your bling charger should accommodate it with no problems just bend the little prongs out a bit.. its just a tiny bit shorter..
10 is the diameter the 430 is the length..
trog
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your bling charger should accommodate it with no problems just bend the little prongs out a bit.. its just a tiny bit shorter..
10 is the diameter the 430 is the length..
trog
Fitting the battery into the bling isn't the problem...it's that the Janty USB battery is too small to fit in the charger that came with the bling. But luckily I just got a DX charger in the mail too that fits any of those Li-Ion batteries. The sizes just have such subtle differences in size. It seems that the Bling ones and the extra Janty e-cigar ones I had ordered are the same size even though they have different code numbers, but the battery in the KB USB case is a tiny bit smaller than both of the other kinds.
Here ya go Trog..I mean I guess they are all compatible with that DX charger on the right and possibly all compatible with the USB-E cable for the KB, but the shorter KB battery is too short to charge in the Bling charger at the top. Weird how there are so many variations among the 4 purchases:
It's one from DealExtreme.com in China that a lot of people get to replace their E-Cigar battery since it might be a little better than the batteries that come with it.
OKAY....now, I need to get to the bottom of this thing. Whether it's been a few hours or a few weeks since I've been trying this KB Classic, I need to figure this weirdness out. Maybe some KB owners can help me.
I have been smoking this thing since I got it today trying to figure out why when I drip liquid without a cart (manual switch), it tastes fine puff after puff most of the time. BUT when I try to use it the normal way by topping off a cartridge, it tastes fine at first but after a few puffs, no matter what flavor cart or liquid is in the cart filler, it starts tasting like a mix of the liquid's flavor, saltiness, and a freakin' "camp fire" taste every time.
Trust me, it's not how it's supposed to taste. When I take the cart out and look at the filler inside after this, it seems darker in some spots almost like the atomizer is heating that part too much or something...but it's constantly giving off this odd mixed taste and I can't figure out what to do to make it stop. I can recreate the problem in the taste everytime just by using a cartridge the normal way. I think this is only with the manual switch but I haven't tried the auto enough to know. Again, dripping it with no cart, the taste pretty much stays on-spot. But with a cartridge it eventually and quickly starts tasting almost salty with a mix of the flavor and a campfire-ish smoky taste and (sometimes) smell accompanying it. Btw, have been using RY4 and/or French Pipe during this, which again, taste fine when dripping and in other e-cigs.
Anyone? I'm literally nauseous from this taste from trying it so much to figure this out. And please don't tell me to give it time or whatever cause I know this isn't right. Plus, for $150, I think it's okay to want to figure out why one of the primary appeals of this thing, the taste, isn't proper. Thanks.
EDIT: Yes, auto switch does it too when using a cart.
OKAY....now, I need to get to the bottom of this thing. Whether it's been a few hours or a few weeks since I've been trying this KB Classic, I need to figure this weirdness out. Maybe some KB owners can help me.
I have been smoking this thing since I got it today trying to figure out why when I drip liquid without a cart (manual switch), it tastes fine puff after puff most of the time. BUT when I try to use it the normal way by topping off a cartridge, it tastes fine at first but after a few puffs, no matter what flavor cart or liquid is in the cart filler, it starts tasting like a mix of the liquid's flavor, saltiness, and a freakin' "camp fire" taste every time.
Trust me, it's not how it's supposed to taste. When I take the cart out and look at the filler inside after this, it seems darker in some spots almost like the atomizer is heating that part too much or something...but it's constantly giving off this odd mixed taste and I can't figure out what to do to make it stop. I can recreate the problem in the taste everytime just by using a cartridge the normal way. I think this is only with the manual switch but I haven't tried the auto enough to know. Again, dripping it with no cart, the taste pretty much stays on-spot. But with a cartridge it eventually and quickly starts tasting almost salty with a mix of the flavor and a campfire-ish smoky taste and (sometimes) smell accompanying it. Btw, have been using RY4 and/or French Pipe during this, which again, taste fine when dripping and in other e-cigs.
