Let's be honest, smoking cigarettes is far cheaper than vaping!
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That is one of things I hate about certain juices. All my store bought juices are 6 mg. Some are extremely smooth, others makes my throat feel like it is burning.
It depends on how much you smoked, how suseptible you are at buying the latest vape hardware and how much juice you vape and how much you pay for said juice.
I'm not really buying any more hardware because all the new stuff coming out is all for sub-ohming and lung hitting. I do neither. Even if there was new stuff coming out for me, I wouldn't buy it. All I spend money on is juice (but I buy in bulk so I haven;t bought any in the past few months) and coils.
Not including any hardware I have purchased in the past, I am spending less than $2 a day on vaping. As a smoker, I used to spend about $20+ a day (used to be a 2.5-3 PAD smoker)
Saving money??? You bet.
Basically, my daily vape spending is similar to my spending when I used to RYO (many years ago) ago)
I'm not really buying any more hardware because all the new stuff coming out is all for sub-ohming and lung hitting. I do neither. Even if there was new stuff coming out for me, I wouldn't buy it. All I spend money on is juice (but I buy in bulk so I haven;t bought any in the past few months) and coils.
Not including any hardware I have purchased in the past, I am spending less than $2 a day on vaping. As a smoker, I used to spend about $20+ a day (used to be a 2.5-3 PAD smoker)
Saving money??? You bet.
Basically, my daily vape spending is similar to my spending when I used to RYO (many years ago) ago)
After vapeing for a few years now, I have a stock pile of everything I need. I also DIY. Of course you always find something else you just have to have. I try to keep myself on a $100.00 a month vape budget. When I smoked I went through $100.00 a week!
It's only "wrong" if the intention was to quit smoking in order to save money. That's not the case for many of us. I could afford to smoke. I can also afford to vape however I want to. For me, vaping isn't any cheaper than smoking, but its far more enjoyable and rewarding. So, is it "bad financial decisions" that placed me in a position to buy and use what I want? I think it's the exact opposite. I built a successful business.... many long hours and hard work to get where I am financially. What an arrogant and assuming post you made there.
Vapeing for me has also been way more expensive I used to get a 30gm pack of tobacco a week cost about $20. I vape like 8ml per day from indigo that cost like 50-60c per ml so $28 dollars per week thats juice alone.... on top of that I've probably spent around $400 on hardware over the last few months ( yer i did get a bit excited with all the things i could buy lol) The point is that if you vape what you like, just like you would have with cigs it can easily cost more..... I agree with the OP not about my IQ lol but that the idea that you will for sure save tons of cash is just fraudulent, sure you can save your self some cash and im sure most pack a day smokers have but for light - medium smoker it can easily become way more expensive.... that all said I enjoy vaping more and more every day and the possible health benefit are worth it alone ...... so $ are missing the the point but i've save X amount of money is also just %^&!@ also.
I would love to see there nicotine absorption rate assumption that most of these banners work of I bet its nowhere near the 20% i've been told that pretty much make most of these I've save X completely inaccurate.........
I would love to see there nicotine absorption rate assumption that most of these banners work of I bet its nowhere near the 20% i've been told that pretty much make most of these I've save X completely inaccurate.........
Another case of comparing the cost of RYO tobacco with the cost of pre-made juice. That's not a fair comparison. If you start making your own juice, might cost 5-6c per ml, and you'll be spending $3.00 per week on it. At that rate, you'll recoup the $400 you've spent on gear in about 4 months.
99.5 to 100 is fudge factor for our testing methods. As far as we know he lost nothing.
I believe it was our local chemist, Kurt who mentioned storage in the freezer for 10 yrs with no discernible difference in nic... only pepper.
I'm at 1 year and over 4 months with no change myself.
Tapatyped
Both
But the tingle is more likely to be referred to as TH unless there's a specific burn like quality to it.
As far as taste pepper, it's not exactly "pepper", but that's about as close a description is I can think.
Tapatyped
Hmm let's see ....
Minimum of 1 carton but usually about 1 carton and 4 or 5 packs per week at $44.00 per carton = $66.00 per week in cigarettes x 52 weeks in a year = $3,432.00 a year for tobacco cigarettes.
Since I started vaping, I bought two ego mods ($30 each), one MVP 2 mod ($79.95), one stingray x clone mod ($40.00), and finally one eLeaf 50w mod ($55.00) = $234.95
Since I started caping, I bought 1 nautilus 5ml tank ($35.00) 1 aerotank mega ($40.00) an assortment of disposable tanks for the ego mods (let's say 10 at $7.00 each = $70.00) 1 Ninja tank $7.00 and my latest, 1 Kanger Subtank $40 = 152.00
So pre juice I'm up to $386.95 Let's just round it up for good measure to $432.00 (just for the fun of it).
So, in the last 16 months have I spent $3,000.00 in e-liquid? Not on your life. I'm not going to break it all down as that would be time consuming but rest assured I actually do have it all broken down in my computer as I'm a nerd for numbers and I've spent a grand total of $985.37 on liquids.
So, I've spent a grand total of $432.00 + 985.37 = 1417.37
Oh wait, I also bought a genesis atomizer and 2 batteries, total of $42.00 So.....
