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Just saying goodbye

Discussion in 'Vapor4Life' started by Mabbo, Oct 4, 2011.

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  1. Mabbo

    Mabbo Senior Member ECF Veteran

    May 16, 2010
    Just one last post to say thank you to V4L for helping me quit smoking.
    I started my journey to quit smoking with the help of V4L’s products and will be hitting my 2 year mark analog free soon. It has been great, and being a member of the forums here has given me great help and a wealth of information as I have progressed.

    Most of the people here have been very kind and pretty cool to chat with, but I am afraid that I will no longer be using the forums.

    Over the last 4 months, I have had to switch to a different vendor for all of my Vaping equipment, mostly due to the quality issues that seem to plaque V4L, from batteries that die too quick, horrible manual buttons that seem to go bad before the battery does, to faulty cool carts and so on. V4L has always been great about making it right, and their customer service has been fantastic, but in the end I need more than just great customer service, I need a solid product as well.

    I am a bit sad that in the end I have had to move on to more progressive vendors, and ones that seem to have a better handle on quality, but this is the way it works sometimes, and I have no hard feelings towards V4L.

    I would offer a few suggestions on my way out, whether they fall on death ears or not.

    1. Fix the battery issues, specially the manual button issues. It’s been almost 2 years and still the same issues persist. Think about offering new battery designs, would have loved to see a 650 Mah or higher batteries from you guys. I use 900 Mah’s now and they last all day and have fantastic buttons that work every time. It just so liberating to only have 1 battery to carry.

    2. Fix the cart issues, from the bad threads, bad post positions, labels covering holes, missing filler and being way too easy to burn just to name a few. How about mega carts? And getting a handle on the quality issues. I use mega carts now that do not burn and hold 2 times the juice as the cool carts.

    3. Cases. Still no PCC that holds the XL, and it’s been over a year and still no XL carry case that works. I know lots of design idea where posted on the forums and seem to have been generally ignored.

    Juices. Keep up the good work, love them and will still be buying them from you.

    All in all it has been a great ride, and I once again thank V4L for showing me the path to being analog free. I hope that the company continues to move forward, gets the issues fixed and progresses in their product line. Who knows, maybe they will have me as a customer once more down the line, but right now with the way things are its time for my departure.

    Happy vaping to all

  2. teslastick

    teslastick Super Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 16, 2010
    +1 I feel pretty much the same.. I still buy the peppermint (when it's in stock) from them. Been spending my monies elsewhere due to better hardware, longer lasting batteries and tank cartos. Was some talk of better products coming from v4l but that was like a very long time ago and only thing I've seen is a wall charger.......
  3. been there

    been there Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 30, 2011
    I sure hope v4life doesn't go out of business after you leave .
  4. jmpublius

    jmpublius Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 27, 2011
    Buffalo, NY
    Release the dragon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  5. VapingRulz

    VapingRulz Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 19, 2009
    I agree that V4L has the best e-liquid: 90% of the juice I vape is from V4L. I've had excellent luck with the Wow cartomizers, so no complaints from me there. A sleek PCC like the ones I see sold by other 808D-1 vendors would be nice but I'm not sure I'd use one much because I always carry 5-6 batteries in an eyeglass holder.

    The only point you've made that I strongly agree with is problems with batteries. They are not inexpensive and I now own several funky ones that work only when they feel like it or don't work at all - but most of the batteries I've bought work very well. It's fair to note that this battery issue is not unique to V4L; all of the battery vendors seem to have this problem. I bought two IGo batteries and one died within a month. Admittedly I dropped it on the floor, but I've done that with V4L batteries without a problem.

    I want to see a manual 5v battery from V4L or at the very least, a 650mah+ battery @ 3.7v. These are now the industry standard, so I'm not sure why it is taking SO LONG for V4L to jump on the bandwagon. I would prefer to carry one or two batteries with me, not 5 or 6. I can't wait much longer. I want better, longer-lasting batteries.
  6. Smugface

    Smugface Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 28, 2010
    NJ Shore
    V4L was one of the first companies I used when I started vaping. That didn't last too long though. I had a PT that the button went on 3 times and the last time they refused to replace it. Never ordered again from them.
  7. plantlvr

    plantlvr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 20, 2009
    Northern California
    I have been using V4L for most of my 2 year smoke free time, and I have to say that my batteries have been great and they are almost all autos. I've only had to send one back of at least 20.
    Good luck to you and happy vaping.
  8. keyzygirl

    keyzygirl ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Aug 10, 2009
    Key West,Fl.
    2 years for me too.I have tried alot of stuff from alot of suppliers and I wouldnt trade my V4L cartos and juice for anything else.They are the only thing that works for me consistantly everyday.Everyone needs to find what works for them.Whatever it takes to keep from smoking.V4L works for me.
  9. waylonjessi4ever

    waylonjessi4ever Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Mar 6, 2011
    Northern California
    Why you have to say goodbye ? you are still using v4l juices can join in !
    I've tried other juices ...meh .The taste was good on some but no vapor production and or throat hit at all ....or they clog my cartos ...I have ONE only that i use occasionally .The rest are v4l
  10. lambolover808

    lambolover808 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 11, 2009
    Apollo Beach, FL, USA
    I too cannot stand for a vendor to have "plaque" and "death ears". But scary visuals aside, I'm going to miss that gross squirrel genitalia..
  11. jeffree

    jeffree Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 18, 2010
    Stay well, Mabbo. Always enjoyed your thoughts. I don't post here as often as I used to, but this forum's special. Don't be shy about stopping back now and then.
  12. Iowa Gal

    Iowa Gal Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 13, 2010
    Central Iowa
    Take care and do visit from time to time....need to see that avi once in always makes me laugh:)
  13. Sallyem

    Sallyem Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 14, 2010
    Come back and say "hello" now and then Mabbo! Good Luck!
  14. EleanorR

    EleanorR Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Feb 9, 2011
    Treasure Coast
    I'm sorry for the hardware problems you've been having, Mabbo -- you seem to be hexed or something! :(

    Fortunately, I have not experienced the same . . . all my batts and CoolCartos have behaved most admirably! (And I personally prefer the higher voltage most of the time . . . I have marvelous regulated 3.6v batts, both slim and fat, but there's nothing quite like my XL Manuals fresh off the charger at 4.2v . . . :))
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