Anyone? I'm literally nauseous from this taste from trying it so much to figure this out. And please don't tell me to give it time or whatever cause I know this isn't right. Plus, for $150, I think it's okay to want to figure out why one of the primary appeals of this thing, the taste, isn't proper. Thanks.
EDIT: Yes, auto switch does it too when using a cart.
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I received my first kissbox classic yesterday. I really thought it would be so great that I'd be jumping up and down wanting to shout from the rooftops how great it is but....I don't. It's ok but not great so far. I have been using the manual atomizer because my auto one seems not to work that great. Very little vapor and I'm not sure if this is normal or not. I have sucked as much as I can and yet the little red light goes out after 3 seconds and gives little vapor and taste.
I had no idea I was supposed to let the usb charge for 2-3 hours before using it...hmmm well it was working last night with no pre-charge?
The throat hit and taste is not that great compared to a generic penstyle even using the manual atomizer so I guess I paid $150 for the usb and car charger. Oh well it is only my first day using it; maybe it will get better. (crosses fingers)
Oh I have noticed the weird taste also; I believe that it is just overheating the fiber in the cart and creating that taste. I'm using RY4 also. I have only used it with a cart but noticed it does not happen when I drip some liquid on the atomizer first. (This also has happened with my penstyle from Jane but that one actually turns the fiber a dark brown. I haven't noticed the color change on the fiber yet with the KB, just the taste.)
I had no idea I was supposed to let the usb charge for 2-3 hours before using it...hmmm well it was working last night with no pre-charge?
The throat hit and taste is not that great compared to a generic penstyle even using the manual atomizer so I guess I paid $150 for the usb and car charger. Oh well it is only my first day using it; maybe it will get better. (crosses fingers)
Oh I have noticed the weird taste also; I believe that it is just overheating the fiber in the cart and creating that taste. I'm using RY4 also. I have only used it with a cart but noticed it does not happen when I drip some liquid on the atomizer first. (This also has happened with my penstyle from Jane but that one actually turns the fiber a dark brown. I haven't noticed the color change on the fiber yet with the KB, just the taste.)
Haha you and me seem to be on the same level for more than one thing lately...
Not sure about your vapor problem but the taste problem I can relate to as I said above. I tried really hard to fix the taste issue: new cart, new liquid, every battery, both switches, blah blah..I even pulled the filler out to make it stick out a bit before putting the cartridge on, but no go. No matter what it would get this awful, butter/camp fire/salty/smoky taste that wouldn't go away at all. The filler would get a darker brown too like you said.
It definitely messed with my taste buds as now I am having a hard time enjoying e-smoking all day..I'm sure it will come back though. It's possible that something was up with the atomizer but I'm not sure since you have the same issue. I actually ended up sending the KB kit back and it gave me an excuse to finally order a Screwdriver which I did earlier today
Will report back.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Kissboxes overall, but at least mine wasn't really working to my liking..something was just...off...about the taste- for sure. Don't let that deter anyone from trying one out though!
Not sure about your vapor problem but the taste problem I can relate to as I said above. I tried really hard to fix the taste issue: new cart, new liquid, every battery, both switches, blah blah..I even pulled the filler out to make it stick out a bit before putting the cartridge on, but no go. No matter what it would get this awful, butter/camp fire/salty/smoky taste that wouldn't go away at all. The filler would get a darker brown too like you said.
It definitely messed with my taste buds as now I am having a hard time enjoying e-smoking all day..I'm sure it will come back though. It's possible that something was up with the atomizer but I'm not sure since you have the same issue. I actually ended up sending the KB kit back and it gave me an excuse to finally order a Screwdriver which I did earlier today
Will report back.I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Kissboxes overall, but at least mine wasn't really working to my liking..something was just...off...about the taste- for sure. Don't let that deter anyone from trying one out though!
