Lava Tube: Better and cheaper than the Provari (video opinion)

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araczynski

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"IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY"

Really! Another thread castigating the Provari to promulgate the virtues of the Lavatube. We all need that like another hole in the head.

Let the Lavatube stand on its own merit. If it is a superior product that provides more bang for the buck, the market will decide and the Provari will go the way of the horse and buggy.

Personally, I don't care what pv one uses as long as the objective is met: GETTING OFF ANALOGS. If the Lavatube works for you, God bless you.

peace-out,

you sir, belong on the Internet 2.0, logic and reasoning are not allowed here on 1.0.
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I read somewhere on the provari thread that the newer booster chips the cut off is between 2.5-2.8 amps, vape360 posted it a thread somewhere I went looking for it and can't find it now. but that must be the case because I can do a 1.5 dual coil at 4.2 the carto ohms at 1.6 but that's still 2.62 amps

Even though it's rated at 2.5 amps users could likely and have gotten a little more out of it. That happens with electronic specifications and I've read the same with the LT as well. From the results many users are seein it seems both are rated on the conservative side which can only be a good thing.
 

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mixed messages here, so are the 510 Dual Coil 1.5 (+-0.2ohm) safe on the lavatube at say 4.2 volts?

They are safe on either, you just won't get the full voltage ranged with using them. The Provari will cut off with an error message when the limit is reached and the LT will trottle the current back to a safe operating level when the limit is reached. No worries with either mod, protection is built in.
 

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1.5ohm dual coil on my lava tube meters at 3.64 volts no matter what the voltage is set at. you know what I just changed the battery and now I'm getting 4.1v with that 1.5ohm carto so I guess it matters how much charge is left in your battery, the battery was reading 3.6v when I swapped it

Yes quality, type, age and charge with batteries can play a huge roll, even on mods using Buck circuity but more so with Boost because we're only using one battery. That's why it's recommended to use IMR which is capable of higher current draws with a Boost circuit. We're often pushing the current limit with boost with some of the stuff we try even at lower voltages, the battery can make a big difference at those times.
 

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I think it's great the Provari has the Lave Tube as competition. I HATE Monopolies more than I hate oysters (and I'm a Cajun).

Provari fanboys think of the Provari as the Cadillac of the vaping world. Of course this is just hype. I see how weak minded some people are to buy into the advertising tactics - they don't just buy the Provari because they really need the features of the stainless steel body or the ohm meter (If they did it would be different) but some folks will buy into the idea that it's a superior product and they must have it and of course it Must be better because it's expensive yada yada yada. Those people got played like a string fiddle. It's this mindset I don't like to see as I believe it hurts the community as a whole. To have so many people in your face saying you must have this most expensive PV even though it's got many poor design flaws does a disservice to others. It's gives people false impressions.

Perhaps the Provari people will learn from this as one poster suggested and make a better product. I doubt it. The company is plagued with the mindset that it has to stay the top and must therefore produce the highest quality (unproven) product that you must pay out the nose for. Like I said, make the Lava tube Stainless Steel and prove you can have an equal product for a much cheaper price reveals the Provari people to be the thieves they are. I honestly believe they can produce a better product cheaper without cutting corners and that they either have made some really bad materials/manufacturing decisions that cause them to charge so much or because they think they are the cats meow and see the money rolling in, they simply do not care.

I don't care who you are or what you say to me. no one is ever going to convince me the Provari price tag is justified.
 

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From an above post, "better" should be removed from the discussion. If the drain on the battery causes a reduction of voltage, the electronics must be inferior in the LT as the Provari provides the same voltage reguardless of battery usage. Add the superior craftsmanship and materials of the Provari, I don't see these as directly compairable. Kind of like saying a Corvette is superior to a Lambo, because more can afford the Vette. Really not compairing oranges to oranges.
You can vape what ever you want, cheap chinese plastic or solid American steel.

Just my .02!

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Mindfield also owns both and did a pretty detailed comparison review, there are others as well.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...review-knight-rider-lava-tube-vs-provari.html

Just watched this review, and have to say it is by far the best side by side comparison between the two. Very honest and clear that the two are not in the same class. Conclusion, Provari=very high quality materials / perfect fit and finish / great functionality / a cumbersome menu system, but clean appearence w/one button.
LavaTube="BUDGET" tube mod / aluminum tube w/plastic caps, not as sturdy, but advantage of weight reduction / fit and finish is budget quality, little attention to detail as noted by the alignment of the 510 adaptor / ease of use with 4 buttons rather than menu.

each have their virtues, but saying one is better than the other is like comparing a casio to a rolex.


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Add the superior craftsmanship and materials of the Provari, I don't see these as directly compairable....You can vape what ever you want, cheap chinese plastic or solid American steel.

no wonder most companies are sending their work orders over to asialand, the days of the average consumer paying $100 extra for superior craftsmanship of 5 inches a stainless steel tubing are dwindling ;)
 

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its like comparing 2 cars side by side. both do the same things, they "get you there" by filling it up. they dont look the same, some are made cheaper and some simply cost more because of the time it took to design the thing and precision/quality of materials. now...the car will still get me from point a to point be regardless of the fender is made out of high quality/precision metal.
if i wanted to arrive "with style" i would make sure i have the bling-bling car....if not? here i come lavatube.

the market will carry both units and both are good.
 

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each have their virtues, but saying one is better than the other is like comparing a casio to a rolex.
Thought provoking.
I don't have a Pro Vari or a LT. I do have 2 Buzz Pros that I like alot.
I also have 2 Rolex's, An 18K day-date (president) and a gold/stainless datejust, and about 10 other watches. My favorite watch?, a $300 titanium Citizen. I think it's a better watch, and it cost less than servicing a Rolex. It's just not as fancy a piece of jewelry. Just because the Pro-Vari is nicer jewelry does not make it better functionally. I think I'm going to get a LT when Liberty Flights has them in stock later this month.
 
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