$1417.37 + $42.00 = $1459.37
And let me say that of the $985.37 that I spent on liquids.... A good portion of that was "trying" new liquids to see if it was what was going to agree with me, most didn't and were either tossed in the bin or given to somebody that did like it. If I were to use only my subtank and the stock 1.2 coils, I could get away with vaping only 4 bottles of liquid a month, which would cost me only $40.00 (still cheaper than just one week of tobacco cigarettes), but let's increase that to let's say $100.00 a month using the 0.5 subohm coil, well... That's still less than 1/2 of what tobacco cigarettes cost me.
So, I'm looking at about $1200.00 a year in juice, although my partner and I are now seriously starting to do the whole DIY juice route to save even more money and custom tailor our juice to our own taste buds, So I think I can safely say that the $1200 I'm currently spending will be substantially reduced in the very near future.
Of course that doesn't take into account if my mod should break, so let's break it let's say ... Umm, Oh I don't know, let's say it dies on me twice a year, so that adds another $110.00 a year to buy 2 replacements.
Yup, a grand total of $1310.00 for vaping and buying 2 more identical mods yearly compared to $3432.00 for tobacco cigarettes.
For me, it's quite clear... Vaping is easier on my wallet and easier on my lungs/health.
Minimum of 1 carton but usually about 1 carton and 4 or 5 packs per week at $44.00 per carton = $66.00 per week in cigarettes x 52 weeks in a year = $3,432.00 a year for tobacco cigarettes.
Since I started vaping, I bought two ego mods ($30 each), one MVP 2 mod ($79.95), one stingray x clone mod ($40.00), and finally one eLeaf 50w mod ($55.00) = $234.95
Since I started caping, I bought 1 nautilus 5ml tank ($35.00) 1 aerotank mega ($40.00) an assortment of disposable tanks for the ego mods (let's say 10 at $7.00 each = $70.00) 1 Ninja tank $7.00 and my latest, 1 Kanger Subtank $40 = 152.00
So pre juice I'm up to $386.95 Let's just round it up for good measure to $432.00 (just for the fun of it).
So, in the last 16 months have I spent $3,000.00 in e-liquid? Not on your life. I'm not going to break it all down as that would be time consuming but rest assured I actually do have it all broken down in my computer as I'm a nerd for numbers and I've spent a grand total of $985.37 on liquids.
So, I've spent a grand total of $432.00 + 985.37 = 1417.37
Oh wait, I also bought a genesis atomizer and 2 batteries, total of $42.00 So.....
$1417.37 + $42.00 = $1459.37
And let me say that of the $985.37 that I spent on liquids.... A good portion of that was "trying" new liquids to see if it was what was going to agree with me, most didn't and were either tossed in the bin or given to somebody that did like it. If I were to use only my subtank and the stock 1.2 coils, I could get away with vaping only 4 bottles of liquid a month, which would cost me only $40.00 (still cheaper than just one week of tobacco cigarettes), but let's increase that to let's say $100.00 a month using the 0.5 subohm coil, well... That's still less than 1/2 of what tobacco cigarettes cost me.
So, I'm looking at about $1200.00 a year in juice, although my partner and I are now seriously starting to do the whole DIY juice route to save even more money and custom tailor our juice to our own taste buds, So I think I can safely say that the $1200 I'm currently spending will be substantially reduced in the very near future.
Of course that doesn't take into account if my mod should break, so let's break it let's say ... Umm, Oh I don't know, let's say it dies on me twice a year, so that adds another $110.00 a year to buy 2 replacements.
Yup, a grand total of $1310.00 for vaping and buying 2 more identical mods yearly compared to $3432.00 for tobacco cigarettes.
For me, it's quite clear... Vaping is easier on my wallet and easier on my lungs/health.
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So in a nut shell:
- Is it possible to spend more on vaping than smoking cigarettes? Yes.
- Did everyone switch to vaping to save money? No.
- Did everyone switch to vaping for the personal health benefits? No.
- Is there a 'typical' vaper? No.
- Does everyone vape in the same way? No.
- Does everyone vape with the same gear? No.
Gosh I'm sorry - I can't see how what I wrote is in anyway 'negative'.
In life there are no absolutes other than taxes and death.
Different strokes for different folks ....
Humor/sarcasm, my friend. Just a failed attempt I guess.Gosh I'm sorry - I can't see how what I wrote is in anyway 'negative'.
In life there are no absolutes other than taxes and death.
Different strokes for different folks ....
Tapatyped
True but thats one case so far, besides if your going to DIY you should have the appropriate nic testing supplies anyways for your first few batches or when trying out different sized batches.
You're misunderstanding everything.
You test the nic base. Not the batch. The flavor in the batch can have more color than your regent making an accurate read near impossible.
As far as kurt, you can count him for at least a half dozen cases. He has... and tested... A bunch of nic of different brands and from different sources.
As far as how many cases reported of well over 2 yrs with no difference in the nic content, there has to be over 100 reported just on this site alone.
It's simply a non-issue. Period. No need to discuss it further.
But if you feel compelled, visit the DIY section.
Tapatyped
Yeah, I was gonna say, why test a batch of ejuice you just made? If you followed the recipe, you already know how much nicotine is in it!
I mean... DUH!Andria
OK, I get it now... some of ya'll have convinced me that shinyitis and pre-mix premium jooses cause .... pain worthy of public forum rants!
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