Haha yeah, now it's gonna be tested by the common users like me who always have ridiculous problems with the e-cigarettes they buy! Haha nah, j/k I'm sure it's just as good as they say. All that matters to me is how long those batteries last and that it's using the only e-cig atomizer that's ever tasted good and worked for me...a 901's. Also, I love that it has the manual switch like the KB Classic because even though I had to return my KB, I loved having the switch. I'm really excited to try it Trog!
Are those the only two e-cigs out there that have manual switches??
Are those the only two e-cigs out there that have manual switches??
apart from the DX cheapo cigar i think they are.. at least at the moment..
your coming gizmo will work okay have no fear.. have a read of the user advice instruction first thow.. then smoke the crap out of it... he he
trog
ps.. i wont say any more in here being as it a janty thread.. best of luck..
your coming gizmo will work okay have no fear.. have a read of the user advice instruction first thow.. then smoke the crap out of it... he he
trog
ps.. i wont say any more in here being as it a janty thread.. best of luck..
Hello. Been lurking for a few weeks, reading and getting informed, but now that my KB has finally arrived today, I'm coming out.
This being my first e-cig ever, I guess so far I'm pretty impressed, despite the atrocious battery charge wait.
Ludo: Why oh why does the charger only take in one battery? If I'm charging anyway, i might as well get them both juiced up. I can imagine that there are economical reasons for why you might not want to make this a standard feature, but perhaps an option for a double charger might work.
Am curious about feedback on the following issues:
- Carts seem UBER wet on the sides, drops of liquid on the sides always. I tried several flavors and ended up with a weird mix of all of them because of this. I assume that if I leave it out vertically to drain onto a tissue, this gets sorted.
- Some carts just won't click. This is very annoying since i tend to hold the thing in my teeth, and if the cart isn't in well I worry about the atomizer and the rest of it falling off the cart. Are these carts just borked? Or should I push like crazy?
- Last but not least... is it me, or are the Janty flavors lack-luster? I've tried Mint, Apple, Coffee, Vanilla and Virginia. Of these Virginia had the strongest flavor, the mint comes in second, but it is a long ways away. Are the tastes supposed to be no more than a hint of a trace of an aftertaste? Are other juices far better when it comes to taste.
This being my first e-cig ever, I guess so far I'm pretty impressed, despite the atrocious battery charge wait.
Ludo: Why oh why does the charger only take in one battery? If I'm charging anyway, i might as well get them both juiced up. I can imagine that there are economical reasons for why you might not want to make this a standard feature, but perhaps an option for a double charger might work.
Am curious about feedback on the following issues:
- Carts seem UBER wet on the sides, drops of liquid on the sides always. I tried several flavors and ended up with a weird mix of all of them because of this. I assume that if I leave it out vertically to drain onto a tissue, this gets sorted.
- Some carts just won't click. This is very annoying since i tend to hold the thing in my teeth, and if the cart isn't in well I worry about the atomizer and the rest of it falling off the cart. Are these carts just borked? Or should I push like crazy?
- Last but not least... is it me, or are the Janty flavors lack-luster? I've tried Mint, Apple, Coffee, Vanilla and Virginia. Of these Virginia had the strongest flavor, the mint comes in second, but it is a long ways away. Are the tastes supposed to be no more than a hint of a trace of an aftertaste? Are other juices far better when it comes to taste.
-The carts I had for the KB also came very wet on the sides and it was mixing with the primer or whatever the black liquid crap is and getting that all over the sides every time you put a cart in and took it out...very eww.
- I had the same problem with the KB carts..they were almost all very hard to click in without feeling like you broke something.
