Just Got my MVP 2.0, What I Like and What I Don't

[Miata GT]

Just got my vapemail in with the MVP 2.0 this morning and I have been vaping for a few hours now. I like all the things people have mentioned about the form factor, yada, yada. I also noticed my bottom switch is recessed so it's not wobbly like the eearlier ones.

What I don't like: every single T3S and PT2 tank has a noticeably harder draw, to the point where they all now flood the coil where they did not on my eGo. I've tried 2 cotton strands for the flavor wicks and that doesn't help for more than a minute. The threading on the eGo connector runs too high for the T3Ss and blocks the airholes. I can't imagine what the deal with the PT2 is and its 503 threading.

So now I just have to figure out how to stop the gurgling that doesn't involve drilling out the airholes on the tanks (no drillpress).

 

[Empi666]

I don't understand what these issues have to due with the MVP2? Its standard 510 threading. Maybe its the beauty ring that you are using? Sometimes what I do is, I don't tighten the beauty ring all the way down. And then I screw on the tank on top of it to sort of raise the tank a little.

 

[Miata GT]

Yeah I meant to say 510 threading...I don't know either. This is with no beauty ring. I'm more concerned about the T3S tanks though. Bummer for me I guess.

 

[Empi666]

Huh... weird. I only say that because I have a protank2 as well and have switched it between my MVP2 and my girl's eGo and don't have/noticed any difference.

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

I don't think the issue is the MVP so much as it's an issue with Kanger. They can't seem to decide where to put the airholes on their tanks. I've seen side by side photos on the web that show them at many different heights. Seems like a quality control issue with them, not Innokin.

 

[Iquitcigs]

i run a pt2 on my mpv v2 and it fine my coils are rebuilt with cotton wicks as i don't see the point in running the stock ones they are pretty poor once you have had a custom coil.Try making sure the holes around the base of the pt are free from blockage i have had this happen on brand new ones also the beauty ring that goes on the mov the holes are to small for my liking so i drilled mine out can't help with t3s as i don't own any

 

[Miata GT]

Tinkie, not trying to place blame but it doesn't seem reasonable to me the threads should even go as high. In any case I have a problem that I need to solve that was not a problem before.

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

I didn't mean to sound hostile. Just mentioning I've seen pics of Evod and T3s with the holes in all different places. Some people have had issues with them on the iTaste VV v3s as well, depending on where Kanger drilled the holes. The 510 issue however, is new to me. Just saying you aren't alone.

 

[Miata GT]

Tinkie, no worries I didn't take it that way. Thinking about it more it seems that if there is an eGo 'standard,' and all eGo clones seem to use it then why then would Innokin use threading on their devices to subvert that standard? Not challenging or saying it was intentional but it just takes the icing off the nice cake that should have been my mod upgrade that isn't.

 

[FearTX]

I use Evods on my eGo thread on the MVP and have no issues. As well with my PT2, I do have to take the beauty ring off for the Evods but not for the Mini ProTank2s.

Hope you get it figured out, the MVP is a solid budget device

 

[erikbal]

That's odd. I just bought a T3S 2 days ago and it works fine on my MVP2. It has quite an airy draw to it as well. Sorry it's not working for you. I use the T3S without the beauty ring obviously, but I did drill out the holes in the beauty ring to 1/16" to help with other devices like the iclear30 and it did make a slight difference. Sorry I can't help you with your problem.

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[Recycled Roadkill]

I've thought of drilling larger holes in the MPV 2 beauty ring for use with the PT2 but I'm concerned my tastes may change in the future, as they seem to be doing on an almost daily basis. I'm using the cone adapter that comes with the PT2 instead and get the more airy draw along with the extra support provided.

 

[vaperature]

I haven't had that problem with my MVP, even with the beauty ring attached. Hope you figure out how to solve it because it really is a very remarkable device.

 

[GoodNews!]

You may want to try an air-flow controller, it's pretty much a beauty ring that allows for adjustment. When all the way unjusted, air just flows through whatever sits on it, though CE-style tanks that fit over the battery connector don't fit on it. It may be indeed that the 510 connection is "higher" than the other battery - my Twist-type battery has notches cut out of the 510 for extra airflow, and I'm sure each battery has it's own design where that's concerned.

Just sucks though that the make seems to be different. Sometimes there are even defects from design to design concerning the metal, if you have an open minded vendor, reporting the problem may allow an exchange. Seems like it'd be a tough call though.

