Long Term PV/Mech Mod Advice/Suggestions

[Burn_notice_fan_NY]

Let me preface this with: I love my MVP 2 to death and have my spinners as backups but let's be realistic. Eventually the batteries will no longer hold a charge. I am a little worried about possible upcoming regulations but not terribly worried just yet.

For this reason, I am interested in searching for a PV for long term. I know there are many options and a whole world of devices that have easily replaceable batteries. I prefer vv/vw styles but these often require electronics. Electronics eventually break down. I am fearful of going for the well known vv/vw mods (innokin/provari etc.) because there is a possibility that the chips will fail over time. My thought being: just because you can replace with new batteries does not guarantee a long term use device of 5-10 years or even a lifetime.

With that said, are my fears irrational with devices that offer replaceable batteries but still have more advanced electronics in them? Should I go mech mod? I have tried finding info on mechs but get terribly confused with all of them. I've searched videos and threads and remain confused. I don't intend to ever go below 1-1.2 ohms. Are all batteries/mechs relatively safe at this level and above? Does anyone recommend a specific decent beginner/inexpensive mech mod? Kicks with vv/vw potential? I guess I'm just looking for a helpful insight or guide into beginning the climb into this new section of the learning curve. Possibly even recommendations for a starter kit.

I'm hoping this is the right section to post this. If not appropriate for here, mods, please feel free to move.

 

[super_X_drifter]

Let me preface this with: I love my MVP 2 to death and have my spinners as backups but let's be realistic. Eventually the batteries will no longer hold a charge. I am a little worried about possible upcoming regulations but not terribly worried just yet.

For this reason, I am interested in searching for a PV for long term. I know there are many options and a whole world of devices that have easily replaceable batteries. I prefer vv/vw styles but these often require electronics. Electronics eventually break down. I am fearful of going for the well known vv/vw mods (innokin/provari etc.) because there is a possibility that the chips will fail over time. My thought being: just because you can replace with new batteries does not guarantee a long term use device of 5-10 years or even a lifetime.

With that said, are my fears irrational with devices that offer replaceable batteries but still have more advanced electronics in them? Should I go mech mod? I have tried finding info on mechs but get terribly confused with all of them. I've searched videos and threads and remain confused. I don't intend to ever go below 1-1.2 ohms. Are all batteries/mechs relatively safe at this level and above? Does anyone recommend a specific decent beginner/inexpensive mech mod? Kicks with vv/vw potential? I guess I'm just looking for a helpful insight or guide into beginning the climb into this new section of the learning curve. Possibly even recommendations for a starter kit.

I'm hoping this is the right section to post this. If not appropriate for here, mods, please feel free to move.

Here's a solid mech that is built to last indefinitely. Any parts that could be damaged are replaceable and available. They are made in the USA too.

It's a REO grand. It's compact - roughly the size of a business card and slightly thicker than an 18650 battery.

New gold plated BeCu contacts were just released that put it in a class of mods with very low voltage drop. The mod itself has very little voltage drop and when I tested it under load with a 1.3 ohm coil I got .21. That's very respectable and up there with the best there is. These contacts are now standard on grands and can also be installed into existing grands fairly simply. I just upgraded my 2 grands with them.

The beauty of a quality bottom fed mod like a REO grand doesn't just stop at low voltage drop, durability and easy rebuild-ability either: the major advantage of these systems over a typical battery holder is that they provide fresh squozen juice on demand. Just thumb to squeeze the inboard 6ml juice bottle and it sends fresh juice up to your bottom fed Rebuildable Atomizer or atty / carto (if that's what ya like). Many users have modded RDAs to be bottom fed also

Gone are the days of outboard tanks, finicky genies, kayfuns or carrying juice. With a grand, you fill up your 6ml inboard bottle, put in an 18650 and get about your life. It's highly portable, pocketable can survive more abuse than anything else and vapes equal to and in most cases better than anything available.

Check out the Reos mods forum under forum suppliers. Probably hands down the most vibrant, helpful and busy non lounge thread in here and for good reason. The mods kick AYuss and simplify vaping

Here's a couple of mine:

 

[Baditude]

A Provari is designed & built to be every bit as durable as a mechanical mod. Should the chip or anything else fail, it can easily be sent in to the manufacturer to be replaced for free under the 1 year warranty, or replaced for a reasonable fee after warranty, for life. This is one of the reasons a Provari is a little more expensive than the typical Chinese-made mod, whose manufacturer doesn't offer tech or customer service after the sale.

