Little itty bitty mods under $100.

[Katya]

Update on this.....

I contacted Phil B about this. He said he'd check on it and his response was that it was likely a clone. We knew there were clones out there, but I thought that this one was authentic from the note posted by gearbest, so not so sure now.

@Kent C , would you please let us know what Phil says when you hear back from him? Both sites say it's a Kanger Kbox mini. I need an itty bitty box mod with replaceable battery! I bought two LG batteries from RTD Vapor and have no mod that will take them...

Short list: Kbox mini with improved pin, ipv D2, Cloupor mini+, (Joye VTC?).

 

[Kent C]

@Kent C , would you please let us know what Phil says when you hear back from him? Both sites say it's a Kanger Kbox mini. I need an itty bitty box mod with replaceable battery! I bought two LG batteries from RTD Vapor and have no mod that will take them...

Short list: Kbox mini with improved pin, IPV D2, Cloupor mini+, (Joye VTC?).

After I emailed the gearbest link to Phil, he said he'd inquire into it - he didn't mention Kanger but assume that's what he meant. His reply is that any kbox mini with a spring loaded pin is a clone. I didn't ask for any elaboration, who he talked to etc.

he may have just googled and got this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic.../any_word_on_subox_minikbox_mini_with_spring/

See the last post - verbatim as to what Phil said.

When I reported the gearbest Q&A info, there was one other site listing 'spring loaded pin' in the features -
http://www.3fvape.com/vv-vw-mod/417...ox-mod-black-750w-1-x-18650.html#.Vh8ffM_ltOQ

Another one showed up here today and ran into another but didn't catch the site...

http://www.vapelink.co.uk/kangertech-subox-mini-starter-kit.html

I may ask HG tonight but I don't think they have new kits in yet. I know that if it was a consideration for me, (it is not), knowing all else about the mod, I'd wait. But that's me :- )

As you know, I have the vtc mini - nice, well built, tc, but the squared off corners bother me..... lol.

 

[Katya]

See the last post - verbatim as to what Phil said.

Yeah, I did my search also. lots of conflicting information and nothing official from Kanger.

I may ask HG tonight but I don't think they have new kits in yet. I know that if it was a consideration for me, (it is not), knowing all else about the mod, I'd wait. But that's me :- )

Well, it was a consideration for me, at the beginning, and now I've been waiting for so long that I may just give up and get something else.

As you know, I have the vtc mini - nice, well built, tc, but the squared off corners bother me..... lol.

Ditto. So now it's down to Cloupor mini+ or IPV D2. I'll probably wait for Phil to review them, though.

 

[LouisLeBeau]

Yeah, I did my search also. lots of conflicting information and nothing official from Kanger.

Well, it was a consideration for me, at the beginning, and now I've been waiting for so long that I may just give up and get something else.

Ditto. So now it's down to Cloupor mini+ or IPV D2. I'll probably wait for Phil to review them, though.

Hi Katya! I don't have an IPV D2, I do have an IPV4s. I would like to tell you, that while the IPV4s works EXTREMELY good in temp mode (as well as power mode), I am VERY disappointed with Pn4y for the lack of firmware updates. Both mods still are shipping with the latest firmware which was back in early summer. So no support for S.S., or adjustable TCR's anywhere in sight for the future.

Smok releases firmware updates almost WEEKLY for their Xcube2, and just in the past couple weeks have added Ti, S.S. and upped the power on the XCube2 from 160 to 180 watts. You might want to take a look at the mini, if it is small enough for you. I believe that it is a single battery mod. I AM very impressed with their support of new desirables. The TC needs tweakin though, over the IPV's. It is very laggy and choppy in comparison, but I bet they fix it.

 

[Katya]

Thank you, Louis, dear.

The irony is that I don't even want a TC. Not yet, because I do agree that the technology is still evolving,

so to speak, and I am very happy with regular regulated vv/vw mods, at least for the time being. I'm a low wattage vaper and haven't had a dry hit in years. I tootle puff and my coils never get a chance to seriously overheat to dangerous levels.

What I'm in the market for is an itty bitty box mod, ergonomically designed, with replaceable battery. Alas, all those new ones seem to come with TC, so I figured, what the heck, I'll just run in it the vv or vw mode.

Presently, there are only two non-TC box mods with replaceable batteries worth considering:

1. Kbox mini, but I want a spring-loaded pin, a battery door that actually fits tightly, and a more accurate chip. And those red (on black) and black (on white) buttons are kind of annoying--esthetically--at least to me.