Concerning physics, the one thing about air flow in devices, is that with devices like the Protank, it really hangs in perfect balance. No type of airflow effects how well a wick itself soaks up juice, but what airflow will do is pull tiny amounts of juice through the microgaps where the wick is laying, which of coarse, pulls more juice onto the wick. If there's too much suction, it'll pull the juice right through and dislodge that proportion quite a bit. Another thing that contributes to flooding is having too much open air in the tank, and not enough of negative pressure - there's always a fine line on that too, as too much will prevent wicking. I don't know of any real way to instantly make negative pressure form though, so I guess it's sort of useless info.

Too much airflow, however, and the wick just won't wick as fast. Personally, I think a lot of the reasoning behind how different batteries work for different folks is indeed the 510 connection - small differences in outter circumferences, notches, height, and all that, in theory, could really effect how each tank performs. I know that with my Twisty, it gives any tank whatsoever a tremendous airflow, and it may be the issue as to why my tanks never seem to wick.

 

[joeybear]

Maybe the problem is that you've had it for a few hours and haven't hit the sweet spot with it, yet. Kangers have their issues, but once you learn their intricacies, you'll be fine.

 

[ZeroOhm]

I got an MVP 2.0 as a backup device for my 6 week old POS SVD which given what I know now I would never buy one or recommend to anyone again. The MVP I Iiked from the off, I have been through 4 PT IIs since i started vaping just a few weeks ago 2 were given to me and bought from different retailers in October. I tested the draw between the SVD and MVP they seem the same or there abouts. Have you checked the PTs slots and the one I checked has 3 air holes in the 510 connector as in the pic. The other 2 pics are the showing the slots when attached to the vanity ring.

I have been using a RH Herc and just tried it on the MVP at the same wattage weird it's unvapourable @ 6W and fine at 6-7.5W on the SVD i wonder if there are some output variations or if the MVP is putting out more power? Still doesn't solve your prb.


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[Huckleberried]

Hmm. What sucks is, you're reading through all this and hearing how great everyone's is performing and it still doesn't help you. I, too, am really sorry. I've also had zero issue with mine using a protank, an evod, a mini protank or an Aro. All the ones the guy at the shop said might NOT work, HAVE worked. Would a new base for your protank be an answer? I'm asking, because I don't know, maybe someone will say. I have an extra base and it looks to be drilled exactly the same as my original, but you never know. You may have to just try a different atty altogether. What about the one that came with it? Mine came with an iclear 16b (camo), which I gave to my boyfriend because he LOVES camo. Hopefully something will work out. I want you to love your MVP too!

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

Ah. I just remembered. Many retailers are selling just the T3s bases, so T3 users can upgrade to the s version cheaply. It won't help you tonight, but maybe you can try another base? Or, the ego to 510 and the 510 to ego adapters are pretty cheap too. Just a thought, and saves you from drilling holes.

As for subversion, I just don't see it. I don't think it would be to either Kanger's or Innokins advantage to try and go proprietary for anything. These companies rely a lot on reviewers and customer feed back. Judging from the pics I've seen I just think Kanger happened to let a couple clearos get past them with the air holes in different places and didn't know. Yes, the threading is higher on Innokin's devices, but aside from those few Kanger products they work with clearos from most companies, including most clearos from Kanger. There's so much about vaping that boils down to personal preference, and it would hurt the sales of both Kanger and Innokin to try and make it so that their products couldn't be worked with eachother. For example, my husband will only vape with a Mini Protank II, and he prefers the iTaste VV v3. If he couldn't make this combination work, he'd likely still be smoking. Both companies would loose his business. Is there any other evidence on Innokin heading that way?

 

[p.opus]

I hate to throw this monkey in the works, but are you positive you have authentic Kanger Product?

The Protank II and Evod clearomizers are one of the most "copied" devices out there. When people start talking about Kanger being "inconsistent" on their air hole placement and such, that screams "Knockoff!!!" to me.

I have three Mini Protank 2's and 2 MiniProtank 1's. All of them purchased by a verified authorized Kanger reseller, and all my tank bottoms have their airholes in the EXACT same location.

If you still are having issues, I have a suggestion. Buy a Kanger Protank 2 from an authorized Kanger distributor like Sun-Vapers in San Diego.

Kanger Protank II Fully Modular Glassomizer with changeable glass

Put that tank through the hoops. If that tank passes, then purchase another. If that tank passes, then I would start accepting the fact that perhaps, just perhaps, you got less than authentic Kanger product in the past.

 

[Grimwald]

I've heard this before with the MVP and evods or T2s. That's one reason I've shied away from it because these are my two favorite tanks. Seems like, if Kangers work on any old ego, then they should work on an MVP. If they don't, then Innokin is the problem...but that's just MHO.