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"One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that "an unjust law is no law at all.”MLK
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"One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that "an unjust law is no law at all.”MLK
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Here are my thoughts. I believe everyone should follow the law, even the ones we disagree with.
That said, IF there is any truth to this article (in which I'm not admitting there is at this time) then I can't hold it against this judge either. He was trying (inadequately perhaps) to be stealthy like many ECF members in times of trouble, and we can't blame the man for having a nic fit during trials.
So, if he truly broke a law and truly got caught, then I'm sure as a judge he also has no difficulty paying any associated fines.
He should also get treatment (some kind of an AA program for nicotine dependency) and perhaps if he is able to serve out some probation then consider it all good and wipe his record clean like they do for people's first DUI's..
Just my two cents.
That said, IF there is any truth to this article (in which I'm not admitting there is at this time) then I can't hold it against this judge either. He was trying (inadequately perhaps) to be stealthy like many ECF members in times of trouble, and we can't blame the man for having a nic fit during trials.
So, if he truly broke a law and truly got caught, then I'm sure as a judge he also has no difficulty paying any associated fines.
He should also get treatment (some kind of an AA program for nicotine dependency) and perhaps if he is able to serve out some probation then consider it all good and wipe his record clean like they do for people's first DUI's..
Just my two cents.
He's a judge, he above all should respect the law. If you were called for jury duty and vaped like that you would be in trouble and probably even in his court room
That looks similar to the very first vape pen that I ever started with.
It was thin and slim and had a blue light at the end that lit up whenever you pressed the button.
It didn't give off much in the way of vapor clouds, so it could definitely be stealthy.
But the judge should've been smarter and gotten rid of that blue light, which is obviously a dead giveaway.
It was thin and slim and had a blue light at the end that lit up whenever you pressed the button.
It didn't give off much in the way of vapor clouds, so it could definitely be stealthy.
But the judge should've been smarter and gotten rid of that blue light, which is obviously a dead giveaway.
To be honest though, I do not respect all laws.
I see it as my right to not respect laws that I consider to be unjust. It's my form for civil disobedience. At least I am not blocking traffic, threatening people, littering all over the place and assaulting cops and other innocent bystanders and vandalizing stores, like other people and thugs who partake in their form for civil disobedience nowadays.
They even want to make it illegal to walk down the street while vaping or smoking soon.
I can guarantee you that I will be ignoring and breaking any such laws that might come along. They are simply irrelevant to me.
I agree you can disobey laws you disagree with. You will still be accountable if caught and prosecuted though.
There is a major difference between sitting in a court room vaping and walking down a street vaping. There is also a large difference in degree when a person in authority is flaunting the law vs civic disobedience
There is a major difference between sitting in a court room vaping and walking down a street vaping. There is also a large difference in degree when a person in authority is flaunting the law vs civic disobedience
I agree. I am fully aware of any potential consequences for the choices I make and I would be prepared to deal with them should I have to.
I believe that I read that they were talking about a $50 fine or so if caught, but this is all preliminary, so it hasn't gone into effect yet.
Also they may pass laws making it illegal to smoke or vape on the street but will they ever enforce them? Dubious in the utmost. Here in SF it is basically illegal to vape on the street for the most part. It is illegal to smoke or vape with 25 ft of a window or doorway. You may under that law only stand on the street curb away from any doors or windows and smoke or vape. Does this stop anyone? No. Has anyone ever been fined for it? No.
Disrespect for the law is earned in many ways by passing stupid laws that you never intend to enforce to begin with. Not to say that this applies to vaping or smoking in a court room because that is generally enforced by the judge directly. Just like no cell phones used while the court is in session. I was on a civil jury trial where one juror's cell phone rang during the trial. The judge had the phone taken by the bailiff and had it held in lock up for the duration of the trial, several days. Nobody after that forgot to turn them off when entering the court room.
Disrespect for the law is earned in many ways by passing stupid laws that you never intend to enforce to begin with. Not to say that this applies to vaping or smoking in a court room because that is generally enforced by the judge directly. Just like no cell phones used while the court is in session. I was on a civil jury trial where one juror's cell phone rang during the trial. The judge had the phone taken by the bailiff and had it held in lock up for the duration of the trial, several days. Nobody after that forgot to turn them off when entering the court room.
Then this is your future. Think they will allow you to vape there?
If I ever lived in a society where they were hunting me down and seriously wanting to put me behind bars for doing an innocent thing such as vaping while walking down the street, then I would guess that it would be time for me to flee the country.
I have friends and family overseas in a few different places, so I guess that I can proudly become a vape fugitive, on the run from a fascist regime.
Breaking questionable laws is one thing, discretion is another. How he thought he could stealth up there, where he's clearly the focal point of the whole room, is absurd. Take a quick recess and fog up your own chambers, or at the very least, drop the gavel under the desk and take a stealth hit while retrieving it.
It already is in Seattle! Was informed of that back in 2014 while there overnight on a layover.
I remembered at the time thinking it was especially outrageous...since just weeks before, the recreational use of "something else"...had been made legal there.
That's what ya get when you don't use a ProVari. Had he been using a ProVari, this wouldn't be happening. Everyone would've known that he vaped like a boss and he'd have been given the respect he deserved. He brought this on himself by using junk.
Court dismissed.
Court dismissed.
You'll be surprised if you google for that. They've had prison vapes for a few yrs now.Then this is your future. Think they will allow you to vape there?
I can't stand officers of the court that so blatantly break the law. And it sounds like he has no intension of advocacy, just ignoring a law he disagrees with. This is the state of our court systems in this country right now. Do as I say, not as I do. He should be removed. Period.
IF he did this (Im not accepting this New York Post article as proof of guilt, this whole story could be BS) but IF he did this then yes, he would be removed from the bench upon conviction, and could potentially be disbarred depending upon how this is viewed, especially if he did this in the court room..
Small piece of black electrical tape over the end. No more issues. If all they are going on is a light and not visible vapor, he could continue.
He should declare a 15 minute recess and go in his chambers and rip a few.
Or...let everybody else in the room vape, too.
Or...let everybody else in the room vape, too.
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