Juice reformulation

[foobar]

Hey there all. Total newbie here. After reading a fair chunk of comments on the forum here I think one relatively easy change would be for there to be glycerin based cartridges/juice instead of the PG product available now. I'm not familiar with nicotine's solubility in glycerin so there may be barriers there but I would think that switching away from PG to Glycerin would make it so that the only potentially hazardous chemical in the vapor is the nicotine itself.

Just my $.02

 

[Spider]

Hi foobar! Welcome to the forum! I believe TB (TropicalBob) already uses Vegetable Glycerin now and again - if you check through the posts you should find out more about it. Shouldn't be too hard to use it instead.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

I use Vegetable Glycerin. No problems here. Not all the side effects I had when I was smoking PG exclusively.

 

[karenwest1961]

I'm going to buy some this afternoon.

I agree that this stuff needs to be reformulated.

 

[dnakr]

I've been using Vegetable Glycerin for a few months now and I have had no problems.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

dnakr has now been added to the VG list ...

VG Users:
dnakr
TrobicalBob
CaSH
Nazareth

 

[VP2008]

Count me in, too!

 

[leaford]

I gotta say no. I tried some, and I found it made me cough as much as a real cig.

 

[karenwest1961]

Those who are using it are now known. After you've used it for awhile, how about sharing a little more about it besides vapor and no side effects? The vapor is getting rave reviews...and so far, no one is reporting any side effects. Give it up:

Flavor?

What do you mix it with?

Where did you purchased yours? (Thanks for your link, Cash )

Do you add e-cig pg nicotine to your glycerine to get flavor? Or do you use bicks? Or do you brew your own?

Are you using VG exclusively or are you still using regular e-cig liquid?

If you're using VG exclusively, are you noticing any feeling of wellness since switching?

After you've been using it for a couple of weeks or more, share your experience?

Thank ya!

 

[Nazareth]

It will Leaford if you use too much- some use it striaght, but like you, I find it is quite harsh on the throat- not that I can't stand it, but I prefer only adding a little to juice to make it vapor better- as well, Glycerin affects my internals causing musical sounds best produced in private.

 

[Nazareth]

Those who are using it are now known. After you've used it for awhile, how about sharing a little more about it besides vapor and no side effects? The vapor is getting rave reviews...and so far, no one is reporting any side effects. Give it up:

--[[Yes- Very good vapor indeed!]]--

Flavor?

--[[Glycerin is flavorless and will kill the flavor in a smokin juice mixture- you have to vary how much flavor you add to compensate for loss of flavor due to addition of glycerin I find]]--

What do you mix it with?

--[[personally I don't add bickfords as I prefere straight tobacco taste- I just use strong cooked down tobacco juice to flavor with]]--

Where did you purchased yours?

--[[local walmart in skin care isle "HUMECO" is the name f it- you can find it online too]]--

Do you add e-cig pg nicotine to your glycerine to get flavor? Or do you use bicks? Or do you brew your own?

--[[brew my own out of Swisher Sweet Cigarillos which I simmer down ot nice thick juice]]--

Are you using VG exclusively or are you still using regular e-cig liquid?

--[[exclusively]]--

If you're using VG exclusively, are you noticing any feeling of wellness since switching?

--[[No changes except for intestinal music]]--

After you've been using it for a couple of weeks or more, share your experience?

--[[would recommend adding a dropperfull or so to a 30ml bottle of eliquids of choice to improve vapor]]--

 

[TropicalBob]

VG will be known henceforth by its new nickname, Little Toot.

I've used it in a variety of ways, mixed with PG and Bickfords. No side effects to either myself or the atomizer, as far as I can tell (shoot, atomizers are so frail they drop dead if we fail to utter the First Church E-Smoking long-life incantation over them nightly).

At present (heck, I can't e-smoke this stuff fast enough to keep up with experiments), I use about one-fourth Little Toot, one-fourth Bickford, one fourth homebrew tobacco juice and one-fourth old E-Cig 24mg, carefully aged in oak barrels and stored in my cellar.

 

[karenwest1961]

Give ya the farts, huh? Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice. Oh well, wonder if I'll need to cut back on the fiber?

Nazareth...I LOVE Swisher Sweets. How many did you use to brew a 30 ml bottle?

 

[Nazareth]

I made up a batch that produced abotu 7-8 30 ml bottles worth and dropped in about 10 cigarillos (Not hte cigars) to cook down. I'm goign to try the Swisher Sweet cigars nextime- probably will only use abotu 6 or so then

 

[karenwest1961]

I preferred the cigarillos when I smoked them.

Do the flavor ones give you the same flavor you experienced when you smoked them? A little hint? Or do you get any flavor at all from the Swisher Sweets?

Thanks Nazareth!

 

[jamie]

--[[Glycerin is flavorless and will kill the flavor in a smokin juice mixture- you have to vary how much flavor you add to compensate for loss of flavor due to addition of glycerin I find]]

Here's where I get confused. If you have juice and add glycerin, then add flavor, you're diluting the glycerin with the additional flavor and PG (for most of us using Bickford). How can you really add more flavor?

This might make sense after I get some sleep. Right now...

 

[Nazareth]

I preferred the cigarillos when I smoked them.

Do the flavor ones give you the same flavor you experienced when you smoked them? A little hint? Or do you get any flavor at all from the Swisher Sweets?

Thanks Nazareth!

Perhaps a little hint- but a definate strong tobacco flavor which I like-

 

[Nazareth]

Jamie- it will dilute hte Glycerin, but not by much- there will still be more than thestandard amount in the mix- comercial eliquid in Cartridges contain appr. 4-7% Glycerin, adding more will jump thta up quite a bit, so diluting it some with flaoring will still result in more Glycerin than standard mixtures

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Glycerin seems to cancel out flavors very quickly. When i would add more then 1/2 -2/3 Glycerin to my mix, the flavor added would be almost gone.

Strong flavoring (ie: cooked tobacco, etc....) would probably work best with VG

 

[Nazareth]

That's what I've foudn as well Cash- Just gotta play around with the amounts of ingredients until you get a good compromise between good vapor, and good flavoring- its a bit trial and error, but hte mix above seems to be a good starting point I've found- adjusting either with flavoring, or with Glycerin depending on taste.