwhelming in sub-ohm high wattage set-ups. I have not seen a guide here for this, but if anyone has some rough flavoring adjustment by wattage guidelines please post them. IMHO it might help if you shared your typical hardware set-up when you let folks know what you are wanting to mix. For example, I reduce my fruit flavors that taste about right on a 2 ohm atomizer set-up about 10% in strength when I mix for a 1.3 ohm atomizer set-up on, both on a mechanical mod. If you are on a variable voltage set-up this is, of course, less of an issue.

So true,

I'm using 1.8 ohm micro coils with cotton balls on a Provari and Vamo.
Some flavors have harsh TH at lower volts, (I'm at 0-2mg nic now).
If going to high, I get a burnt taste, so I adjust accordingly.
Love my VV mods.
I've been using lower and lower % in my juice lately.

Since so many juice types, percentages, and equipment, are used, it would probably be difficult to make a guide...