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The only type of coil heads I rebuilt were protank for the wife years ago and they had just regular res wire, but you may be right. I think when areas are tight and there are no screws for trapping, the nr wire reduces heat or something

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I also believe that re-coiling the Aspire stuff (BVC and/or Nauti) may require it too. I'm not positive of that though.

I'm very familiar with res/ no res wire, got tons of it, the ceramic cups in my Sophia dripper required them, and its the only wire I considered for rebuilding PT2 heads with.

I'm just going to get some 30ga 316 and see how that goes...
 

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I'm very familiar with res/ no res wire, got tons of it, the ceramic cups in my Sophia dripper required them, and its the only wire I considered for rebuilding PT2 heads with.

I'm just going to get some 30ga 316 and see how that goes...
Had the v1 penelope and had to use it, that along with my shredded fingertips (from those super fine threads) was very memorable

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I'm just posting this in a few threads because I keep reading the peeps seem a little shy about trying TEMP CONTROL
it is just a simple little deal, a few button clicks and you're in TC trying it
not like it is going to melt down on ya or foul up your gear - it is simple and either you like or ya don't (but worth a try) ;) :D

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My question: is there any real reason I should use temp control? I vape at mostly 1.5 - 1.8 ohms, occasionally lower but never under 1 ohm, at between 10-14 watts usually (mostly around 12). I take short shallow MtL draws, around 2 seconds. I don't get dry hits unless I run out of juice.

But, crucially, all my tanks are small, with small decks and small chimneys (mostly KF3 minis, but also others, like Goblin Mini, doggystyle). In order to use TC, I'd need to build (SS/N/T) coils with a LOT more wraps, which is really a huge, huge, pain in the patootie, and I like the vape less with these coils. I can barely cram an SS coil in there, and I'm really nervous about getting a short with these overlong coils.

Am I supposed to start subohming in order to be able to do TC, or is TC more something that is FOR people who subohm?
 

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Am I supposed to start subohming in order to be able to do TC, or is TC more something that is FOR people who subohm?
You are supposed to do whatever makes you happy and enjoy your vape. Nothing more, and nothing less.

If you want to try TC, it doesn't take a lot more wraps to build a coil in the proper resistance range. Use Steam Engine (or search around here in ECF) to help you find a build in the right range. Stick with SS or maybe Ti (don't dry burn red hot!); forget Ni. (That's my opinion there. Others may differ, but they'd be wrong. ;)) Don't try to match your current Kanthal resistance. That won't work for TC materials.

The attys that you are using are all fine with TC. TC builds will fit easily in them.

Just enjoy, be healthy, and be happy. There are advantages and disadvantages to everything.
 

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My question: is there any real reason I should use temp control? I vape at mostly 1.5 - 1.8 ohms, occasionally lower but never under 1 ohm, at between 10-14 watts usually (mostly around 12). I take short shallow MtL draws, around 2 seconds. I don't get dry hits unless I run out of juice.

But, crucially, all my tanks are small, with small decks and small chimneys (mostly KF3 minis, but also others, like Goblin Mini, doggystyle). In order to use TC, I'd need to build (SS/N/T) coils with a LOT more wraps, which is really a huge, huge, pain in the patootie, and I like the vape less with these coils. I can barely cram an SS coil in there, and I'm really nervous about getting a short with these overlong coils.

Am I supposed to start subohming in order to be able to do TC, or is TC more something that is FOR people who subohm?

Food for thought:

New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers

They say you can't tell when you cross that 470°F threshold by taste alone.

They may exist, but I don't know of a TC capable mod that doesn't have short protection.

Temco sells SS 316L wire down to 32 AWG. 8 wraps of 30 ga SS 316L, 2.5 mm ID should get you close to 1.2 Ohm. I use 7-8 spaced wraps of 28 gauge SS, 2.5mm ID, on a KFMv3 as well as in Joyetech CLR coils. You can ask around the forum for a suggested build to approximate your current vape density. Although there are still limitations, the resistance of a coil is not as important in TC. I didn't "sub ohm" until I tried TC and I still don't consider myself a cloud-chaser. <shrug>

If you decide to try TC, however, please try to go in with an open mind. Right now you seem dead set against it.
 

