Keeping it simple

[Breen]

I'm at a little over a month vaping but already feel like it's time to take another step, both in mod usage and nicotine reduction.

I have my eye on a relatively simple box mod that would essentially be one step up from my V8 stick mod. It's small, my tank fits it, it has wattage control, on/off and an external battery.

It seems like a good move, but I don't want to jump and find myself getting too complicated.

(Can't remember the name.)

I feel like I may vape more while getting used to lowered nicotine and the new box mod would be a great boon in this area, with my stick as a good back up.

Any thoughts?

 

[IMFire3605]

Getting a secondary device is a wise move, old vaping adage of backups for your backups so you are never stuck without a vape, especially with your short vaping journey thus far. Yes a variable adjusted device will work best in any scenario, depending on your wattage will determine basically your nicotine level, example going sub-ohm from standard ohm vaping (generally higher watts from the get go) most will step down to 1/2 their previous nicotine level. Due most times you are double the watts you are still basically getting the same nic per vape exposure, higher watts produces more vapor, more vapor = more nic exposure per volume, or close to it. Just remember, with an replaceable battery mod, consider what wattage you will be running will narrow down the list of what battery/batteries you will need, and also remember you will need an external charger for those batteries, and battery X2 the number the mod uses to run, example single battery mod = 2 batteries needed minimum (one in use, one charged or charging), 2 battery mod = 4 batteries (2 in use, 2 charging or charged).

Suggested batteries

20amps (50 to 60 watts max per battery, single battery 50 to 60 watts or lower, dual battery 100 to 120watts max or lower, etc) = Samsung 30Q, Sony VTC6, or LG HG2 (all 3000mah and around 20amps).
25amps (65 to 75watts max per battery, single battery 65 to 75watts or lower, dual battery 130 to 150watts or below, etc), Sony VTC5A (take note of the "A") 2500 to 2600 mah, LG HD2, HD2C, or HD4 2000 to 2200mah, all 25amp batteries.
30amps (80 to 90watts max per battery, single battery 80 to 90 watts or lower, dual battery 160 to 180watts or lower), LG HB2, HB4, HB6 all 1500mah true 30amp, do not fall for marketing gimmicks of a battery saying on its wrapper and label 35 or higher amps, there is no battery in 18650 format that exceeds 30amps Continuous Discharge Rating (CDR), any that claim higher are a lie and a danger (what we call re-wrap companies and are dangerous batteries if you even try to reach these false amp ratings in a CDR situation, stay with the Big Manufacturers with 18650 batteries (LG, Samsung, Sony/Kinion, Sanyo/Panasonic <-- Everyone else buys from these guys any way, much safer and cheaper to stay with these Big 4).

 

[Letitia]

Tell us what mod you are considering so we know what appeals to you. Also tell us what tank you are using and what nic level you are at. Did your V8 come with Baby Beast or Big Baby Beast ?

 

[Walee]

Watch reviews. A lot of them are just sales pitches and some of the reviewers are not the top bulb on the Christmas tree but you will get to see a lot of mods and get an idea of how they work.

 

[ScottP]

I'm at a little over a month vaping but already feel like it's time to take another step, both in mod usage and nicotine reduction.

Just a suggestion, but unless you are currently vaping at 20+ mg/ml, I wouldn't suggest lowering nic levels too soon. When coming off of cigs all the chemicals leave the body in different phases and each phase can bring a new round of cravings. Dropping the nic too soon has the potential to pull you back toward the dark side. Honestly I suggest staying at what ever level works until at least the 6 month mark if not a full year. Then start weening the nic levels down dropping like 3mg/ml every 3 to 6 months to get use to that level. JMHO.

 

[pfaber11]

I didn't cut down my nicotine for five years. A bit extreme but am now happily vaping on 4mg/ml. Best of luck with your quit.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

It took me six months total to go from 18mg/ml to 12, 12 to 9 and 9 to 6. That's where I am now and I'm in no hurry.

Getting another rig (or two!) is a good idea. Add another tank too in case you want to change flavors easily. Reaching for Thing #2 is a lot easier than clearing and filling with the new flavor.

 

[tj99959]

There is nothing wrong with a bit of nicotine. So don't get in a hurry with that.
Nicotine creates throat hit, so if you like TH, don't lower the nicotine.

My first bottle of e-liquid was 24mg. Made me dizzy! So I dropped to 12mg, and liked it. Seven years later I still vape 12mg, and have no intention of lowering it. ... because I still like it.

Here's the difference; I go through 3-4ml of e-liquid/day. Guys that use 6mg e-liquid go through twice as much e-liquid/day as a general rule. End result ... we both consume the same amount of nicotine/day. So the only difference is that I blow cirrus clouds instead of cumulus clouds.

