I guess it depends on your definition of the normal vaper is, don't you think? I wouldn't assume that the normal, "Hey I have a Life" vaper is going to vape 24/7, and will more than likely use theirs as they would normal cigarettes. I don't people here, people that spend time in an ecig forum, or run an ecig publication, can be considered normal vapers.
Johnson Creek Vea - Under represented here?
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Because you have a review business that makes money through affiliate linking. Your intentions are automatically questionable. I'm not saying it's fair, it's just what it is. If you want to come here and chat, that's fine, but if you need a platform to expand your business, then there is a mechanism to get approved as a reviewer. Looking at your posts, you push Blu, JC and Apollo - which incidentally are all on your "affiliate shoppe" on your wesite. The newb forum is not an appropriate place for people who do business with vendors to express "opinions". No hate. Just facts.
ETA: in the meantime your original post was edited by moderators to remove the link to your site, and you modified your avatar to remove the reference to it. That doesn't change the facts, however.
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Well the problem is that 650mAh is just that, 650 mili Amp hours unless it is plugged in via the passthrough.
Then too your avatar reeked of affiliation, so you set youself up for that.
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No idea why someone would say something like that, other than the equipment you're recommending is over-priced, under-powered, yesterday's news vertical coil carto with pillow stuffing in it but it's the overlooked next great breakthrough in vaping?
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No hate on my part, I just hate to see bad and wrong information published. You have made a bunch of posts this morning and nearly all of them dealt with Blu & Johnson Creek and extolled their virtues. Then you claim, repeatedly, that the VEA 650 mah battery can go for a few days between charges - no way for the average vaping person. Given the prolific posting about Blu and JC, and the unrealistic claims made in your "magazine", I think you may have ulterior motives myself but I was trying to be polite.
There are lots of shills and predators out there trying to pry money from folks trying to kick the habit - many of us are sensitive to this...
There are lots of shills and predators out there trying to pry money from folks trying to kick the habit - many of us are sensitive to this...
No hate here, but this is a forum where people come for help and to learn. Your information is misleading and wrong, and might lead a new vapor to purchase equipment that then is not going to deliver what they believe it will. That's just not right or fair, and it's bad for both the individual and the community.
Im a bit surprised at the rudeness of some of the posts too. Its a bit unusual as this is normally a very friendly place.
We all vape differently and for some 650mah will last a long time, and for others it wont. Its as simple as that. I dont judge the opinion of a person based upon how quickly they can vape a battery dry. I found your post and review to be excellent. I also value the opinion from those that have actually tried a product more than that of those that just come to bash something they havent seen.
Yes, there are a LOT of similarities between the Vea and the ego / kgo and their clones. I just see this as a little higher end in the fit and finish department which justifies paying a little more. Thats my subjective opinion though, and people that shop price are not wrong to do so either.
Having actually vaped one, I can say that aside from the defective cartos I got, the performance was excellent. The flavor was spot on, and the heat and TH were some of the best Ive had out of an ego class device. I wouldnt hesitate to recommend it to somebody looking for an ego / kgo starter kit.
You're admitting that "its not fair" yet you persist in doing it. Wouldn't make sense that I would discuss things I know something about? As a Blu user, a Vea user, and a Tgo user, wouldn't it make sense that I would visit and participate in those threads?
I don't know how many people you know in the area of publishing but let me assure you, if anyone depended on making any serious money from linking affiliates they would go broke in a heartbeat. We don't do it to make money, if anything, we've done it because we've been asked by the brand to do it. We certainly don't expect to make money from it, nor have we.
There are 43 million American smokers in this country, 43 MILLION. in 2012! After 50 years of publishing the dangers of smoking there are still 1/6 people smoking in this country alone. WTF? We, my brother and I, decided to take our experience in the tech industry publishing and try to make people aware of a better way. My grandparents died from Emphysema, both sides, from smoking, my brother has had a heart attack from smoking, at 55, and my wife smoked for 30 years and would drive to the store at 3AM if she ran out of cigarettes. Both my parents are dying from smoking... WHY wouldn't I want to publish about eCigarettes? Why do you automatically think its ALL about money? Have you ever meant anyone who has done something because it seemed like the right thing to do? Seriously man, you have a lot of hate and cynicism in you.
