Just got notice that Mt. Baker Vapor won't be selling to Utah

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Thanks for the link. I will jump over to ask them why they stopped before the effective date. what business doesn't want the sales?
They want to make sure all orders to Utah are out of the system in case of back orders or shipments that may be delayed in transit. They also want to get the word out for those that never pay attention to the news.
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    You will see a lot of that from a lot of juice manufacturers. BTW, if you live in the Roy aria, you can thank your local congressman Paul Ray for that.

    It has to do with the labeling. They can still sell to vape shops, who can affix the required labels.
    Tamper proof packaging is also required as well as child proof caps. There is also a restriction on the total amount of nicotine. (360mgs' of nicotine)
    So if you vaped 36mg juice, a 10ml bottle would be the maximum sized container.
     
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    There is also a restriction on the total amount of nicotine. (360mgs' of nicotine)
    So if you vaped 36mg juice, a 10ml bottle would be the maximum sized container.

    That's really going to be bad for customers that DIY there own e-juice .... With those restrictions, it will be but impossible to order any quantity of Unflavored Nicotine Base used for making DIY e-juice.
     

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    That's really going to be bad for customers that DIY there own e-juice .... With those restrictions, it will be but impossible to order any quantity of Unflavored Nicotine Base used for making DIY e-juice.
    Yup, that's probably the best way to control and get the most tax moneys they can from us.
     

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    Yup, that's probably the best way to control and get the most tax moneys they can from us.

    .............and again, I must contend, proper preparation is not panic hording as some members seem to believe.:cool:

    I personally DIY and have plenty of supplies on hand to carry the needs of my family Vapers for a considerable time.

    To those that don't know, I feel sorry and will continue my fight for our right to Vape.
    To those that choose to ignore what is coming, sorry about your luck.:sneaky:

    Inaction is the worst course of action one can take. Eventually there will be nothing to act upon.:?:
     

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    Inaction is the worst course of action one can take. Eventually there will be nothing to act upon.:?:
    Agreed. If you're looking around wondering why no one did anything, you're the one that should have been doing something.
     

    mcol

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    I must admit I'm normally very active in the Call to Action stuff, but
    Utah slipped by me I think as I don't remember hearing anything about it.
    OP - one thing this has taught me is to make sure I vote, and pay attention
    to what my politicians are doing. Vote them out of office as payback.
    This insanity has to stop.
     

    tj99959

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    the reason is that the church cant use people with reduced lung capacity... and you really thought they used an air pump to power the organ in the Church?? ;)

    No, the real reason is that the church cow-tows to big business (think they're being good Republicans)..... even when big business is wrong.
    Or didn't you notice that the big tobacco produced e-cigs are exempt.
     

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    From the link that mcol posted...

    "This [Utah] legislation reclassifies vaping products as tobacco products in the state of Utah and places “restrictions on mail order or Internet sales.”.

    Many People see this and shake their heads. Saying that Utah is just "Out Their" and or "Acting Crazy". But Isn't this just a Glimpse of what an FDA "Deemed" market will look like?
     

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    From the link that mcol posted...

    "This [Utah] legislation reclassifies vaping products as tobacco products in the state of Utah and places “restrictions on mail order or Internet sales.”.

    Many People see this and shake their heads. Saying that Utah is just "Out Their" and or "Acting Crazy". But Isn't this just a Glimpse of what an FDA "Deemed" market will look like?

    I think so. I have always thought internet sales will be the first thing to go once the tobacco classification is in place, post deeming, and bottled eliquid will end up being treated much like buying a pack of cigarettes tax stamps and all.
     

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    From the link that mcol posted...

    "This [Utah] legislation reclassifies vaping products as tobacco products in the state of Utah and places “restrictions on mail order or Internet sales.”.

    Many People see this and shake their heads. Saying that Utah is just "Out Their" and or "Acting Crazy". But Isn't this just a Glimpse of what an FDA "Deemed" market will look like?

    The FDA seem to be concentrating their fire on the hardware, while the States take on the job of screwing us on the liquid side. Maybe it's coincidence, or maybe it's division of labor. Mind you, Indiana seems to be covering both angles.

    Overall it looks to me like a disorganized panic driven mess at every level rather than a carefully planned campaign.
     

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    I think so. I have always thought internet sales will be the first thing to go once the tobacco classification is in place, post deeming, and bottled eliquid will end up being treated much like buying a pack of cigarettes tax stamps and all.

    Yeah... It's kinda hard to read the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act of 2009 and not believe that Tobacco Products will Only be sold in Face-2-Face transactions.
     

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    The FDA seem to be concentrating their fire on the hardware, while the States take on the job of screwing us on the liquid side. Maybe it's coincidence, or maybe it's division of labor. Mind you, Indiana seems to be covering both angles.

    Overall it looks to me like a disorganized panic driven mess at every level rather than a carefully planned campaign.

    Funny... I see it as the Direct Opposite.

    Because trying to Regulate Hardware is going to be Problematic. Whereas Regulating/Restricting e-Liquids that contain Nicotine kinda goes after the Head of the Snake.
     

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    Funny... I see it as the Direct Opposite.

    Because trying to Regulate Hardware is going to be Problematic. Whereas Regulating/Restricting e-Liquids that contain Nicotine kinda goes after the Head of the Snake.

    Got to agree with that. If they controlled nic they would control everything. But the nic supply seems to an afterthought in their strategy. Maybe there's some reason for that which I haven't figured out yet.
     

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    Funny... I see it as the Direct Opposite.

    Because trying to Regulate Hardware is going to be Problematic. Whereas Regulating/Restricting e-Liquids that contain Nicotine kinda goes after the Head of the Snake.

    EHhhhhhnot if you effectively "ban" all hardware currently on the market produced after 2007...... ;)
     
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