2. the Radius, but it's not exactly itty bitty, it's heavy, it comes with that P3 connection that is still a mystery to me, and it costs 200 bucks.

So there.

 

[Jumpin' In...]

Hi Katya! I don't have an IPV D2, I do have an IPV4s. I would like to tell you, that while the IPV4s works EXTREMELY good in temp mode (as well as power mode), I am VERY disappointed with Pn4y for the lack of firmware updates. Both mods still are shipping with the latest firmware which was back in early summer. So no support for S.S., or adjustable TCR's anywhere in sight for the future.

Smok releases firmware updates almost WEEKLY for their Xcube2, and just in the past couple weeks have added Ti, S.S. and upped the power on the XCube2 from 160 to 180 watts. You might want to take a look at the mini, if it is small enough for you. I believe that it is a single battery mod. I AM very impressed with their support of new desirables. The TC needs tweakin though, over the IPV's. It is very laggy and choppy in comparison, but I bet they fix it.

Probably not "itty bitty" enough for me, but just thought I'd note that firmware updates for this are not necessarily free. Smoktech has apparently decided to go the "nickel and dime" route. Their website says:

The default temperature sensing coil material is Nickel 200. Titanium and Stainless Steel Coil are optional for an additional charge. Customers who desire them can purchase and active by our mobile application.

http://www.smoktech.com/mod/x-cube-mini

Not that that would matter to Katya, though.

 

[Katya]

Not that that would matter to Katya, though.

Not yet.

 

[Katdarling]

the Radius, but it's not exactly itty bitty, it's heavy, it comes with that P3 connection that is still a mystery to me, and it costs 200 bucks.

Absto, Madame BirdKat. The Radius tho, is not THAT big (bout the height of a Provi Mini), but doesn't really belong here due to it's cost.

I just today really discovered the ins and outs of the P3 connector. I received a Naughty P3 as a gift, and I had the top cap of one of my fave Provis fitted with the P3 top cap.

It's basically a connector covered by a screw in 510 adapter, then surrounded by a beauty ring. So it will of course accept P3 toppers, AND every 510 topper out there as well.

Mystery solved?

 

[Katya]

Absto, Madame BirdKat. The Radius tho, is not THAT big (bout the height of a Provi Mini), but doesn't really belong here due to it's cost.

Right. It's actually quite good looking. I'd buy it in a heartbeat if it DID belong in this thread.

It's basically a connector covered by a screw in 510 adapter, then surrounded by a beauty ring. So it will of course accept P3 toppers, AND every 510 topper out there as well.

Mystery solved?

Yes and no. I figured that much from Phil's reviews of the P3, but I still don't understand why it's necessary... A lot of engineering and extra moving parts (and increased price) to what end? Just looks?

 

[Katdarling]

No, definitely not for looks. (Is there anything notably gorgeous about ANY connector? HA!) According to the Zen, it's a beefier, more sturdy, less fallible connector, and just possibly, the way the market will trend. Time will tell.

I have all of two P3 connectors in my arsenal, and precisely ONE P3 topper, so expert me? Yeah/no.

 

[Katya]

No, definitely not for looks. (Is there anything notably gorgeous about ANY connector? HA!) According to the Zen, it's a beefier, more sturdy, less fallible connector, and just possibly, the way the market will trend. Time will tell.

I have all of two P3 connectors in my arsenal, and precisely ONE P3 topper, so expert me? Yeah/no.

Maybe, possibly, perhaps, time will tell... I wish ProVape offered a basic non-P3 version for those of us who are not convinced or not willing to pay extra for it.

 

[Oregon Linda]

The industry definitely needs a better connector than the 510. With the size of attys these days, it just doesn't hold up to a lot of use. One of the most common complaints about mods is threads stripping. I've had a couple of my beloved GS Airs get so stripped they were unusable. So I would love a better connector. I've never seen a P3 connector up close, but from pictures, it looks like a big step in the right direction. I just wonder, though, how many atty makers are going to use it.

 

[Katya]

The industry definitely needs a better connector than the 510. With the size of attys these days, it just doesn't hold up to a lot of use. One of the most common complaints about mods is threads stripping. I've had a couple of my beloved GS Airs get so stripped they were unusable. So I would love a better connector. I've never seen a P3 connector up close, but from pictures, it looks like a big step in the right direction. I just wonder, though, how many atty makers are going to use it.