-Yeah see I had that same lackluster taste problem with certain e-cig devices in the past...some just don't work great or have a problem that lessens or distorts the taste. Every flavor pretty much (save for some Johnson Creek ones) are very easy to taste and are strong..especially Janty ones. So far the only device that truly gave me the real and strong taste of every liquid I tried is my 901..I think its atomizer is the best because of that. Some other ones though don't allow you to taste the flavor nearly as strong. Try out a DSE901 Mini from one of the sites.
Sorry to be OT.
- I had the same problem with the KB carts..they were almost all very hard to click in without feeling like you broke something.
-Yeah see I had that same lackluster taste problem with certain e-cig devices in the past...some just don't work great or have a problem that lessens or distorts the taste. Every flavor pretty much (save for some Johnson Creek ones) are very easy to taste and are strong..especially Janty ones. So far the only device that truly gave me the real and strong taste of every liquid I tried is my 901..I think its atomizer is the best because of that. Some other ones though don't allow you to taste the flavor nearly as strong. Try out a DSE901 Mini from one of the sites.
Sorry to be OT.
Wow........ I'm speechless.
You've owed a kiss box for a few hours and sent it back to Jeff.
How many carts did you use in those few hours?
And you see 'black liquid crap" on the outside of the cards?
geezz I like to see a pic. of that, because I never saw that for sure.
I use one card or less a day, and you used many, because you changed them "every time".
I see this no more as a Janty bashing.
I also remember an other thread you asking endless questions about the kiss, and you ended up buying an other device.
Because you did not have that much money.
Then all of a sudden you do own a kiss, and this is it.
Wow.
You like attention don't you?
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How many carts did I use in that day? I TESTED plenty of them to try to figure out the problem and try to make it have a normal taste, but it didn't want to cooperate. I tried different flavored carts, empty carts which I filled up completely with my own liquid..every time I did anything and smoked a few times, it would come up with this stomach-churning taste that made me hate those flavors for the time being.
It's like if you have way too much tequila and then have the worst puking night and morning after that, you are probably gonna hate the taste or even though of tequila after that.
I'm not bashing Janty at all...everything else I've ever gotten from them has been perfect.
And the only reason I got another pen style to try before the KB was because it was nice and I wanted to try it out first before shelling out $150+ for a Janty...and that one happened to not work out either, barely had any vapor production, whether there was a problem with the 2 atomizers I got with it or it just wasn't what I was expecting. So that's why I sprung for the KB.
Put it this way, my 901 that I always rave about has always had near-perfect flavor compared to what the liquid in it is supposed to taste like, and near-perfect vapor production. So when I get a new device, yes..even if it should not be compared to a 901 because they are different...if that new one doesn't even come close to the flavor and vapor of my 901, I just know I won't ever come to like it. Why would I want to spend 3 times as much money on a pen style or whatever from somewhere, when my $45 901 is producing way better flavor and vapor and the parts for it are lasting long?
The only reason I am still on this mission to find a better device than that 901 is because I want the better battery and cart life. The KB had that but something was wrong messing up the taste no matter what I did, even after cleaning the atomizer, among other things. I didn't feel like waiting for a replacement part because I've done that before with other ones to no avail and I hate waiting (lol). So I figured I should look for something else since the thought of that taste just makes me cringe now. Besides, that's why they have return policies if you are unsatisfied.
Again, NOT bashing Janty at all..I love their service as well as everything else I have bought from there. This one thing just didn't work out though...gladly, several other buyers are happy with theirs so that's all that matters.
EDIT: Whoa whoa, you are saying you don't believe that there was liquidy black stuff around the cart every single time I took it out? You better fu*kin believe it kid because it's true. Every single time I took any cart out there was black **** running down the sides mixed with the e-liquid. And it wasn't from the cart, it was from the atomizer. I'm sure that was part of the taste problem. How dare you doubt what I say, I'm the most honest person you will ever meet. Other people on here have even claimed the same problem dude...go research a little.
