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Hi, I am not very into the technical side of vaping at all and simply enjoy it as a replacement for cigarettes without getting too involved in the science, until now. Today I purchased an evic-vtc mini e-cig with an ego one mega top. Despite some brief information from the store I am completely lost on how to get this ecig to perform how I'd like it to. It currently has a Ni atomiser inside and I would like to know the best settings for it. I have tried playing with the temperature and either get nothing out of it, a temperature control message or extreme popping and crackling. If anyone has any experience with these and could help that would be great thanks.

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    First things first. At the top of the screen, what does it say right above the temp? It should say Temp Ni since you said you are using the Ni coil. If it says anything else, we will need to change the mode, I can help you with that. Second, if that is correct then it seems like I needed mine set close to 550 with the Ni coil, I'm not using the Ni now so I am not positive, I know I had it higher than I do for the Ti coil though. So what temp are you currently set at?
     

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    If it is set right for the coil per my first post, then next set the temp fairly low, say around 400 and press the fire button momentarily. If there is no "sizzling" sound slowly bring the temp up and keep trying till you can here it. At this point it is heating up enough to vaporize the juice, though you may still want a higher temp. Now when you fire it you should see the protection message coming on and going back out. This is normal for the mod. Now try vaping it, and keep bringing the temp up a little at a time till you are happy with the way it vapes. Once you get to that point, you can then adjust the ramp up time to your preference by using the menu to set the wattage on the second line of the screen. Mine is at 20. This only controls the max wattage, mostly until the coil heats up, after that the wattage will stay quite about lower while vaping, just using enough to maintain the temp that you set.
     

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    First things first. At the top of the screen, what does it say right above the temp? It should say Temp Ni since you said you are using the Ni coil. If it says anything else, we will need to change the mode, I can help you with that. Second, if that is correct then it seems like I needed mine set close to 550 with the Ni coil, I'm not using the Ni now so I am not positive, I know I had it higher than I do for the Ti coil though. So what temp are you currently set at?
    That's correct, it says temp Ni. I am currently on 420 because anything above that and it starts crackling. I have tried it on 500+ and the crackling becomes very loud and harsh.
     

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    That's correct, it says temp Ni. I am currently on 420 because anything above that and it starts crackling. I have tried it on 500+ and the crackling becomes very loud and harsh.
    Hmm, well you should be able to hear it, but mine is not overly loud. How does it vape at 420?
     

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    Hmm, well you should be able to hear it, but mine is not overly loud. How does it vape at 420?
    Its not amazing at 420 to be honest but its at that temperature that the crackling is minimal but still there. Its hard to explain just how violent it sounds at 500+ which seems very abnormal after watching videos and reading how others have theirs set up. Like the chap I'm that second video ^ .. He takes his up to 600 and it sounds silent, mine would be on the verge of blowing up. Ive jused popped it onto 450 and although the popping has slightly increased the vape is also slightly better too. Being new to the TC I don't massively get the wattage and its effects.
     

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    Also at 450, alongside the crackling It feels like there are shocks hitting my tongue
    The shocks you speak of sound like the liquid is spitting. I'm fairly new to vaping myself and don't have alot of experience with this, but I think your coil is flooded. Try this:

    If your e-cig is making a very noticeable gurgling sound, or you’re getting a large amount of e-liquid in your mouth, there’s a good chance you have a flooded atomizer. This can be the result of a coil going bad, a lack of airflow through the tank, or even just an improper e-juice refill. A flooded atomizer can be frustrating and lead to an unsatisfying vape. The following steps can help get your e-cig back to a quality vaping experience.





    1: Disassemble tank and remove atomizer


    Once the atomizer is removed, I personally like to give it a rinse with water.



    2: Dry out any remaining liquids
    This is the key step in fixing a flooded atomizer. To dry an atomizer you can
    either feed a rolled-up paper towel or q-tip through the center hole, or
    simply blow into the atomizer itself. As a heads up, blowing juice out of the
    coil can be quite messy (I always like to have extra paper towels on hand for this).



    (Optional step): Let the coil sit and dry completely
    If you aren’t in any rush and perhaps have a spare coil, it’s recommended
    to let the coil sit for 3-4 hours to ensure that all excess liquid evaporates.



    3: Reassemble tank and fill with e-juice
    At this point you are almost done. After filling up with your favorite e-juice,
    let the tank sit upright for 5-10 minutes so that the wicks become fully saturated.
    Some people will “prime” their coils by drawing on the tank without power.
    This is not recommended because it can actually result in re-flooding your atomizer.
     

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    Also read this regarding flooding:

    Flooding is a common occurrence in e-cigarettes. The definition of flooding is getting juice into the air passage of the tank. This can include any point between the mouth piece and the very bottom part that connects to the battery. Each tank has holes in that air passage, where the wicks passthrough. This is required for the device to work properly. Unfortunately, this opens up the possibility for flooding. The trick with flooding, is knowing how to avoid it. I’ll explain a little more, but a few common causes for flooding a tank include: improper filling, over filling, pulling too hard when hitting the device, and the temperature can even play a role and/or damage.

    Before I get into the explanation, let me explain how an e-cig works a little more in depth. Nearly every tank has a wick that is used to absorb the juice in the tank. This wick cuts through the air passage. Typically, the wicks look like strings hanging in the tank, but some have smaller wicks located at the bottom of the tank and the ‘strings’ are not visible unless the tank is disassembled. Each wick has a piece of wire that wraps around it in a coil. When you activate the button on the battery, you send electricity through the wire. As the wire heats up, it vaporizes the juice that is in the wick.

