Last chance for Hawaii

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I just received the following email from Eciggity, a local vendor:

Hawaii Residents!
THE HAWAII VAPOR INDUSTRY IS IN DANGER AND WE NEED YOUR HELP!

BILL SB2654 is currently in conference between the Senate and House Members and is close to being passed!

SB2654 WILL ADD A MINIMUM OF 70% TAX ON eliquid AND WILL BAN YOU FROM ORDERING vaping PRODUCTS ONLINE.

PLEASE CONTACT REPRESENTATIVE JOHN MIZUNO!
Please let him know how this bill will affect you!

When contacting him, PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL AND COURTEOUS.

Email him at: Repmizuno@capitol.hawaii.gov
and place a follow up call to his office at:
808-586-6050

PLEASE MAKE SURE TO PLACE THE FOLLOW UP CALL​

Why so late, Eciggity? And - not trying to blame anyone, but why no warning from CASAA like in the past? (Yeah, I'm just sour...)

I'll do my share tomorrow, but this thing is already in conference committee. Me thinks the fix is in. Guess I'll have to resort to DIY and pickup up bottles of nic before the effective date of the act.

Last chance for Hawaii. Here's the latest draft:

https://legiscan.com/HI/text/SB2654/id/1776863/Hawaii-2018-SB2654-Amended.html

I'm angry and depressed....

 

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Man is this a joke? The very last section of the latest draft says:

SECTION 13. This Act shall take effect on July 1, 3000.

I'll be long gone by then.... Too good to be true.

 

[Rossum]

Guess I'll have to resort to DIY and pickup up bottles of nic before the effective date of the act.

It would be wise to have a stash and learn how to use it even if they weren't threatening this. The FDA's Deeming reg would have killed the e-liquid market by this August anyway if the current administration hadn't delayed the PMTA deadline.

Man is this a joke? The very last section of the latest draft says:

SECTION 13. This Act shall take effect on July 1, 3000.

That date is a place-holder. It will be revised.

 

[stols001]

Yes I understand the frustration concerning trying to keep up with all the legislation and regulation concerning vaping. I would agree that you should fight the good fight, and I will submit comments.

I find myself less frustrated during advocacy if I feel "safe" myself, so stockpiling some if you can may be a good idea. Flavors will be available although it may be possible that one may have to do some conversion processes to make them "work" for vaping, so I'd probably focus on nicotine.

I hope the idea fails, but I hope that about many things vape. Good luck, and I'm sorry to hear about the proposal.

Anna

 

[zoiDman]

From the 4-7-2018 version of the 1-20-2018 Introduced Bill...

The purpose of this part is to:

(1) Make unlawful the shipment of tobacco products to anyone other than a licensee;

(2) Make unlawful the transport of tobacco products ordered through remote sale to anyone other than a licensee;

(3) Include e-liquid within the definition of "tobacco products", as used in the cigarette tax and tobacco tax law, thereby:

(A) Subjecting e-liquid to the excise tax on tobacco products;

(B) Requiring retailers of e-liquid to obtain a retail tobacco permit to sell, possess, keep, acquire, distribute, or transport e-liquid;

(C) Prohibiting persons from engaging in the business of wholesaling or dealing e-liquid without first obtaining a license from the department of taxation; and

(D) Applying other requirements of chapter 245, Hawaii Revised Statutes;

Hawaii SB2654 | 2018 | Regular Session

 

[deb51]

Downunder one cannot purchase any products containing nicotine,so all must be imported from overseas,
Even though some politicans support legalising the majority didn't so the TGA our FDA,put the stoppers on back in late March.So those of us who use ecigs are actually breaking the law as nicoyine is a S7 poison.
Also,different states & territories have different rules regarding owning ecigs & flavoured ejuices (without nicotine) as they are concerned children may start vaping.
Too much publicity makes it all worse.
BUT it is legal to buy cigarettes....

 

[Rossum]

Downunder one cannot purchase any products containing nicotine,so all must be imported from overseas,

BUT it is legal to buy cigarettes....

If one can afford them.

 

[marianna]

Downunder one cannot purchase any products containing nicotine....

Their climat is great for tobacco plants! So they can grow their own plants in the garden or in pots on the balcony or on the roof. Harvest, as soon as the leaves are big enough, submerge under water, nicotine floats upwards.

 

[Rossum]

Their climat is great for tobacco plants! So they can grow their own plants in the garden or in pots on the balcony or on the roof. Harvest, as soon as the leaves are big enough, submerge under water, nicotine floats upwards.

Windmills do not work that way.

 

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Looks like the bill may have died in Conference Committee:

Hawaii SB2654 | 2018 | Regular Session

http://lrbhawaii.org/par/pub/deadlines.pdf

I'm hopeful that the tracking is up-to-date. It's already the 28th and they're usually pretty good about it.

I'm also grateful that CASAA finally kicked in with an emailed warning - which included links and an appropriate suggested response.

 

[marianna]

Windmills do not work that way.

Correct. It's a DIY-job.
But I did not do that, cause I used the leafs to make my own shag, sprinkled with a bit of honey... great!

 

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Update:

Received a response from Senator Roz Baker who wrote that the bill died in Conference Committee but that they dealt with “these matters” in another bill. She did not identify the bill they used. (Surprise, surprise, surprise...)

I just wrote back and asked what they did and what bill they used as a vehicle. I suspect that they tied it to a bill that MUST be passed - for example the budget bill - so that members have to vote for the bill even if they disagree with the provisions that adversely affect vapers. SOP.

Seems my hope was short-lived. I may be frequenting the DIY forum in the near future; I may have to get up to speed quickly.