Right. The 510 connection was initially designed to support tiny and lightweight dripping atties that were 9 mm in diameter. But that's a different conversation altogether. It survived and I don't think it's going anywhere anytime soon. That said, I found that the new connections on 2nd gen PVs, made from stainless steel with spring loaded or floating pins, are working just fine. I own several such mods, including my ProVari 2.5, and never had a problem with stripped threads. The cheaper, chromed brass threads used on many toppers (and some inexpensive mods) are prone to thread stripping, unfortunately--and I don't see how a P3 type connector might solve this problem.

 

[Katdarling]

Precisely, Katya. The days of the little 306s and 510 attIES are pretty much in our memories (other than some faithful old skoolers who still love and appreciate them). The tanks of today almost DEMAND a beefier/stronger connector. I think Zen is definitely on the right path. But no, if your topper's threads are made out of cotton candy, then even the sturdiest connector has no merit. It's occurring to me more and more that I'm liking quality ingredients in my vape gear.

Maybe, possibly, perhaps, time will tell... I wish ProVape offered a basic non-P3 version for those of us who are not convinced or not willing to pay extra for it.

Provi specials.......... all UNDER one hundred buckaroonies (other than the Ti, which is WELL worth the extra bit):

http://www.provape.com/specials-s/37.htm

The industry definitely needs a better connector than the 510. With the size of attys these days, it just doesn't hold up to a lot of use. One of the most common complaints about mods is threads stripping. I've had a couple of my beloved GS Airs get so stripped they were unusable. So I would love a better connector. I've never seen a P3 connector up close, but from pictures, it looks like a big step in the right direction. I just wonder, though, how many atty makers are going to use it.

I think from the little I've read, there ARE atty makers going in this direction. You (all) might want to check in on this thread sometime, and engage that very conversation:

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...t-the-tapered-provari-to-p3-threading.698802/

 

[Katya]

Precisely, Katya. The days of the little 306s and 510 attIES are pretty much in our memories (other than some faithful old skoolers who still love and appreciate them). The tanks of today almost DEMAND a beefier/stronger connector. I think Zen is definitely on the right path. But no, if your topper's threads are made out of cotton candy, then even the sturdiest connector has no merit. It's occurring to me more and more that I'm liking quality ingredients in my vape gear.

Yup.

Provi specials.......... all UNDER one hundred buckaroonies (other than the Ti, which is WELL worth the extra bit):

http://www.provape.com/specials-s/37.htm

Thank you very much. I paid twice as much for my mini 2.5 because I just had to have a blue LED light.

I think from the little I've read, there ARE atty makers going in this direction. You (all) might want to check in on this thread sometime, and engage that very conversation:

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...t-the-tapered-provari-to-p3-threading.698802/

I just use my smaller tanks on my Provi. I looked at the rings, but didn't really want to go that way. I wish I could get my 2.5 updated with a flat head, though, so it would accept those wider atties...

ETA: Wait, that can be done??? How much? Do you know what Zen charges?

 

[Katdarling]

I know!!!!!!!! The Provape prices are crazy low now. DPL and I are shuddering constantly at what was paid for our latest haul of Provis!!!!


Why can you not get your 2.5 updated with the new top cap? That's what I just had done with my 2.5 GMZ.

 

[Katya]

Reading the thread...

 

[Katya]

Why can you not get your 2.5 updated with the new top cap? That's what I just had done with my 2.5 GMZ.

Because it has the old round robin menu that drives me insane?

 

[DavidOck]

So similar in concept to what Innokin did with the SVD2:

While not having a real connector underneath, as the Provari does, if the 510 gets messed up, just replace the "adapter" and you're brand new.

Heck, I've been saying for a long time that bigger tanks should at least be eGo threaded...

 

[Oregon Linda]

So similar in concept to what Innokin did with the SVD2:

While not having a real connector underneath, as the Provari does, if the 510 gets messed up, just replace the "adapter" and you're brand new.

Heck, I've been saying for a long time that bigger tanks should at least be eGo threaded...

Yes, I have a couple of SVD 2.0s in my vapocalypse box and one I use every day, and I love that feature. Even my old VAMO v2 had both ego and 510 threads. I totally agree that if they were going to only choose one connector type over the other, it should have been the ego connector. It is much more solid.