After viewing a handful of youtube videos from one "GrimmGreen", I decided I wanted to try a Nebula. However, it was a little expensive from the place suggested in the video (Though Ben was very nice and understanding when I asked to retract my order. I will be buying some juice from him Friday). I bought a pair of KR808D-1 from Vapor Kings and a pack of Camel. It was cheaper cause there was no box, just all the goodies in a small ziplock bag. With the "out of box" charge provided on this thing, It lasted atleast 4 hours (I plugged it in when I got home so I may have gotten alot more). This thing is amazing. Great Vapor, throat hit, lightweight, feels natural, good flavor andits black so thats a plus (though they come in different colors). The only thing i thought was weird is that when you blow into the fake ash end it for some reason completes the circuit and starts the e-cig. No idea why. Regardless, I love it. Come friday I'm getting a passthru, some juice from Vapornine and some blank carts.