Just curious... Why "e-cigarette" in the title?
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Yes, layers of that wire you can use to wrap shapes and smearing it with powdered asbestos mixed with water I think it was. You just can't make this stuff up.
I'm guessing that any therapy "improvements" may also have contained a little "brain damage" or whatnot. The therapist helped the kid paint it and all but when I read it I about died.
Sometimes you can find useful tips from the past. I'll admit I had a few kiddos where, well, if I hadn't been in the room, I might have considered it.
. I'm kidding, I love kids and the more rotten, the better. It's just a reminder of how much safer in so many ways we are today!
Sarcasm was enabled and you had better believe I brought that book to team meeting for my coworkers enjoyment. Old book shops are magical places, is all I can say....
Anna
I'm guessing that any therapy "improvements" may also have contained a little "brain damage" or whatnot. The therapist helped the kid paint it and all but when I read it I about died.
Sometimes you can find useful tips from the past. I'll admit I had a few kiddos where, well, if I hadn't been in the room, I might have considered it.
. I'm kidding, I love kids and the more rotten, the better. It's just a reminder of how much safer in so many ways we are today! Sarcasm was enabled and you had better believe I brought that book to team meeting for my coworkers enjoyment. Old book shops are magical places, is all I can say....
Anna
Asbestos doll?
They were almost as fun to make as the lead wire frame dolls stuffed with C-4 and painted with a nitro-glycerine based paint. Safety first, you know.
Here's the good news....I seriously doubt that was asbestos. It doesn't really work like that. Not to say what you used didn't have any asbestos in it (although, that's unlikely too....) But, asbestos doesn't really mix into a paste. It was added to things like joint compounds, floor tile, pipe insulation, cements and mastics..... It made things stronger, last longer or more fire resistant. On it's own, it wouldn't mix with water. You'll live another 30 years easy!Yes, layers of that wire you can use to wrap shapes and smearing it with powdered asbestos mixed with water I think it was. You just can't make this stuff up.
I'm guessing that any therapy "improvements" may also have contained a little "brain damage" or whatnot. The therapist helped the kid paint it and all but when I read it I about died.
Sometimes you can find useful tips from the past. I'll admit I had a few kiddos where, well, if I hadn't been in the room, I might have considered it.
Sarcasm was enabled and you had better believe I brought that book to team meeting for my coworkers enjoyment. Old book shops are magical places, is all I can say....
Anna
I am 100% certain it was asbestos although I may be wrong about what the mix was. I don't know where that book is currently, though. She called it "The asbestos puppet/doll." I don't think she'd have had any reason (then) to not proudly proclaim her method.
I was neither a child, nor a therapist, nor alive in the 50s, so it's not something I have to worry about.
There may well have been HUGE SWATHES of asbestos in my therapy shack on the reservation, though. There was black mold at one point and also a very underpowered, unhappy ventilation system. The black mold got fixed, but it would shock me 0% if there was something unhealthy in that trailer, however. Yeah "OSHA" is a thing and all, but I am 100% convinced that I might've died or at least lost my job in an unhappy way thereafter.
Anna
I was neither a child, nor a therapist, nor alive in the 50s, so it's not something I have to worry about.
There may well have been HUGE SWATHES of asbestos in my therapy shack on the reservation, though. There was black mold at one point and also a very underpowered, unhappy ventilation system. The black mold got fixed, but it would shock me 0% if there was something unhealthy in that trailer, however. Yeah "OSHA" is a thing and all, but I am 100% convinced that I might've died or at least lost my job in an unhappy way thereafter.
Anna
Ahhhhh....that makes more sense. Strips of asbestos containing material (ACM) make excellent casting!I am 100% certain it was asbestos although I may be wrong about what the mix was. I don't know where that book is currently, though. She called it "The asbestos puppet/doll." I don't think she'd have had any reason (then) to not proudly proclaim her method.
I was neither a child, nor a therapist, nor alive in the 50s, so it's not something I have to worry about.
There may well have been HUGE SWATHES of asbestos in my therapy shack on the reservation, though. There was black mold at one point and also a very underpowered, unhappy ventilation system. The black mold got fixed, but it would shock me 0% if there was something unhealthy in that trailer, however. Yeah "OSHA" is a thing and all, but I am 100% convinced that I might've died or at least lost my job in an unhappy way thereafter.
Anna
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Just a few with a quick search. I do remember them from my childhood.
Yup. One of the elementary schools that I attended had a Halloween pageant of sorts where every kid that came in a costume would walk around outside of the classroom doors. Then the students and teachers would vote for their favorites. In third grade I went as a Jimmy Durante. I'd like to believe that my impression was spot on but none of the other kids watched old movies so....anyway, a bubble gum cigar was one of my props. And candy cigarettes would have been great if they didn't taste like sugary chalk.