    Improper Filling: When filling your tank, you have to be careful not to get juice into the center tube of the tank. This center tube is the air passage. When you take a draw, air comes from the bottom of the tank, through the air passage and into your mouth. If you get juice into this passage way, your tank is flooded.

    Over Filling: If you over fill a tank (specifically a top coil like the ones that come with the starter kits and gift boxes), the wicks can become over saturated and just like a rain cloud, they will leak into the air passage. Once this happens, you have a flooded tank.

    Pulling Too Hard: As I mentioned the wicks absorb the juice in the tank. As you pull on the device, you cause a vacuum effect that pulls juice into the wicks. If you pull too hard, you can pull in more juice then the coil can vaporize. If this happens, the juice leaks into the air passage and you have a flooded tank.

    Temperature: E-Juice is a viscous liquid. Which means that as it warms up, it will thin out. And in the opposite form, it will thicken when it gets cold. When it thins, it is more difficult for the wicks to hold back the thin juice. This usually causes the wicks to over saturate and, you guessed it, it will leak into the air passage and you have a flooded tank.

    Damage: There are o-rings and gaskets used that can wear out with usage. If certain ones fail or get lost, leaking will occur, in turn flooding the air passage and causing you to have a flooded tank. Other than accidentally losing something, damage can occur when its carried in a purse or a pocket or by over tightening the tank to the battery. Over tightening is a very common cause of leaking due to the damage it creates.
     

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    I just got my first eVic Mini as well. I keep it basic too. I don't mess around with the temperature settings. I use Joyetech CLR heads 1.0 or 0.5 ohm. It's an awesome little mod so far. I had a lot help from the Vets on this site. If you're a basic user like myself, I'd get those heads instead. They don't have to be the CLR (I think these wick better, better flavor as well)... I don't rebuild them, just toss when I need a new one. They have slightly cheaper non rebuildable CL heads, I don't like those, odd taste for me. Get the CLR heads and make sure you drop a few drops in the center of the coils on to the cotton and I do this as well on the sides of the coils where the cotton is showing. Let it sit inside the tank for a few minutes, take some drags with out the fire button to really get the juice going. Make sure you're in power mode when using the CLR heads, you can adjust the wattage. 1.0 ohm 10 to 20 watts and 0.5 ohm 20 to 30 watts. I vape at 16 with a 1.0 ohm and 20 to 23 with a .5 ohm. So far so good. I hope that makes sense?!
     

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    I just got my first eVic Mini as well. I keep it basic too. I don't mess around with the temperature settings. I use Joyetech CLR heads 1.0 or 0.5 ohm. It's an awesome little mod so far. I had a lot help from the Vets on this site. If you're a basic user like myself, I'd get those heads instead. They don't have to be the CLR (I think these wick better, better flavor as well)... I don't rebuild them, just toss when I need a new one. They have slightly cheaper non rebuildable CL heads, I don't like those, odd taste for me. Get the CLR heads and make sure you drop a few drops in the center of the coils on to the cotton and I do this as well on the sides of the coils where the cotton is showing. Let it sit inside the tank for a few minutes, take some drags with out the fire button to really get the juice going. Make sure you're in power mode when using the CLR heads, you can adjust the wattage. 1.0 ohm 10 to 20 watts and 0.5 ohm 20 to 30 watts. I vape at 16 with a 1.0 ohm and 20 to 23 with a .5 ohm. So far so good. I hope that makes sense?!
    Is that the black ones actually ? I have a few of those. The chap in the store set the ecig up for me and he did put a bit of liquid onto the coil before the chamber, he set it up as ive seen/heard it should be so the setup aspect of it should be spot on.
     

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    These are what they look like.
     

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    The black ones could be either the 0.5ohm or the 1.0ohm. It should say on them which one they are. In either case, to use those you will want to make sure you set it to wattage mode instead of temp control mode. If it is 1.0 you will probably want to be between 10-20 watts, if they are .5ohm you will want to be between 20-35 watts. In either case, start out low, and increase it until you find the wattage that you enjoy. Since you bought it in a store, you may be able to take it in and they can possibly tell you what is causing your issue. This will depend somewhat on the store, as sometimes the people working in the store don't know as much as they should. If they are reasonably knowledgeable, they should be able to sort it out for you.
     
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    Yeah ive got more of those than the TC ones. So if I just set that one up and switch to power, its just straight vaping ? Obviously with the adjustment of voltage?

    In power mode your screen will look like this.
     

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    The black ones could be either the 0.5ohm or the 1.0ohm. It should say on them which one they are. In either case, to use those you will want to make sure you set it to wattage mode instead of temp control mode. If it is 1.0 you will probably want to be between 10-20 watts, if they are .5ohm you will want to be between 20-35 watts. In either case, start out low, and increase it until you find the wattage that you enjoy. Since you bought it in a store, you may be able to take it in and they can possibly tell you what is causing your issue. This will depend somewhat on the store, as sometimes the people working in the store don't know as much as they should. If they are reasonably knowledgeable, they should be able to sort it out for you.
    They are .5's. My battery has just ran out and its on charge at the moment so I might switch to the CLR and see how it goes. Next time I'm near the shop I think I'll pop in and enquire because something definitely isnt right. Thank you both for the help so far ! I'll let you know how the CLR works for me.

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