Joyetech Evic VT 60 Watt

[JeremyR]

I would expect that little clearo to hit tp in a second at 30w. Not sure how you even made it close to 2 seconds. Lol.

Take and evod and hit it with 20w and you'll burn it almost instantly, this mega is basically the same thing. So it will run in full temp control while vaping. Allowing the most power it can take without dryhits.

 

[tchavei]

Mine kicks in instantly if I'm not sucking on it (erlp nano). That's how it's supposed to work.

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Tony

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[becosemsaida]

Well i went a diferent way........ got me an SX Mini..... These things are as diferent as they can come.... Same setup, same Res, juice and temp. and the SX is smooth (and less powerful) the VT is more agressive on delivering power. I think that it's because it starts at 30W. and the SX has a smoother ramp. Both hit the TC mark.... The Vt however keeps a tighter power output then the SX, it's much more "active" in maintaining the temp therefore it gives you a warmer but harsher vape. I think that is one of the problems with this device: it's too rough, should be more finetuned. The SX however is a very quality flavourful vape, smooth as it can be. Still have to play around some more with the SX but for now i can play and compare them both.

Having some minor issues with the VT though, firebutton sticks sometime, i think it forgets its settings on wake-up and gives me 60W of power and then "remembers" it should only be 30W..... Somebody knows how to do a hard reset on this ????

Beco

 

[USMCotaku]

Wait a minute, are some of you guys saying you can "feel" when TC is active during your hit??

That would be a total buzz kill. Either I have a numb tongue, or my eVic (and my DNA) regulates temperature unnoticeably ....honestly, it could be either one.

Generally, I can only feel it if my wicking is inadequate... As the wick dries out tc kicks up higher, wick catches up, vape returns, cycle, wash rinse repeat I get this effect on the occ coils mostly (stock and rebuilt).

 

[niterider]

Again, Temp control is not the problem. It's the wicking that's not keeping up is what makes it an issue. These Ego One mega coils are horrible.

 

[cigatron]

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I think compared to straight voltage it is different for a new user. I don't notice an up and down in temp, but what is noticed is the temp cap. Instead of the coil temp running away its held

Air flow is how I vaped a single 28g coil at 8volts. Not enough air with-out a stiff lung pull the juice would start to burn. Same with temp control a stronger hit keeps it out of temp protect longer.

The benefit is if I want a light hit no problem, if I want a strong hit power lung it and I get a big hit. It adjusts to the air draw. I no longer have to physically control the temp with air.

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[cigatron]

Well i went a diferent way........ got me an SX Mini..... These things are as diferent as they can come.... Same setup, same Res, juice and temp. and the SX is smooth (and less powerful) the VT is more agressive on delivering power. I think that it's because it starts at 30W. and the SX has a smoother ramp. Both hit the TC mark.... The Vt however keeps a tighter power output then the SX, it's much more "active" in maintaining the temp therefore it gives you a warmer but harsher vape. I think that is one of the problems with this device: it's too rough, should be more finetuned. The SX however is a very quality flavourful vape, smooth as it can be. Still have to play around some more with the SX but for now i can play and compare them both.

Having some minor issues with the VT though, firebutton sticks sometime, i think it forgets its settings on wake-up and gives me 60W of power and then "remembers" it should only be 30W..... Somebody knows how to do a hard reset on this ????

Beco

I had harsh hits from the vt as well when I would let it sit for a while. Remembering that harsh hits typically = flooded wick or underpowered I moved the preheat from 30w to 40w....problem solved, unless I let it sit overnight. A few pulls clear it out, then I'm good for the whole day. The proper combination of tp and preheat settings make the vt hum. Fwiw, I can detect slight variations in temp as it bounces off of tp too but less so at 40w preheat than at 60w. Ymmv but it seems to me that maybe the preheat setting is what it fires at every time it drops below tp? Could it be doing that but we're just not seeing it due to display screen latency/refresh rate? Hmmm.

 

[Diver9543]

I've used mine with the eGo One tank and Ni coil since I got it on Tuesday afternoon. I was not as impressed with the flavor as I had hoped. Just a few minutes ago I decided to try the Ti coil. Wow, this is what I was wanting to have a hit to be. It is a difference between night and day. When I bought my unit they only had the Ni coils, so I bought a 5 pack. After trying the Ti coil, I went to my favorite site and ordered 2 5 packs. While there I also ordered some Ni coils for my Herakles to see how they will work out on the eVic. Color me happy with my eVic VT.

 

[MikeE3]

Guess I'll chime in..

