Juice too thick to vape??

[SmokingBullet]

So I get an order today and can't wait to try them. They were purchased at the recommended PG/VG mix by the supplier.
Although the mix is 50/50, its dark in color and extremely thick. Was worried about my atty but made sure I cleaned it after vaping it. Next step, time to try it in a carto. Took out a new carto and filled it, took forever because of the thickness. After letting the carto sit for about an hour, I decided to vape.
This juice is too thick to vape! I'm drawing on the carto so hard my jaws hurt! I'm not going any further in explaining this one LOL.
Tried another carto, same thing so I know it's not a DOA carto.
I'm not a DIY'er so I'm wondering if this juice can be diluted with anything which won't change it's taste. Any suggestions?

 

[dormouse]

Carto? 50/50 may be too thick for a carto. I don't have much experience with cartos yet but I asked someone at Vapor Junction what a good ratio would be for their CE2 r4 cartos and he said he used 80/20 and he thought 70/30 might be good too?

Hopefully someone more familiar with cartos could help. Does your carto have stuffing or is it a reservoir type?

 

[SmokingBullet]

Carto's are prestuffed. The element runs through the middle of it.
What's funny is I've used other juices at 50/50 in my carto's and they weren't so thick and worked fine. The only thing is that it takes a bit longer to refill cartos because of the viscosity.

 

[guitardedmark]

for the most part 50/50 should work with a filler carto. For the ce2 it wont because ce2s suck! actually they dont at all. The wicking is terrible I use 50/50 for filler cartos (BOGE) and it works great!

 

[Goldenkobold]

I vape 100% vg on a boge 2.0 carto....its never too thick!..

ok if your dealing with the really thick stuff...the stuff that sits on top of the filler material for over 60 seconds before wicking in...use a syringe to get it down inside the carto or pull the filler away from the side with a thumb tack to make sure it soaks in there...you want to make sure your not loosing your juice to that center hole as that is just flooding your carto.

 

[Ardeagold]

I vape a lot that's higher VG than PG. Never have had a problem. Is it possible you're flooding your carto or atty?

 

[LMP]

It's not the ratio of VG to PG that is the problem, it's how much it's thinned.

You can make a 100% VG juice that is runny like watter by thinning it with alcohol or watter.

The juice maker should have done that before sending you his product assuming that he knows what he is doing.

 

[Goldenkobold]

Water and alcohol thin the vapor production as well.

 

[LMP]

A little watter or alcohol would have improved the OP's vapor production quite a bit compared to what he is getting now!

 

[guitardedmark]

water and alcohol never improve vapor production... It will thin the juice however.

 

[LMP]

water and alcohol never improve vapor production... It will thin the juice however.

water and alcohol will improve vapor production if the lack of it is keeping the juice from reaching the atomizer in the first place.

 

[guitardedmark]

to clarify water and alcohol will not improve vapor production but rather it can improve the wicking which could result in more vapor if the liquid is not reaching the coil. To be honest, I highly doubt that is the OP problem. Hes probably flooding it.

 

[SmokingBullet]

Nope, not flooding it. Juice was way way too thick, even the supplier told me so and apologized about it. Made it to his liking because he drips plus he said he forgot to thin the VG??? Go figure.

 

[Goldenkobold]

is your cartomizer like this?

 

[fallon74]

I think the 50/50 pg, vg is too much vg is really thick and is known to clog attys.
You can use a little bit of bottled water to thin the liquid out. I would suggest next time you order buy the pg mix.
pg= less vapor more throat hit
vg=more vapor less throat hit

 

[guitardedmark]

I've never had a juice so thick that it didn't wick good enough.. That is with anything other than the ce2 cartos which IMO are terrible. Nothing wicks good with those...

 

[Goldenkobold]

I have put pure vg in a kr808/boge and as long as I don't get it in the center hole...it wicks...whats more only the center hole should be affecting air flow, if the unit is like the above picture...I just tested this and you can fill the outer area with epoxy and get better airflow than if you clog the center hole with epoxy. (this was screwed in but..for obvious reasons.. not powered on.)

now thickness does affect performance on the ce2's, and it does make a difference in how fast/ and method used on filling the boge.

 

[otrpu]

I loaded a brandy new C-E2 R4 XL 2.4ohm carto with VoidMist, Cinnamon Mist, 18mg/mL, 50/50 Pg/Vg, I've been a hittin it all day pretty steady. Seems to be wicking fine for me. I use nothing but cartos, and for the past 5 weeks, nothing but E2 XL's. Weeks ago I had what I thought were wicking problems. My solution then was to load two cartos on two identical PV's and switch back and forth between them when I detected a change in the vape. But, that was weeks ago. Haven't had any problems lately. JMHO

Cheers,
otrpu

 

[Goldenkobold]

C-E2 R4's work fine for most juice...but you cant chain vape thick 100 vg with them...they don't wick fast enough.