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roku vs kodi

i bought a roku a year or two ago. i used netflix and for a while, hulu. the rest available on roku was random crap, imho.

i then bought Playon. this is a server app that talks to roku, and lets you connect to various websites via user-submitted plugins. i could get 1channel and several other sites that offered "good stuff"

but then Playon stopped working on my PC. their support is hopeless.

then. i bought a kodi box out of frustration, and it was the best purchase i've made in a long time.

i rarely use my roku, except for maybe netflix.

i no longer see why anyone would choose roku over kodi, unless they are committed to paying monthly for sources for some strange reason.


tl;dr: kodi is miles better than roku

I think this post is going to be even more confusing for people.

Just to clarify, theyre two completely different things... Roku makes raspberry pi TV boxes, Kodi is a media player.

I'm pretty sure you can put kodi on a roku (jailbroken) box.

I need to start making a list of these Kodi add-ons, as they get mentioned here.

I'm new to Kodi, know hardly anything about Roku, SS, Shield, or anything else of that ilk... just don't watch TV much and don't play games either... well, on a computer anyway ;)

We have only one TV in the house, a little 24" flat panel hanging on the wall in the kitchen, with a FireTV stick bought on sale for $20.

I DL'd Kodi 16.x to my main laptop about a month ago, added Exodus, played with it for a few days, watched a few episodes of Barnwood Builders on DIY channel and some 'My Name is Earl', and haven't messed with it much since. Over the next few days/weeks though I plan to upgrade to v17, install a good skin, and spend more time with it.

I just need to go back and skim this thread and make notes this time around.

I've also done a little research on Plex too, thanks to @kiba !

Thanks everyone for your input!

Yeah Plex is great. I've been using it even before kodi. Now I use it with emby, official plex addon and plexbmc to stream all my movies and music to all my kodi boxes in the house. I basically have several external HD's with several terabytes of all my accumulated media, those are hooked up to my htpc in my bedroom, which is hosting the plex server. It's actually super easy to set up, then you just have to configure the boxes as clients.

When I actually have time to watch TV, I rather just dl a torrent in 4k than stream it with some addon in 720 or 1080 all stretched out. But the other people in my house do use the addons a lot.

Unfortunately most kodi boxes, if they can do 4k, are only able to do it at low framerates and its all choppy and makes you feel nauseated lol. This is the main reason I switched from fire TV boxes to shield tv boxes. Behind shadow play.
 
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and added No Limits following the vid below

OK, how do I get this off? Do Not Like...

Don't care for droids, heavy metal, fantasy, transformers, undead, zombies, XXX, etc. etc... and prefer the 'stock' Kodi 17 menu system over the (to me) confusing horizontal scrolling junk vis-a-vis v16.1

Also, it keeps 'force closing' Kodi or just dumping out.

ETA: I thought it was just a skin and some add-ons... didn't know it was going to change EVERYTHING!
 
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Crap!

Somehow, I got No Limits off and back to 'regular' Kodi, but lost Exodus and several other add-ons - none of which I remember how to put on without searching, reading, following sometimes arcane and overly complicated directions...... aaaauuuggggg.......

Now I remember why I put Kodi on, played with it a little, and LEFT IT ALONE FOR WEEKS!!!!

It's very complicated (to me) and I just don't have time or patience to fool with it right now... and don't know why I'm fooling with it to begin with. Don't watch TV anyway...
 

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I've been through a lot of those skins and builds and stuff. Imo the best build is your own build. plus, once youset up the repo's and install the addons you'll know what to do when some addons or a dependency dissappears or you have to fix something else.

As far as skins, I like the standard ones, confluence and now estuary... They are the lightest ones that use the least resources (which is helpful on a stick or box, but I guess not so much for an htpc) and have a much better UI.
 

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Mongo, thanks for the suggestions. I upgraded Kodi to v17, and added No Limits following the vid below. Is the Echo Wizard a good add-on too, or should I have found another way to add No Limits alone? TIA
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ETA:For anyone who doesn't want to turn your Kodi install UPSIDE DOWN, don't install the above, as I did. I thought it was just a skin and some add-ons... didn't know it was going to change EVERYTHING!

Due to RL, I've yet to load/test Kodi 17. But I've read/viewed 'nuff stuff to know I'll be building my own custom 17 setup on da laptop and den copy to Fire TV Sticks.

Da countless repos I've seen are so cluttered wid countless/worthless add-ons/whistles/bells!

BTW, check out adbLink and adbFire on YouTube fer Kodi build backups/restores. May prevent forehead/wall damage...


Looks painful to me! :confused:

Not if you're da malebox (sic)...
 

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Due to RL, I've yet to load/test Kodi 17. But I've read/viewed 'nuff stuff to know I'll be building my own custom 17 setup on da laptop and den copy to Fire TV Sticks.

I need to learn how to do that, would like to copy from laptop to tablet and FireTV sticks.

Da countless repos I've seen are so cluttered wid countless/worthless add-ons/whistles/bells!

I hear ya brudda! I also need to learn how to remove/uninstall junk - or just do more research first and avoid installing junk in the first place.

BTW, check out adbLink and adbFire on YouTube fer Kodi build backups/restores. May prevent forehead/wall damage...

Now there's some info I can use!... thanks Iphph... will def. look at that later.

Not if you're da malebox (sic)...

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I don't have a clue what you guys boxes are like but on mine if you do something that screws everything in Kodi up I just turn on my box and it takes me to a screen that controls the box itself go to My Addons>Kodi>Clear Data>back out to opening screen run SS updater>choose Adult or Family Friendly>Fresh Install and it reinstalls Kodi 16.1 with approved addons. Then go to Kodi let it sit for 10 min while it updates the addons. From there you can go to Video>Add Ons>More Addons and they have a couple of hundred addons that can be installed with one click if you want them. When I say approved addons it's addons that they have tested and work well with the box to include 1 channel, Specto, Exodus, Zen, Evolve, Phoenix, salts, Sports Devil and several others.
 