People that automatically assume others have some nefarious motive are truly sad people. Why not, for once, give someone the benefit of the doubt? If you could "help" in getting people to switch from tobacco to eCigarettes, wouldn't you want to do it? If you could make a few bucks to offset the cost of running the server, wouldn't you?
My brother and I (I'm 58 by the way) have a design business, Spinfuel Design Studios, in New Hampshire (I spent most of my time in Florida working with models as I am the photographer/writer for Spinfuel), so we don't even make our living from Spinfuel eCigs Magazine.
Man, I came here today to discuss eCigs, make some friends, share and gain some information... and within an hour of simply stating that the Vea is under represented here people like you come out of the woodwork. YOU say it's not fair, yet you do it. Why? Why can't YOU be the exception? Why can't you be the one to say "Hey, wait a minute, maybe this is not some nefarious plan to make money off us?"
I swear to god, just when I think I have found something where the rules, http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-forum-rules/51178-forum-rules.html actually are enforced, people like you come along and chase me away.
Fine, I'm done.
I don't know how many people you know in the area of publishing but let me assure you, if anyone depended on making any serious money from linking affiliates they would go broke in a heartbeat. We don't do it to make money, if anything, we've done it because we've been asked by the brand to do it. We certainly don't expect to make money from it, nor have we.
There are 43 million American smokers in this country, 43 MILLION. in 2012! After 50 years of publishing the dangers of smoking there are still 1/6 people smoking in this country alone. WTF? We, my brother and I, decided to take our experience in the tech industry publishing and try to make people aware of a better way. My grandparents died from Emphysema, both sides, from smoking, my brother has had a heart attack from smoking, at 55, and my wife smoked for 30 years and would drive to the store at 3AM if she ran out of cigarettes. Both my parents are dying from smoking... WHY wouldn't I want to publish about eCigarettes? Why do you automatically think its ALL about money? Have you ever meant anyone who has done something because it seemed like the right thing to do? Seriously man, you have a lot of hate and cynicism in you.
People that automatically assume others have some nefarious motive are truly sad people. Why not, for once, give someone the benefit of the doubt? If you could "help" in getting people to switch from tobacco to eCigarettes, wouldn't you want to do it? If you could make a few bucks to offset the cost of running the server, wouldn't you?
My brother and I (I'm 58 by the way) have a design business, Spinfuel Design Studios, in New Hampshire (I spent most of my time in Florida working with models as I am the photographer/writer for Spinfuel), so we don't even make our living from Spinfuel eCigs Magazine.
Man, I came here today to discuss eCigs, make some friends, share and gain some information... and within an hour of simply stating that the Vea is under represented here people like you come out of the woodwork. YOU say it's not fair, yet you do it. Why? Why can't YOU be the exception? Why can't you be the one to say "Hey, wait a minute, maybe this is not some nefarious plan to make money off us?"
I swear to god, just when I think I have found something where the rules, http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-forum-rules/51178-forum-rules.html actually are enforced, people like you come along and chase me away.
Fine, I'm done.
So your opinion, that the Vea is the wrong piece of equipment is the RIGHT opinion, correct? That MY opinion, after living with it for a few weeks, letting others here in the office live it, and comparing it against many other devices in the office, I am the one that is wrong, is that it? Tell me something Cherryblossum, do you own one? Have you used one? Are you vaping on one right now?
Since you're so very experienced in all this than obviously you haven't vaped a Vea, nor do you own one right? But because I do, I am the one in the wrong? Is that how it is here? Tell me, cause you know, I don't want step on toes here.
Since you're so very experienced in all this than obviously you haven't vaped a Vea, nor do you own one right? But because I do, I am the one in the wrong? Is that how it is here? Tell me, cause you know, I don't want step on toes here.
