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LiMn High Drain IMR 14500 and the Nhaler XS High Drain 3.7V IMR 16340 Battery

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  1. Drewsworld

    Drewsworld Resting In Peace

    Mar 14, 2009
    New Jersey
  2. Drewsworld

    Drewsworld Resting In Peace

    Mar 14, 2009
    New Jersey
    We are also bringing in our new 5 Volt Box Mods, and 3.7 Volt Box mods and new Low Resisitance Cartomizers next week that will compliment the 14500 batteries...
    These new 16340 Batteries we have are what Ive been waiting for for the XSHaler....The perforamnce of these batteries really shines with the XSHAler....
    Drew
     
  3. hittman

    hittman ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Drew, you never cease to amaze me. You are constantly trying to come up with things to improve the vaping experience of your customers. Well done.
     
  4. Drewsworld

    Drewsworld Resting In Peace

    Mar 14, 2009
    New Jersey
    Thanks Hit...You da man...
    Drew
     
  5. Thulium

    Thulium Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Any sign of a high drain 17670 for the Xhaler?
     
  6. Drewsworld

    Drewsworld Resting In Peace

    Mar 14, 2009
    New Jersey
    Yes I should get tracking info Monday...I was supposed to get them with these and there was a problem, so should have them next week...I have one sample left and it is really great...Thanks
    Drew
     
  7. RedAlert

    RedAlert Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 27, 2010
    NJ
    Are these protected(pcb?) and also, what makes these better than a standard Lion batt? (pardon the ignorance)
     
  8. Drewsworld

    Drewsworld Resting In Peace

    Mar 14, 2009
    New Jersey
    These are not protected as the IMR chemistry dosent need a PCB as it is inherently safer and much less volatile...The IMR (LiMn) chemistry is capable of delivering higher amps, without causing stress on the cell...
    Although the Mah ratings are lower than some LiOn cells, those ratings are calculated at a higher amperage that is never really reached, therefore your mah should be considered much longer...Thanks
    DRew
     
  9. Drozd

    Drozd Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Nov 7, 2009
    NW Ohio
    redalert, they dont have a PCB they're a safe chemistry so they're more stable and dont vent or flame..

    now for the what makes them better aspect...

    lets say you're using a 510 atty at 3.7V on a mod that takes a 14500 battery...

    the amp draw on a joye 510 atty at 3.7V is 1.61A (2.47A on a LR atty)...

    the max drain rate on a AW protected 14500 battery is 1.5A ....so the battery gets overstressed (leading to reduced overall life of the battery) and doesn't quite put out the power it could...

    Now I dont know the discharge C rating on these high drain IMR batteries..
    but if they are a 5C discharge like the BDL ones then the max drain rate would be about 3A...so about twice as capable of pushing the power and meeting the amp draw as the regular 14500..

    in other words running a LR atty on these won't overstress them
     
  10. RedAlert

    RedAlert Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 27, 2010
    NJ
    So, if you're not using LR atties, then there is no need for these, or would you still benefit from using them?
     
  11. Drozd

    Drozd Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Nov 7, 2009
    NW Ohio
    not exactly...joye 510 atties too only the overstressing isnt as severe...

    other atties the batteries get stressed but not overstressed...cartos well again it depends on the cartos..3.0Ω you're at a 1.23A draw (battery max is 1.5 (on AW batteries, *fire batteries are lower)) so lower resistance you're getting to the overstressed point..higher resistance and they're ok...not the best but ok...

    kinda think of it like your car...your options are constantly red lining the RPM....running it just under red line....or less than half of red line..

    comparably with the 14500 batteries LR or joye 510 atties on AW or *fire batteries would be constantly running past redline....the other atties on an Li-Ion AW would be running close to the red line...*fire batteries would be even closer to red line...the high drain IMR knock that way back to half and less than half
     
  12. andel11

    andel11 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 27, 2009
    Bay Area, Ca
    So maybe I should wait on my order to see what you have new next or is it this week.:unsure:
     
  13. Drewsworld

    Drewsworld Resting In Peace

    Mar 14, 2009
    New Jersey
    I have all the batteries in now but no Box mods until later in the week...Thanks'
    Drew
     
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