In fact, there was even long pieces of glue-like stretchy stuff shoved down on each side of the bridge in the atomizer...I was barely able to grab every little piece out with a tweezer after 20 minutes of working on it. It was practically blocking the thing from working. I was in shock every time I reached down there with the tweezer and came up with more of this glue-looking ****. I didn't want to make it sound worse than it really was but when people say "ooohh I don't believe you" I feel I have to tell it all. So no offense, but get off my ... man.
It's like if you have way too much tequila and then have the worst puking night and morning after that, you are probably gonna hate the taste or even though of tequila after that.
I'm not bashing Janty at all...everything else I've ever gotten from them has been perfect.
And the only reason I got another pen style to try before the KB was because it was nice and I wanted to try it out first before shelling out $150+ for a Janty...and that one happened to not work out either, barely had any vapor production, whether there was a problem with the 2 atomizers I got with it or it just wasn't what I was expecting. So that's why I sprung for the KB.
Put it this way, my 901 that I always rave about has always had near-perfect flavor compared to what the liquid in it is supposed to taste like, and near-perfect vapor production. So when I get a new device, yes..even if it should not be compared to a 901 because they are different...if that new one doesn't even come close to the flavor and vapor of my 901, I just know I won't ever come to like it. Why would I want to spend 3 times as much money on a pen style or whatever from somewhere, when my $45 901 is producing way better flavor and vapor and the parts for it are lasting long?
The only reason I am still on this mission to find a better device than that 901 is because I want the better battery and cart life. The KB had that but something was wrong messing up the taste no matter what I did, even after cleaning the atomizer, among other things. I didn't feel like waiting for a replacement part because I've done that before with other ones to no avail and I hate waiting (lol). So I figured I should look for something else since the thought of that taste just makes me cringe now. Besides, that's why they have return policies if you are unsatisfied.
Again, NOT bashing Janty at all..I love their service as well as everything else I have bought from there. This one thing just didn't work out though...gladly, several other buyers are happy with theirs so that's all that matters.
EDIT: Whoa whoa, you are saying you don't believe that there was liquidy black stuff around the cart every single time I took it out? You better fu*kin believe it kid because it's true. Every single time I took any cart out there was black **** running down the sides mixed with the e-liquid. And it wasn't from the cart, it was from the atomizer. I'm sure that was part of the taste problem. How dare you doubt what I say, I'm the most honest person you will ever meet. Other people on here have even claimed the same problem dude...go research a little.
In fact, there was even long pieces of glue-like stretchy stuff shoved down on each side of the bridge in the atomizer...I was barely able to grab every little piece out with a tweezer after 20 minutes of working on it. It was practically blocking the thing from working. I was in shock every time I reached down there with the tweezer and came up with more of this glue-looking ****. I didn't want to make it sound worse than it really was but when people say "ooohh I don't believe you" I feel I have to tell it all. So no offense, but get off my ... man.
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LOL and you did all that within 24 hours of receiving and returning your kiss box.
Did you get anything else done today, beside using tweezers for 20 minutes on an brand new atomizer from Janty, cleaning a brand new atomizer and replacing cartridge after cartridge, and empty carts and filling them with your own liquid.
I guess you did not take the time to charge all the batteries they way you're suppose to.
Maybe the tequila got to you.
And dude I'm not a dude.
Now I'm going to be watching tv, see who the new president is going to be.
Did you get anything else done today, beside using tweezers for 20 minutes on an brand new atomizer from Janty, cleaning a brand new atomizer and replacing cartridge after cartridge, and empty carts and filling them with your own liquid.
I guess you did not take the time to charge all the batteries they way you're suppose to.
Maybe the tequila got to you.
And dude I'm not a dude.
Now I'm going to be watching tv, see who the new president is going to be.
I had the one battery on charge the whole time while the other was sitting waiting for its charge, so I was using the USB chord and a fully charged 10440 battery in it...good enough for ya? That's just as good as the regular battery as it was still operating normally...so no problems there. The liquid was becoming vapor, that's all there is to it.