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OK, jumping in late on the thread, only because I didnt know it existed. I cut the cord long ago, got sick and tired of the annual cable haggling. Vultures, the whole lot of them.

Over the last year I upgraded my network to comfortably support streaming to anything I want.
  • Bought my own cable modem - Motorola MB7420
  • New Router - Netgear R7800
  • 3 Android TV boxes with Kodi, Netflix, HBONow, etc loaded. All 3 boxes in the $50 - $75 range, latest is a T96pro.
  • Backlit airmouse
  • Using TRAKT and REALDEBRID on Kodi (Exodus primarily)
  • Using NEWSLeecher to suck stuff down off the UseNet
  • Running PLEX as a home media server to serve my movie collection
  • And a digital TV antenna for local news.
Couldnt be happier!!

ETA: And an OBI box to handle telephone

My only problem, and it is no big deal, is that my Harmony Remote doesnt handle the Android TV Box Power On/Off toggle reliably.
 
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I don't have a clue what you guys boxes are like

Pat, respectfully:

Don't have a box, don't need a box, don't want a box... Kodi (and eventually probably Plex) on a PC is good enough for me, thanks.

Over the last year I upgraded my network to comfortably support streaming to anything I want.

Mike, thank you for that post... complete, concise, and to the point... and with all the relevant links to boot! :thumb:

Vultures, the whole lot of them.

Agreed... 100%
 

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I hated the new 17 skin. Went back to confluence. And I don't do builds either. Usually more of a PITA to figure out where everything is.
tbh I hate it too, its ok on my htpc but less remote-friendly than confluence. but it does add some better functionality, options and more configurable, if that's a word. so I'm trying to get used to it.
OK, jumping in late on the thread, only because I didnt know it existed. I cut the cord long ago, got sick and tired of the annual cable haggling. Vultures, the whole lot of them.

Over the last year I upgraded my network to comfortably support streaming to anything I want.
  • Bought my own cable modem - Motorola MB7420
  • New Router - Netgear R7800
  • 3 Android TV boxes with Kodi, Netflix, HBONow, etc loaded. All 3 boxes in the $50 - $75 range, latest is a T96pro.
  • Backlit airmouse
  • Using TRAKT and REALDEBRID on Kodi (Exodus primarily)
  • Using NEWSLeecher to suck stuff down off the UseNet
  • Running PLEX as a home media server to serve my movie collection
  • And a digital TV antenna for local news.
Couldnt be happier!!

ETA: And an OBI box to handle telephone

My only problem, and it is no big deal, is that my Harmony Remote doesnt handle the Android TV Box Power On/Off toggle reliably.
this is pretty much exactly how i'm set up, and also what I always recommend to friends who want to do this... only big difference is I have a separate router/network with openvpn for all the streaming, i'm using shield tv boxes, and I also have ps vue.

for my tv antenna (which afaik hasn't ever been used, but its there) I found an old pre-wired satellite dish on the roof and used that to get the signal to all of my wall outlets. I used one of the kits that turns a satellite dish arm into a 4k antenna.
 

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Ummm.......well...I purchased a refurbed tv, a 48". from Newegg......I thought...It arrived today...it's a 43 "...same as i already have....:oops:....so i just got done making a return label for it...guess it'll be a while:oops::rolleyes::confused:

I really CAN mess up a you-know-what.....

This post is in response to Legs question...today is not going well brain-wise!
 
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OK, jumping in late on the thread, only because I didnt know it existed. I cut the cord long ago, got sick and tired of the annual cable haggling. Vultures, the whole lot of them.

Over the last year I upgraded my network to comfortably support streaming to anything I want.
  • Bought my own cable modem - Motorola MB7420
  • New Router - Netgear R7800
  • 3 Android TV boxes with Kodi, Netflix, HBONow, etc loaded. All 3 boxes in the $50 - $75 range, latest is a T96pro.
  • Backlit airmouse
  • Using TRAKT and REALDEBRID on Kodi (Exodus primarily)
  • Using NEWSLeecher to suck stuff down off the UseNet
  • Running PLEX as a home media server to serve my movie collection
  • And a digital TV antenna for local news.
Couldnt be happier!!

ETA: And an OBI box to handle telephone

My only problem, and it is no big deal, is that my Harmony Remote doesnt handle the Android TV Box Power On/Off toggle reliably.

Howdy Mike ... nice to see you here. Did you bring coffee?
 

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I should have pointed out it really adds a bunch of stuff.

Hey Mongo, I consider my foray into unknown territory a great learning experience. Thanks! :thumbs:

I didn't have a lot of add-ons yet, mostly just Exodus, so I'm already back to where I started. In fact, I watched the first movie I've sat through in a long time this morning - around 3am!

Couldn't sleep so got up, piddled around a bit, then watched 'The Magnificent Seven' with headphones... (wife was asleep in the next room) :)

IMHO, good movie.
 

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Exodus is all I really ever use. Well, that and Netflix, HBONow, Amazon, and PLEX. I am not a big sports fan so I didnt seek out any of that stuff. In fact, the Android boxes came loaded with so many addons that I disabled most of them simply because I got tired of waiting through all of the automatic updates.

I do pay for HBO, and my SO pays for Netflix. I know I could get all of that content through Kodi but I dont mind paying for content I actually use.

At the end of the day I spent about $500 on hardware, and less than $40 in MRCs. I still get Internet only through the cable company. I was ahead of the game $$ wise about 4 months into this.
 
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