 

[Breen]

Tell us what mod you are considering so we know what appeals to you. Also tell us what tank you are using and what nic level you are at. Did your V8 come with Baby Beast or Big Baby Beast ?

I can't recall the name or maker. I plan on going back to the shop to talk more to the people there about it.

The stick kit came with the big baby tank. I'm considering getting the bbb regardless of mod purchase.

Just a suggestion, but unless you are currently vaping at 20+ mg/ml, I wouldn't suggest lowering nic levels too soon. When coming off of cigs all the chemicals leave the body in different phases and each phase can bring a new round of cravings. Dropping the nic too soon has the potential to pull you back toward the dark side. Honestly I suggest staying at what ever level works until at least the 6 month mark if not a full year. Then start weening the nic levels down dropping like 3mg/ml every 3 to 6 months to get use to that level. JMHO.

Both the AIO and V8 sticks were made for subohm, so I started out on 6 mg. And already, I find myself needing to vape less, with the exception of idle time. My analog cravings haven't been terrible with the exception of when my old shop gave me the wrong coils for my stick.

It took me six months total to go from 18mg/ml to 12, 12 to 9 and 9 to 6. That's where I am now and I'm in no hurry.

Getting another rig (or two!) is a good idea. Add another tank too in case you want to change flavors easily. Reaching for Thing #2 is a lot easier than clearing and filling with the new flavor.

I've been planning getting a second tank. Maybe a third with my current nic level so if I meed a quick boost.

 

[Letitia]

If you wanting a couple more tanks get a kit. Wish you could remember mod. Pico kits are great. BBB is much better than BB IMO. I would not lower nic to 3mg just yet. Buy same flavor in 3 and 6mg. Mixed would bring you down to 4.5. Agree you should keep a tank for 6mg only.

 

[Grimwald]

I progressed up thru all of the normal steps until I got to relatively simple, single battery, wattage only box mods. That's where I stopped...and that was 3 years ago. KISS is a perfectly valid strategy.

 

[Hobbs]

Backups are good. But if you're looking for something new, as many do for years and years so don't feel like the lone ranger, you aren't/may not be happy with what you have. Took a while before I found EXACTLY what I was looking for (from what is/was available), but now happy with the devices I have (more than one). Wish you the best of luck getting it sorted.

 

[Breen]

Building seems interesting, but complicated and with a lot of fine motor control, which I don't have. (Arthritis)

Plus, I think simple just suits me best. The fact that I was able to stop smoking with a tiny AIO speaks volumes, I think.

Aside from that, I need to put my build budget towards telescope materials. Got two planned.

 

[Letitia]

Took me three years of enjoyable vapes to find my personal vaping style. Get something you'll be comfortable using and just enjoy it. I love the journey, but it doesn't have to be a journey for everyone.

 

[Breen]

Backups are good. But if you're looking for something new, as many do for years and years so don't feel like the lone ranger, you aren't/may not be happy with what you have. Took a while before I found EXACTLY what I was looking for (from what is/was available), but now happy with the devices I have (more than one). Wish you the best of luck getting it sorted.

Thanks! I think at this point, an AIO, the V8, and a simple box mod may be just right for me.

 

[B Chon]

Yeah I was in an almost identical scenario about 6 months ago. Don't hold back, you definitely want a back up.

You'll probably get the bug like I did, and spend all your damn disposable income on new stuff. My wish list has grown long since I got into building.

 

[Breen]

I get that bug with many things. While I enjoy vaping, I kind of hope this isn't one of them.

 

[stols001]

Breen, it certainly doesn't have to be. One main setup and a backup with a tank or two may be all many folks need, and it certainly doesn't have to be as expensive as (some of us) make it. It really depends on what you are looking for and your second device sounds like it will work well for you and if you are happy with what you are vaping, no need to make huge changes at this point....

Anna

 

[B Chon]

Breen, it certainly doesn't have to be. One main setup and a backup with a tank or two may be all many folks need, and it certainly doesn't have to be as expensive as (some of us) make it. It really depends on what you are looking for and your second device sounds like it will work well for you and if you are happy with what you are vaping, no need to make huge changes at this point....

Anna

I should note I have a bit of an obsessive personality

 

[Breen]

Update. I got a Wismec Sinuous P80, which turned out to be more complicated than I thought, and picked up a Toptank nano to go with it and an 18650 to power it.

I figure with my V8 still treating me right, I can simply use that while my P80 battery is charging.

I've looked up a few things and have carefully read the instructions, but a lot of new things to keep up with can be a bit intimidating.

Anyone have any quick and dirty tips for this mod and/or tank?