Say what? Because it had the name of my publication on it? That qualifies as "reeked of affiliation" ... affiliation of what exactly?
And how did I set myself up? Unless Johnson Creek changed their name to Spinfuel I'm at loss as to why you say something like that.
Done with you NGIB, done with you... I keep staring at the gun in your avatar, and then comparing it with my own. I created the photograph in my avatar, my photography, my model, my photoshop work. Same with you? Did you shoot that photo?
Now look at both of them, tell me NGIB, which would you rather surround yourself with, beautiful women or guns.
Yep, I thought so.
My opinion is very simple. Don't tell people that a 650 mah battery is going to last them a few days without charging. That is a claim that could seriously be a problem for new vapers. New vapers live day to day and try to do their best not to smoke. An individual reading your review might well believe they only need one battery and that it will last days. What happens when a new vaper's equipment doesn't do what they expect/need? They often go back to smoking. A new vaper leaving the house believing his new battery will last him for a few days may well end up buying another pack of smokes because he suddenly has nothing to vape.
It's very important to be very realistic with reviews because little things often cause new vapers to give up. A person looking for something with a large juice capacity and a long battery life might well buy the product based on your review. Then become frustrated with the very small capacity and battery life and return to smoking never to quit.
My beef is not with the brand you're reviewing, as I said before there are dozen's of disposable ego/kgo/clones and they do their job well enough. But they ARE disposables, they do not have a long battery life, and 1ml is average.
Sorry but you still don't get it! You are running a business that reviews the products that we use. This places a higher standard on you than what the normal vapor experiences on a forum. So if you're a professional ... be professional.
1ML is average, to new vapers who's only experience so far is Green Smoke, South Beach, Pro Smoke, Blu, and on an on... really? Cause I'd like to fit 1ML in any of those cartos, let me tell you.
It's obvious that you're not aware that the Vea is not only Lithium-Ion based, and the micro-circuitry inside manages the battery power much better than ego clones, and that the cartomizer built for the Vea also extends the life of the battery? No, guess not, cause I'm sure you've not bothered to research the Vea since before right now because your interest level has been nil.
But sure, go ahead and make judgement calls all day long on things you don't have a full grasp on. Much like the guy here that assumed I am "new" to vaping and clearly don't know what I'm talking about. Whatever.
I do hope people take my buying advice, but not just mine. They should seek out others that actually have experience with it, like I do. Ya know Cherry, I don't think I'd make a buying decision from someone telling to buy or not buy when they have zero experience with it. Like yourself. Then again, as the owner of one, as the user of one, and as a fan of one, I think I can speak to it.
Back peddle all you want, but your snarky comments stand as they are. An apology from you might carry more weight though.
It's obvious that you're not aware that the Vea is not only Lithium-Ion based, and the micro-circuitry inside manages the battery power much better than ego clones, and that the cartomizer built for the Vea also extends the life of the battery? No, guess not, cause I'm sure you've not bothered to research the Vea since before right now because your interest level has been nil.
But sure, go ahead and make judgement calls all day long on things you don't have a full grasp on. Much like the guy here that assumed I am "new" to vaping and clearly don't know what I'm talking about. Whatever.
I do hope people take my buying advice, but not just mine. They should seek out others that actually have experience with it, like I do. Ya know Cherry, I don't think I'd make a buying decision from someone telling to buy or not buy when they have zero experience with it. Like yourself. Then again, as the owner of one, as the user of one, and as a fan of one, I think I can speak to it.
Back peddle all you want, but your snarky comments stand as they are. An apology from you might carry more weight though.
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They could, at the very least, cover DOAs. I'm all for new ventures, products, etc., but over-embellished marketing is very dangerous for new vapors. I fell prey to a heavily overpriced ecig vendor in the beginning, but luckily got out without a whole lot of financial damage.
Yup, my gun, my photo. On your way back from FL, you're welcome to stop by and I'll let you shoot it. As far as beautiful women, been married to one for 35 years so I have been "surrounded" most of my life. You protest WAY to hard and you sure aren't doing your affiliates any favors...
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