kayfun base shorting out? not reading ohms, need help

[RichRod]

about 2 weeks ago I had a kayfun base just stop working after working just fine. every coil i built it wasnt reading the ohms. the insulator looks like it isnt damaged, it was an Ivogo clone and i just assumed it was a dud. figured i would just use the rest of it for parts if i ever needed. well now my tobeco clone did the same thing! it was working just fine, i gave it a bath to rebuild it. did my typical 1.7 ohm coil, put it on my vamo to double check the ohms and boom 9.9 ohms, why are my bases shorting out? its so frustrating. i need help! nothing looks damaged, no posts are touching or anything like that. im down to my last kayfun if i cant fix these. i have 0 trouble with them and then after a rinse in water they just wont work anymore. anyone got any ideas? i need help! thanks ecf

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

They are wet? Let 'em dry thoroughly?

 

[RichRod]

i let the first one sit for a few days before trying again, still no success

 

[steved5600]

Sorry I apologize for this correction but i use to be a tech. Shorts would read as 0 ohms. LOL. What you describe is an Open.
Fist what kind of kayfun? Is is a lite or 3.1? Have you checked it with an ohm meter? If it's a lite they don't have an adj center pin and that mixed with the Vamo which IME has a twitchy center pin are combining to basically not make contact.
Other possibilities is dirty contacts but probably not. You can try to coax the center pin of the Vamo up some with a tiny screwdriver or paperclip. But the ohm meter is what i would use to help diagnose this.

 

[danca90]

Did you try reading it with a multi meter? The problem may be the vamo... My eh pro kayfun clone is running solid.

 

[Merryhellion]

My vamo quit reaching what I screwed onto it last week; lifting the center pin up has helped some but doesn't seem to be a final solution as it drops back down again. After blaming countless toppers, I isolated the problem to the mod itself. *mourn* and I did love that vamo so!

 

[RichRod]

Sorry I apologize for this correction but i use to be a tech. Shorts would read as 0 ohms. LOL. What you describe is an Open.
Fist what kind of Kayfun? Is is a lite or 3.1? Have you checked it with an ohm meter? If it's a lite they don't have an adj center pin and that mixed with the Vamo which IME has a twitchy center pin are combining to basically not make contact.
Other possibilities is dirty contacts but probably not. You can try to coax the center pin of the Vamo up some with a tiny screwdriver or paperclip. But the ohm meter is what i would use to help diagnose this.

when it reads 9.9 thats the vamos way of saying "no atty found" and it reads my other kayfun just fine at the moment. and they are all KFL's

and now just tried on my other vamo, my working kfl reads correctly and my non working one is still not reading ohms...so now we know it is the base. any other suggestions? or anyone know the cause or a solution?

 

[danca90]

Any other topper you can try on the vamo?

 

[RichRod]

Any other topper you can try on the vamo?

yes, its not the vamos both of them are reading ohms just fine on my other kayfun and rda's.

 

[autobiogphnation]

Check the center block to see if it's touching the negative. Screw holding center block in could have broken if you tightened it too much, happened to me before.

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[RichRod]

Check the center block to see if it's touching the negative. Screw holding center block in could have broken if you tightened it too much, happened to me before.

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the two blocks are not touching but where do i find that screw?

 

[autobiogphnation]

Is it a 3.1?

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[RichRod]

Is it a 3.1?

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no theyre all labeled kayfun lite's with the airflow on the side, so technically a r91?

 

[autobiogphnation]

Oh then I'm not sure. I have the 3.1, sounds like you have a kayfun lite plus.

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[RichRod]

Oh then I'm not sure. I have the 3.1, sounds like you have a kayfun lite plus.

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well yeah its a plus because it has afc, but technically i guess its a r91 because the airflow is on the side.

no one has had this happen or heard of it happening? ive tried google and cant find anything, its gotta be my fault but i dont know what im doing wrong. maybe i am building them too fast after washing? i rinse with warm water, dry the best i can and then build usually immediately. if their is still some water some where could this cause the kayfun to permanently stop working? this is my usual way of doing it and ive done it lots of times with no issues but then again i have 2 broken kayfuns in front of me could this be the cause?

 

[autobiogphnation]

How about a picture? It is probably not a r91, because that's be a clone of kfl+, so many it is a 3.1. Can you unscrew the center pin and open the bottom chamber?

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[Buster282]

sounds like you need to take the base completely apart. clean everything (no water). blow out all openings with air. inspect every thing. replace any damaged parts. reassemble. check with an ohm meter. is it OK? then build and install a coil. check again with an ohm meter. should help to narrow it down as to whats wrong. they do have repair kits for them - screws, o rings and insulator pads, center pin is available also. good luck

 

[Laylel]

sounds like you need to take the base completely apart. clean everything (no water). blow out all openings with air. inspect every thing. replace any damaged parts. reassemble. check with an ohm meter. is it OK? then build and install a coil. check again with an ohm meter. should help to narrow it down as to whats wrong. they do have repair kits for them - screws, o rings and insulator pads, center pin is available also. good luck

Sorry to break in, where can i find those. My KFL got bathed in oil, i did clean it like forever, and it got better when i did replace o-rings, but still has some after taste, i think insulator just suck it in, will like to replace it.

 

[Shootist]

Check the coil leg coming off the negative post that it is not touching the positive block. If you don't lift the coil a good amount, about 3mm or so, off of the air hole, center screw part, it can cause the negative leg touch the edge of that positive block.

 

[Maestro]

when it reads 9.9 thats the vamos way of saying "no atty found" and it reads my other kayfun just fine at the moment. and they are all KFL's

and now just tried on my other vamo, my working kfl reads correctly and my non working one is still not reading ohms...so now we know it is the base. any other suggestions? or anyone know the cause or a solution?

I think you're barking up the wrong tree. "No atty found" would indicate an open circuit, not a short. It sounds like the center pin is not making a connection to the mod. Take a meter and check resistance between the center pin and the outer part. If it shows normal, then it's definitely the connection.