I had no work yesterday so I spent from the time of delivery (1 pm) till late late at night and half of today doing all this stuff...an ample amount of time to try everything as I am familiar with every method of troubleshooting an e-cig problem from owning them and from reading the forum.
Is there a reason you are still trying to talk back like I did something wrong? You're making me be an ... to you by being an ... to me for no reason...unnecessary. I just happen to be an enthusiastic fan of these things so I move quickly on anything that has to do with them.
I had no work yesterday so I spent from the time of delivery (1 pm) till late late at night and half of today doing all this stuff...an ample amount of time to try everything as I am familiar with every method of troubleshooting an e-cig problem from owning them and from reading the forum.
Is there a reason you are still trying to talk back like I did something wrong? You're making me be an ... to you by being an ... to me for no reason...unnecessary. I just happen to be an enthusiastic fan of these things so I move quickly on anything that has to do with them.
Hi just.....i can verify the same issue as i have recently received a replacement atomiser from Janty and i cant get rid of the primer taste. carts are also like you describe,i didnt have this problem with my other 2 atomisers so i guess we were unlucky, i gonna email harry and see what he say's about it.
I think it's a shame you had to send it back because it normally performs so well and without that prob i'm sure you would of been well chuffed, never mind m8, but you do have every right to send back a product you are not happy with, dont see this as bashing Janty at all..........isn't this the point of this forum to post good and bad experiences, yes i think so........
Thanks doggsie, at least someone understands that if there's things you don't immediately like about a $150+ product, and you know those things will always bother you, then it's totally okay to return it and go try something else. I mean if the main point of the thing isn't working the way you expected it or wanted it to, why keep it any longer? Like I said, I move fast with things like that because it's a lot of money to some people. It's hard to let things linger and feel uncertain when you might want to spend your money elsewhere.
I am getting the same problem at the moment, with my KB carts recently. I believe I am over-heating the coil (by trying to get enough vapour) with repeated short intakes on the automatic. After inspecting the carts it looks like the filling is getting completely roasted; it's diminished in volume and is black. I have also noticed dark brown liquid residue on the sides of the cartridge on removing it.
I'm dripping on it at the moment to get around this, it's not ideal because I have rather a lot of Janty carts, but I'll probably just syringe the contents into bottles. I won't want to return it because I'm actually quite happy with it as a drip-pen, but I can see why you might not be.
I've ordered one of Trogg's Screwdrivers so I'll see how I get on with that
I'm dripping on it at the moment to get around this, it's not ideal because I have rather a lot of Janty carts, but I'll probably just syringe the contents into bottles. I won't want to return it because I'm actually quite happy with it as a drip-pen, but I can see why you might not be.
I've ordered one of Trogg's Screwdrivers so I'll see how I get on with that
Yeah same was happening to my carts, on the inner sides of the filler it was turning brown only after a few inhales with the manual switch..it was definitely overheating/cooking that stuff. It seemed like the main cause of all the problems I had mentioned was that the atomizer was cooking everything too much too fast..I think. The taste would be affected by that every time.
I also ordered a Screwdriver in hopes that it will be the answer to my problems. I figure if the best experience I've gotten so far (usually) is with my 901b, then at least the taste part of it can't be bad with the Screwdriver which uses the same atomizer. Add that to the better battery and switch, and I can't really foresee a problem. But then again the fact that there's a manual switch like the KB, I hope it also doesn't cook things too much or anything! We'll see soon...
I also ordered a Screwdriver in hopes that it will be the answer to my problems. I figure if the best experience I've gotten so far (usually) is with my 901b, then at least the taste part of it can't be bad with the Screwdriver which uses the same atomizer. Add that to the better battery and switch, and I can't really foresee a problem. But then again the fact that there's a manual switch like the KB, I hope it also doesn't cook things too much or anything! We'll see soon...
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