Mine is still holding a solid .52 ohms ti and has not budged a bit since first reading. I installed it with the cold lock method.

I only had issue the first day or two till I figured out how it all worked, and caught a loose coil screw.

If your hitting temp protection too fast you may need to lower your wattage so it doesn't heat too fast to the limit. If you normally vape under 30w you will be vaping with straight temp control. It's not a problem. But tc is a little different to get used to anyway.

If you vape over 30w typically. It is possible to get the power and temp set such that temp protect doesn't kick in till the end of your vape. And like this, it vapes like kanthal meaning straight power.

Since I vape in stealth mode I don't really see temp protection and have good solid vape all the way through.

I have watched it in the mirror and it seems to hit temp protect quite often, but still provides a consistent and reliable vape.

Does Temp Protection really matter?? Does it change the vape quality? Only way I can not get it in Temp Protection mode is to take the stiffest lung hit ever on my RDA which isn't really my style.

I think the mod is doing what is should and folks are over thinking this device.

IMO I think Temp Protection cuts power when it goes over a certain temp. It does this in a fraction of a second and then restores power to try again a fraction later. All the while the coil is around the same temp (in general). IMO this device has been perfect for me with an average of 0.12 ni200 coils.

I don't really see all the rage with Ti. The Ego Mega Ti head was better because it has 4 juice ports (although tiny) vice the Ni200's two juice ports. Either way if you are hitting TC (all the time) and having a lousy vape with the Mega it is because of the head itself and not the mod. I think it should be clear by now that the Ego Mega stock heads are rather crappy and could have been done a little better.

I'm a low end vapor, not a tootle puffer, but I'm not a lung hitter and like some resistence on my draw. I'm using a KFL-Lite (not know to be an airy draw, eh?) w/ a .14Ω, 3mm, nickel coil. I too see temp protect cutting in and out - but my vape, flavor and volume is just fine for me. I like the positive feedback of a reasonable amout of vape on the exhale and I do get that.

The Evic is set at 30 watts and 410 F. On my DNA40 I use the same setup at 14 watts and 410 F. The Evic hits a bit harder and warmer but not so much that I don't like it. On the DNA I can hold the fire button 'in' without drawing and it take 6-7 seconds before I see Temp Protect. Not so on the the Evic. But even though the Evic is cycling on Temp Protect I see it varying the watts to maintain and not go over 410 F.

Overall I'm liking the Evic and as far as what I see on the display - well its just different than a DNA40 but still meets my needs and likes.

 

[USMCotaku]

So no shops around here carry any ti coils for the mega, but once shop just got some Ti wire in, so I bought that, and one of the regular kanthal ego coils, brought it home, striped it out, drilled out the holes a tiny bit (I think the kanthal coils already have slightly larger wick holes then the tc coils, not sure though) and rebuilt it with my new 26 gauge Ti.... Came out to .45 ohms, holding steady and the mega tank is working better then ever
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[Brian Fleming]

Wait a minute, are some of you guys saying you can "feel" when TC is active during your hit??

That would be a total buzz kill. Either I have a numb tongue, or my eVic (and my DNA) regulates temperature unnoticeably ....honestly, it could be either one.

I second that! The only time I can feel the temp change is when I have screwed up somewhere.....wicking problems, loose screw, ect. When my build is right, I never feel fluctuations. I have both the evic and an sx mini m as well, so I can compare my build when something feels off. Usually my mini will fluctuate the same way on the same atty and build when I compare them. Hate to say it, but its usually not the mod. I saved countless hours of troubleshooting and frustration when I started addressing the shortfalls in my builds, instead of blaming the mod.

 

[Brian Fleming]

Well i went a diferent way........ got me an SX Mini..... These things are as diferent as they can come.... Same setup, same Res, juice and temp. and the SX is smooth (and less powerful) the VT is more agressive on delivering power. I think that it's because it starts at 30W. and the SX has a smoother ramp. Both hit the TC mark.... The Vt however keeps a tighter power output then the SX, it's much more "active" in maintaining the temp therefore it gives you a warmer but harsher vape. I think that is one of the problems with this device: it's too rough, should be more finetuned. The SX however is a very quality flavourful vape, smooth as it can be. Still have to play around some more with the SX but for now i can play and compare them both.

Having some minor issues with the VT though, firebutton sticks sometime, i think it forgets its settings on wake-up and gives me 60W of power and then "remembers" it should only be 30W..... Somebody knows how to do a hard reset on this ????