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Right now you seem dead set against it.

That would be actually be me. :blush:

Nothing against it, but to say that I'm satisfied with my vape would be an understatement. As far as I am into it, I can't imagine it's going to up and fail me now, especially since it's the exact same vape that I began with (so many moons ago).

I've got all the materials I need to last a lifetime, and simply lack the interest to change at this point. If I had reason TO change though, I absolutely would.

Of course I've seen the recent studies. I'm not saying that I think they're wrong, but I will say that they don't concern me. Life circumstances tell me that it will be something else that gets me eventually, and I'm just hoping that it's NOT the 30 35 (dayum!) years of heavy smoking that I did.

Stress is the most likely candidate at this point, if I were to venture a guess.

But I digress...:D
 

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That would be actually be me. :blush:

Nothing against it, but to say that I'm satisfied with my vape would be an understatement. As far as I am into it, I can't imagine it's going to up and fail me now, especially since it's the exact same vape that I began with (so many moons ago).

I've got all the materials I need to last a lifetime, and simply lack the interest to change at this point. If I had reason TO change though, I absolutely would.

Of course I've seen the recent studies. I'm not saying that I think they're wrong, but I will say that they don't concern me. Life circumstances tell me that it will be something else that gets me eventually, and I'm just hoping that it's NOT the 30 35 (dayum!) years of heavy smoking that I did.

Stress is the most likely candidate at this point, if I were to venture a guess.

But I digress...:D
Nuttin' wrong with that! :D

I was all in on TC before I saw that thread. I like it but that doesn't mean everyone has to come to the same conclusion. Just tried to answer the question. :)
 

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Nuttin' wrong with that! :D

I was all in on TC before I saw that thread. I like it but that doesn't mean everyone has to come to the same conclusion. Just tried to answer the question. :)

And you did! Very well done too, Jumpin'. :thumb:

I've noticed that some people are feeling bad, even embarrassed, that they haven't moved to TC. I find that amusing, given what most of us have to deal with on a daily basis.

Put it this way, I aspire to be concerned about such issues someday. ;):)
 

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Only five of my sixteen mods that are in use every day are TC capable. What if I tried TC and decided, OMG, I can't vape any other way now, What to do? At this point I don't want to have to switch over, however, recent posts I have read on how easy TC is, makes me want to give it a try, since I already have some SS wire I'm not using. :unsure:
 

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Only five of my sixteen mods that are in use every day are TC capable. What if I tried TC and decided, OMG, I can't vape any other way now, What to do? At this point I don't want to have to switch over, however, recent posts I have read on how easy TC is, makes me want to give it a try, since I already have some SS wire I'm not using. :unsure:

A conundrum, Paul - to be sure. :)

IF that happened, you could always try to work out a trade with someone. You've got 11, maybe trade them for 8 or 9 TC mods. Wins all around?
 

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Only five of my sixteen mods that are in use every day are TC capable. What if I tried TC and decided, OMG, I can't vape any other way now, What to do? At this point I don't want to have to switch over, however, recent posts I have read on how easy TC is, makes me want to give it a try, since I already have some SS wire I'm not using. :unsure:
I don't think it necessarily has to be an all-or-nothing thing. I still switch to VW mode every now and then. Not for long, but for a few tugs on occasion. Not to mention that some hardware just works better in VW - my KF4 clone for example.

Going all-in is a possibility tho! :laugh:
 

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Why not the KF4 clone?

The KF4's (clone or original) were/are known to have potential issues w/ TC vaping. The 'spring' in the 510 connection caused minor fluctuations in Ωs driving TC mods a bit crazy. One of the 'fixes' was a 'gold' spring to replace the original for better conductivity.
 

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OK, well that settles it I guess. I doubt if any of my rebuildables would be suitable, and the few tanks I have that use Nauti mini coils, I have invested fairly heavily in getting a good sized stash of coils. I think it's too late to turn around now, for me anyway. :)
 
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