Why Provari?

 

[Chelonian]

+1 on both of those from a happy user.

check out Super T (damn I have become a fanboy ever since I bought mine)

 

[glassgal]

Both great suggestions, and your best most durable options for long term. The REO is a box mod. The Provari is a tube mod.... that's an easy way to decide... what shape do you like better?

 

[thezoo]

If provari goes out of business because of regs then whose gonna fix it

 

[Izan]

Let me preface this with: I love my MVP 2 to death and have my spinners as backups but let's be realistic. Eventually the batteries will no longer hold a charge. I am a little worried about possible upcoming regulations but not terribly worried just yet.

For this reason, I am interested in searching for a PV for long term. I know there are many options and a whole world of devices that have easily replaceable batteries. I prefer vv/vw styles but these often require electronics. Electronics eventually break down. I am fearful of going for the well known vv/vw mods (innokin/provari etc.) because there is a possibility that the chips will fail over time. My thought being: just because you can replace with new batteries does not guarantee a long term use device of 5-10 years or even a lifetime.

With that said, are my fears irrational with devices that offer replaceable batteries but still have more advanced electronics in them? Should I go mech mod? I have tried finding info on mechs but get terribly confused with all of them. I've searched videos and threads and remain confused. I don't intend to ever go below 1-1.2 ohms. Are all batteries/mechs relatively safe at this level and above? Does anyone recommend a specific decent beginner/inexpensive mech mod? Kicks with vv/vw potential? I guess I'm just looking for a helpful insight or guide into beginning the climb into this new section of the learning curve. Possibly even recommendations for a starter kit.

I'm hoping this is the right section to post this. If not appropriate for here, mods, please feel free to move.

IMHO, only three to consider.

GG, Reo, SuperT

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Many have come and gone. The best PERSIST.

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[glassgal]

If provari goes out of business because of regs then whose gonna fix it

No regs is going to put the Provari out of business. They don't sell anything with nicotine, and nicotine is the only 'tobacco product' in vaping. There are people who want to vape 0 nic juice and vicks vapor rub, they can't regulate that. Not to mention that everything in the Provari can be called flashlight parts.

 

[thezoo]

But if we cant get nic juice then what btw any ecig equip will probably be considered "paraphernalia" therefore would probably be by association illegal and unless you have a freezer dedicated to the storage of ecig ingredients you will eventually run out sooooooooooooo lets hope its a moot point lets hope the fda gets its .... handed to it you enjoy your provari as long as you can and I will enjoy my mech mods which as long as my store of ingredients doesnt run out if my mechs break (unlikely) I can haul ... to lowes and fix it myself for pocket change no shipping required ps the screws to replace the center pin of a nemesis are 28 cents a piece never broke one but wanted a longer one so for 2.80 I have ten backup screws plenty to get me through the fda zombie apocalypse

 

[glassgal]

But if we cant get nic juice then what btw any ecig equip will probably be considered "paraphernalia" therefore would probably be by association illegal and unless you have a freezer dedicated to the storage of ecig ingredients you will eventually run out sooooooooooooo lets hope its a moot point lets hope the fda gets its .... handed to it you enjoy your provari as long as you can and I will enjoy my mech mods which as long as my store of ingredients doesnt run out if my mechs break (unlikely) I can haul ... to lowes and fix it myself for pocket change no shipping required ps the screws to replace the center pin of a nemesis are 28 cents a piece never broke one but wanted a longer one so for 2.80 I have ten backup screws plenty to get me through the fda zombie apocalypse

Nicotine is NOT illegal. Tobacco is NOT illegal. Cigarettes are NOT illegal, and there's 499 toxic chemicals in Cigarettes.

There is no move whatsoever to make nicotine illegal, nor could they, as there are still tobacco farms all over the SE USA, owned by huge Tobacco corporations and lobbies. And we all know that Congress is owned by Lobbyists, who allow them them to run for office.

This isn't ever going to be illegal. It can get regulated (like alcohol, tobacco and firearms). It can favor big tobacco. It can get taxed.

But it will never become illegal. Especially with Big Tobacco getting into the act.