Beco

I have both as well. I totally agree that they vape a little differently. However, they both do what they were built to do very well. I love my mini and would be devistated if I had to live without it...but...Im pretty sure I could be almost as happy with three evics and a couple decent rta's for the same price to replace the mini. As long as I never have to withstand another dry hit as long as I live, I will happily continue to vape on both of them.
I actually enjoy the fact that they vape differently.

 

[cigatron]

Just put two more VTs on order. Coop purchase for $94 shipped. Already have two extra STminis to mount up with Ti coils. Vape heaven...all of my other regulated mods are going on consignment at my local b&m.

 

[Bikenstein]

My Evic is reported as shipped from GB. Maybe 2 or 3 weeks now. My SX Mini keeps the temp very steady at 420 running 16 to 22j. I think the "aggressiveness" in the VT is the 30w minimum power applied to regulate. The SX and the VaporShark work well. The vape is different for each. I imagine the VT will be different still. Any recommendations on Ti wire?

 

[Bikenstein]

Well i went a diferent way........ got me an SX Mini..... These things are as diferent as they can come.... Same setup, same Res, juice and temp. and the SX is smooth (and less powerful) the VT is more agressive on delivering power. I think that it's because it starts at 30W. and the SX has a smoother ramp. Both hit the TC mark.... The Vt however keeps a tighter power output then the SX, it's much more "active" in maintaining the temp therefore it gives you a warmer but harsher vape. I think that is one of the problems with this device: it's too rough, should be more finetuned. The SX however is a very quality flavourful vape, smooth as it can be. Still have to play around some more with the SX but for now i can play and compare them both.

Having some minor issues with the VT though, firebutton sticks sometime, i think it forgets its settings on wake-up and gives me 60W of power and then "remembers" it should only be 30W..... Somebody knows how to do a hard reset on this ????

Beco

If the vape in the VT is warmer and harsher wouldn't that make you think it is over-shooting the temp? If I set the SX at 30j or even 25 it will overshoot the 420 temp setting by 20 degrees as it fights to keep it down. At anything around 20j it has no problem keepin it within a couple of degrees.

 

[Troll from behind]

Sorry guys, if this been explained before, it's a bloody long thread, but if I set this to heat the coil with 40 watts does it obey settings?


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[atroph]

Sorry guys, if this been explained before, it's a bloody long thread, but if I set this to heat the coil with 40 watts does it obey settings?


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As long as you keep enough airflow on the coil to keep it cooler than the set temp, then yes it will continuously pump 40W into your coil if in Temp mode. As for VW mode you it obeys as VW mode just keeps on pumping out the power.

 

[atroph]

If the vape in the VT is warmer and harsher wouldn't that make you think it is over-shooting the temp? If I set the SX at 30j or even 25 it will overshoot the 420 temp setting by 20 degrees as it fights to keep it down. At anything around 20j it has no problem keepin it within a couple of degrees.

Honestly I would negate the temperature setting (actual number) as it is relative across ALL devices. Just find something that you like and give the jog wheel a toggle when you need more or less.

I don't really look at the number but go by the vape. If it is super warm or poppy/crackly when I hit the fire button I immediately know I have too much and turn down the temp by at least 20 and try again. Once the atty resistance has settled I usually never have to touch the jog wheel again until I do another removal/re-install of the atty.

 

[Bikenstein]

Honestly I would negate the temperature setting (actual number) as it is relative across ALL devices. Just find something that you like and give the jog wheel a toggle when you need more or less.

I don't really look at the number but go by the vape. If it is super warm or poppy/crackly when I hit the fire button I immediately know I have too much and turn down the temp by at least 20 and try again. Once the atty resistance has settled I usually never have to touch the jog wheel again until I do another removal/re-install of the atty.

I understand a temp setting to be relative to the device. I don't know how close any come to actual temperature and you can't compare settings between devices. But if my SX had a minimum of 30w output in TC., it would be fighting crazy to regulate the temp I like.

 

[cigatron]

If the vape in the VT is warmer and harsher wouldn't that make you think it is over-shooting the temp? If I set the SX at 30j or even 25 it will overshoot the 420 temp setting by 20 degrees as it fights to keep it down. At anything around 20j it has no problem keepin it within a couple of degrees.

Hot harsh vapor production has always meant underpowered imo. Like with a soggy wick first thing in the morning or overdripping an rda. I know it doesn't SOUND right but the coolest your vapor will be is when your coil is converting liquid to vapor at the perfect temp. It's an evaporation process; similar to the one that cools your skin on a breezy day when you sweat. Boiling juice without complete evaporation can be almost as hot as overpowering but overpowering always brings on a burny taste while underpowering brings on harshness.