Kanger Conundrum

[The Cloud Minder]

Recently, I must have badly disassembled my Kanger Sub Tank. I lost the ball bearing in the airflow ring assembly, so I bought a new one, enameled in black. Now I also bought a bunch of the new ssocc coil heads.

So, I put it all together, load it up with juice and stupidly forget to wait for the wicking to saturate, fire it up and enjoy a nice lungful of burning wicking. Yum.

Open it back up, throw out that coil, replace with a new ssocc, WAIT for the wicking to saturate, and then fire it up.

Now, I've used it for about a day and a half, and my favorite ADV kind of tastes a bit blah. Checked myself on other Attys, no, not vape tongue, but my rich creamy custard juice tastes like it's been cut with unflavored VG and water.

The only thing that has really changed is that the coils are stainless steel, instead of kanthal. Same type of kanger sub tank (just a different color) same mod, same settings (even though I fiddled with the wattage to see if it made a difference, it didn't) same ohms, same juice, way suckier flavor.

I thought SS was supposed to give better flavor, what gives?

 

[DingerCPA]

I was under the impression that the "SS" refers to the casing of the coil head, not the wire itself. I just googled a bit, and most of the wire is Nichrome, unless you specifically get the Ni coils. The Clapton heads are kanthal......

To that end, I have been sporadically been using those heads as well. I'm not sure that I've noticed much flavor difference.....

I just toasted a Triton Mini coil because I got too impatient, so I feel that pain

 

[The Cloud Minder]

I was under the impression that the "SS" refers to the casing of the coil head, not the wire itself. I just googled a bit, and most of the wire is Nichrome, unless you specifically get the Ni coils. The Clapton heads are kanthal......

To that end, I have been sporadically been using those heads as well. I'm not sure that I've noticed much flavor difference.....

I just toasted a Triton Mini coil because I got too impatient, so I feel that pain

Ok, since I lazily didnt research this time, and was unsurprisingly lied to by the people at the B&M, I apparently don't know what the heck the coil is made of, it doesn't really matter. I just kniw it tastes poor. What were the koils that originally were put out for the KST, and do they still make them?

 

[The Cloud Minder]

OK, pulled out the box.

It clearly states in micronaut sized script that I had to pull out my cheaters to read: Stainless Steel Organic Cotton Coil (SSOCC)

So I guess last dude was wrong and my original complaint and question stand.

 

[DingerCPA]

There are the OCCs and the VOCCs. I think the VOCCs (bigger wicking hole and not as easy to rebuild) are more readily available.

 

[The Cloud Minder]

There are the OCCs and the VOCCs. I think the VOCCs (bigger wicking hole and not as easy to rebuild) are more readily available.

Right now, the ones I have in come out of the SSOCC box. What were the original coils that were first available, and are they still?

 

[DingerCPA]

These?

Kanger SubTank Vertical OCC Coils - 5 Pack - 0.5ohms (subohms) NEW

 

[Rangertrix]

Dinger is correct. On the SSOCC the casing is SS not the coil.

 

[jjatl]

OK, pulled out the box.

It clearly states in micronaut sized script that I had to pull out my cheaters to read: Stainless Steel Organic Cotton Coil (SSOCC)

So I guess last dude was wrong and my original complaint and question stand.

Dinger is correct. The SSOCC come in nichrome, nickel and Clapton kanthal. He is also correct when he says that the SS stands for the stainless steel in the outer casing, not the wire type.

I believe that the OCC and VOCC were nichrome, but I am not positive.

 

[DingerCPA]

Dinger is correct. The SSOCC come in nichrome, nickel and Clapton kanthal. He She is also correct when he she says that the SS stands for the stainless steel in the outer casing, not the wire type.

I believe that the OCC and VOCC were nichrome, but I am not positive.

I'm pretty sure the OCC and the VOCCs were/are nichrome....

 

[rice721]

Ive only tried the SSOCC pink o-ring coils on my toptank mini...and honestly the flavor on them is sub par. The only other 2 prebuilt coil clearos I have are the Crown and Herakles Plus, both blow the toptank out of the water in terms of flavor.

My RTAs also vape and taste miles better than the toptank. Just my observation. But since you said you had decent flavor in the beginning, I'm not sure what went wrong.

 

[Paul lamb]

I removed mine the airflow was perfect was a pain but worth it

 

[7sixtwo]

Dinger is correct. The SSOCC come in nichrome, nickel and Clapton kanthal. He is also correct when he says that the SS stands for the stainless steel in the outer casing, not the wire type.

I believe that the OCC and VOCC were nichrome, but I am not positive.

It sure would be nice if Kanger would clearly mark all of their replacement coil units with the wire used. The SS on the outside of the new "standard" red o-ring SSOCC's have caused many people to think that it contains a stainless coil. At least the newer Kanger mods have a nichrome TC setting that you can use with em.

 

[7sixtwo]

Ive only tried the SSOCC pink o-ring coils on my toptank mini...and honestly the flavor on them is sub par. The only other 2 prebuilt coil clearos I have are the Crown and Herakles Plus, both blow the toptank out of the water in terms of flavor.

My RTAs also vape and taste miles better than the toptank. Just my observation. But since you said you had decent flavor in the beginning, I'm not sure what went wrong.

Good RTA's should be expected to be better than the Toptank, (depending on your build, of course). Personally I think the SSOCC red rings are fine, while the nickel and especially the Claptons are better.

Imo, the biggest flaw of the Toptank system is how high the juice flow holes are. You have to refill your tank before it's really empty or get dry hits, (and ruin the coil). TC mode will alleviate this, but you can't use it with the Clapton coils, (my favorites).

Regardless, it's not a "bad" system, especially for something that comes in a well-priced, complete kit. I don't know that I would buy it separately, though.

 

[JackdawFool]

It's amazing how confused so many people are about the wire in the Kanger coils and how much misinformation keeps getting spread around. It's all Kanger's fault with naming them "SSOCC."

To clarify/correct what's stated above:

SSOCC does stand for stainless steel organic cotton coils and the SS here does refer to the casing of the coil, not the wire.

However, that doesn't mean the coil can't contain stainless steel wire!

If the actual coil itself is stamped with "SS", that IS referring to the wire in the coil. Kanger has SSOCC coils with stainless steel wire. They have a pink o-ring and ship with the toptank mini and topbox mini kit. They don't seem to be for sale yet separately. That's unfortunate because they work great in stainless steel temperature control mode.

If the coil itself is stamped with "NC" and has a red o-ring, it's nichrome wire. If it's stamped with "Ni" and has a blue o-ring, it's nickel. Lastly if it's stamped with "CL" and has a black o-ring, it's a Clapton coil using kanthal wire

 

[rice721]

What jack said. SSOCC, the SS stands for stainless steel of the casing of the coils.

If you want the wire to also be SS get the one with the pink o rings.