There is no law against tobacco pipes at all, of any type. "Drug Paraphenalia" consists of ....s and pipes that have a carburetor hole in the side, which is only used for smoking ........., which is fast becoming legal in the US too. Pipes without that specialized hole are completely legal.

There is no law against tobacco pipes of any type in the US. There's not even a tax on pipe tobacco in the US, despite the huge tax on Cigarettes.

 

[Jugband]

What Super x Drifter said!

 

[thezoo]

You know the bad thing about big governments THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT so
The original poster asked what to buy in the event of THE END OF VAPING AS WE KNOW IT
Which there really isnt any sure fire way any way to always be able to get a vape I dont put anything past this government and just because its legal now doesnt mean it always be

 

[supertrunker]

in which the case the answer is 20 Marlboro, since there are no moves to ban those.

T

 

[thezoo]

If I doesnt end well for vapors im gonna try to force myself not to go back to the stinkies somehow

 

[glassgal]

in which the case the answer is 20 Marlboro, since there are no moves to ban those.

T

With which you can make your own nicotine extract and keep on vaping anyway.

And US Big Tobacco has already invested in Nicotine liquid extraction facilities. So the odds of getting nicotine liquid banned is zero.

And the odds of getting propylene glycol and veg glycerin are zero, since they are used in most beauty/skin care products.

And the odds of getting flavorings banned is zero, since they are used in most foods.

The WORRY is getting nic liquid TAXED... where it can cost as much or more than cigarettes.

 

[supertrunker]

That sounds more costly then just buying and smoking them no?

T

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

Read reviews on mechanical mods, focus on the switch function and 510 connector durability.

Purchase what ever you feel is going to survive your lifestyle. Keep in mind just about any part of a mechanical mod can be made at any good machine shop in the world, so as far as long term fully mechanical mods should be expected to outlast you.

As for the provari, they may well stand the test of time, take into consideration that Casio calculators from the 80's still work fine.

Maurice

 

[glassgal]

That sounds more costly then just buying and smoking them no?

T

Well no, because smoking cigs makes your lungs yuck up, and vaping doesn't.

 

[edyle]

Let me preface this with: I love my MVP 2 to death and have my spinners as backups but let's be realistic. Eventually the batteries will no longer hold a charge. I am a little worried about possible upcoming regulations but not terribly worried just yet.

For this reason, I am interested in searching for a PV for long term. I know there are many options and a whole world of devices that have easily replaceable batteries. I prefer vv/vw styles but these often require electronics. Electronics eventually break down. I am fearful of going for the well known vv/vw mods (innokin/provari etc.) because there is a possibility that the chips will fail over time. My thought being: just because you can replace with new batteries does not guarantee a long term use device of 5-10 years or even a lifetime.

With that said, are my fears irrational with devices that offer replaceable batteries but still have more advanced electronics in them? Should I go mech mod? I have tried finding info on mechs but get terribly confused with all of them. I've searched videos and threads and remain confused. I don't intend to ever go below 1-1.2 ohms. Are all batteries/mechs relatively safe at this level and above? Does anyone recommend a specific decent beginner/inexpensive mech mod? Kicks with vv/vw potential? I guess I'm just looking for a helpful insight or guide into beginning the climb into this new section of the learning curve. Possibly even recommendations for a starter kit.

I'm hoping this is the right section to post this. If not appropriate for here, mods, please feel free to move.

I'm in the same boat; actually ordered a Chi you and a kick as a result recently; I'll probably order a nemesis later and a few spare kicks, spare top interface pieces and bottom cap pieces if possible; plus I'll keep improving my plug-in device for vaping off the wall with a universal ac-dc power adapter.

Features of a mech I look for:
- very modular - lots of tubes/rings so I can configure/adjust to whatever length I need
- (room for a kick)
- 510/eGo thead; all have the 510, but I'd rather use the bigger eGo thread for less wear/tear
- bottom replaceable switch - is bottom switch is a problem I'd like to take a spare bottom piece and just screw it on and vape away.
- adjustable center pin - common problem with e-cigs - center pin for power gets pressed down and loses contact.
- sealed top- no possibility of liquid leaking on the battery.

Alot of these tubes probably have the same/compatible 22mm diameter and threading and might be compatible with each other, but can't be sure just from pictures.

 

[CreepyLady]

+1 on Reo