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I just had to chuckle at “a long time ago back in the 2000’s”. [emoji13]
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I set ECF up in 2007. The phrase "vaping" didn't exist then (arguably I was the first to use it, a couple of weeks after I set ECF up).
I'm not a fan of "e-cigarette", I'm also not a fan of "vape", or "mod" or pretty much any of the generics that have been used along the way. Not that I discount them - people use them, so they are valid.
That said, I think the phrase "e-cigarette" has one advantage - it's a clear declarative that this technology is designed to replace cigarettes. Remember, most smokers are still that, and haven't yet moved over to vaping.
Also, remember that the technology has not yet matured. I still think the ideal "e-cigarette" can exist.
So, this idea that the phrase "e-cigarette" is a problem. It's not even in the top 10 of things that are stacked against vaping. It might make some people nervous, but that ship sailed a long time ago.
This forum contains an archive of almost all the important developments in vaping, many of which were first published here, and often were developed through our members collaboration. ECF is referenced in patent applications, academic research and many other domains. Changing the domain name would potentially reduce its visibility, so I'd need a very good reason to do so.
Not saying it won't happen. Just cannot see a good reason (or a good name) to change it to.
I'm not a fan of "e-cigarette", I'm also not a fan of "vape", or "mod" or pretty much any of the generics that have been used along the way. Not that I discount them - people use them, so they are valid.
That said, I think the phrase "e-cigarette" has one advantage - it's a clear declarative that this technology is designed to replace cigarettes. Remember, most smokers are still that, and haven't yet moved over to vaping.
Also, remember that the technology has not yet matured. I still think the ideal "e-cigarette" can exist.
So, this idea that the phrase "e-cigarette" is a problem. It's not even in the top 10 of things that are stacked against vaping. It might make some people nervous, but that ship sailed a long time ago.
This forum contains an archive of almost all the important developments in vaping, many of which were first published here, and often were developed through our members collaboration. ECF is referenced in patent applications, academic research and many other domains. Changing the domain name would potentially reduce its visibility, so I'd need a very good reason to do so.
Not saying it won't happen. Just cannot see a good reason (or a good name) to change it to.
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How about a compromise....can you name it 'Asbestos' House of E-Cigarette Know How' ?
Ummm NO. The last thing we need is some ANTZ deciding to use that to publish an article that ecigs contain [the material you are named after].
Besides, ScottP's E-Cigarette Dojo has a better ring to it.
the terms eCigarette and eCig were coined long before Vaping ever became a hobby or had a "vaping community"... it's what electronic cigarettes were called when they were invented.
before it became uber cool to chuck the biggest clouds ... people were actually using eCigs to quit cigarettes.
apparently, facial tissue fans have a similar beef with Kleenex.
Can't you just see the commercials already?Ummm NO. The last thing we need is some ANTZ deciding to use that to publish an article that ecigs contain [the material you are named after].
Besides, ScottP's E-Cigarette Dojo has a better ring to it.
"If you or a loved one ever vaped or walked into a vape store....call Montlick and Associates... "
Speaking of attorney commercials, I secretly keep hoping I'll get hit by a truck just so I can call this guy
You gotta watch these, there are a lot more, all just as...good?...bad?...you get the idea.
The electric toothbrush been out for 50's years or so, and I don't recall anyone ever referring to them as "e-toothbrush". On the other hand, if one were to make such a distinction, it would be analogous. A mod, atomizer, PG/VG are not analogous to tobacco burning, or the associated accoutrements. This being a matter of fact, they should not be associated in any vernacular. If someone were to invent a device that uses an electrified screen to burn tobacco, such as device would be analogous to cigarette (pipe and cigar) smoking.
I quit smoking cigarettes in 2008 using what I referred to as a PNV (personal nicotine vaporizer). I referred to it as such on this forum back in 2009. I believe is was this forum? Thinking... I want to go even deeper into this, but Washington DC politicians and their corporate handlers have enough ammo with the inaccurate term "e-cigarette". Best we just agree to disagree, and leave it there.
I quit smoking cigarettes in 2008 using what I referred to as a PNV (personal nicotine vaporizer). I referred to it as such on this forum back in 2009. I believe is was this forum? Thinking... I want to go even deeper into this, but Washington DC politicians and their corporate handlers have enough ammo with the inaccurate term "e-cigarette". Best we just agree to disagree, and leave it there.
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Not 1 person, politician or otherwise ever said "We need to ban/tax/regulate them because they are called e-cigarettes". Instead they make up crap about them being a gateway to smoking, harmful to children, and other such nonsense. This would have been just as true if they had been called anything else. It's all about the money, not the name.
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