Looked into mech. mods. Not for me!

[EddardinWinter]

If you aren't vaping through a meter that shows your inhalation rate and total inhalation, and every one of your vapes is identical, and you always vape at the same temperature, barometric pressure, and humidity, you aren't getting a consistent vape, regardless of whether the voltage is steady.

Interesting point.

But the easiest thing for me to control is the output power of my PV. Sure, pressure, temp, etc. all affect my vape. Luckily, the vast majority of my vaping is done between 70-74 degrees F, at 500 feet above sea level, at 45-55% humidity. Even if I am vaping outside in different conditions, and I need to adjust my voltage output, I can do it once for the new environment and enjoy a consistent vape. Everyone not in a 100% controlled environment suffers these variations you list, to be sure.

I eliminate one variable that always changes for everyone not using a handful of PVs that actually put the same voltage every time. I despise the output voltage drop losses in vape production, especially after having a really nice vape with the fresh battery.

If it doesn't bother you, good for you. I wish it didn't bother me so badly, because I think my Caravella is one great looking mechanical mod! I just only want to vape it for about 15 or so puffs before I feel like I need a new battery...and I don't want to go about with six batteries when I leave my house for a few hours. I can take one 18650 in my ProVari, and it will put out 4.2 volts for eight hours of heavy vaping. I am not saying its better than your mechanical, I am saying it suits me better.

Part of the beauty of vaping today is the wide diversity of devices available. Everyone who feels the urge should try them all and pick what suits their vaping profile best.

 

[Wow1420]

I've tried a lot of different PVs/batteries/mods and find I can be happy with just about anything from a simple ego on up. As long as I can match performance of the topper to the battery I'm good.

I do have a couple of mechanicals in order to have something reliable and FDA-proof. I got kicks for them for convenience, if the kick circuit fails and replacements aren't available, I can always go back to running them unregulated, though I prefer regulated. As it turns out, I like using the Pisces clone because it's tiny as tube-style things go.

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

Mech mods are scary, and I can build a computer. Should I do something wrong, and just that battery is there, at my face.... Truth be told, I like the idea of being able to build and fix it. I may start rebuilding my Protank coils, perhaps look into some rebuildable attys. I don't know about getting into sub ohms and mech mods though.

 

[Myrany]

Interesting point.

But the easiest thing for me to control is the output power of my PV. Sure, pressure, temp, etc. all affect my vape. Luckily, the vast majority of my vaping is done between 70-74 degrees F, at 500 feet above sea level, at 45-55% humidity. Even if I am vaping outside in different conditions, and I need to adjust my voltage output, I can do it once for the new environment and enjoy a consistent vape. Everyone not in a 100% controlled environment suffers these variations you list, to be sure.

I eliminate one variable that always changes for everyone not using a handful of PVs that actually put the same voltage every time. I despise the output voltage drop losses in vape production, especially after having a really nice vape with the fresh battery.

If it doesn't bother you, good for you. I wish it didn't bother me so badly, because I think my Caravella is one great looking mechanical mod! I just only want to vape it for about 15 or so puffs before I feel like I need a new battery...and I don't want to go about with six batteries when I leave my house for a few hours. I can take one 18650 in my ProVari, and it will put out 4.2 volts for eight hours of heavy vaping. I am not saying its better than your mechanical, I am saying it suits me better.

Part of the beauty of vaping today is the wide diversity of devices available. Everyone who feels the urge should try them all and pick what suits their vaping profile best.

On My REO Grand (A MEch model) with a 1.25 ohm atty and chain vaping I go through 1.5 batterys a day from wakeup till bedtime. If it is a busy day then 1 battery will last me just fine. I have never had to change them out as often as you say with your Caravella.

I do completely agree use what works and enjoy life smoke free.

 

[Myrany]

Mech mods are scary, and I can build a computer. Should I do something wrong, and just that battery is there, at my face.... Truth be told, I like the idea of being able to build and fix it. I may start rebuilding my Protank coils, perhaps look into some rebuildable attys. I don't know about getting into sub ohms and mech mods though.

You do not have to sub ohm just because you use a mech. I never sub ohm and I get a lovely vape.

I was nervous about Mechs too until I did some homework and learned what I needed to know about batterys to be in control of the situation.

I actually did have a short on my REO thanks to a subpar atty (an A7 clone). The heat spring in the REO collapsed instantly and long before there was any really noticeable problem. Some mechs do have that sort of built in safety feature.

 

[Wow1420]

Before I got the kicks, I used a short stop fuse in my mechanicals. The fuse will shut it down in case of an atomizer short.

I generally use 1.8 to 2.4 ohm attys, no interest in the sub-ohm stuff.

 

[Joshinthecity]

I am pleased that I read this thread. I am very happy with my Smok ZMax, my MVP2 and my evod batteries. I know the MVP2 and the evods are throw aways and I do not like that part. I am hoping I will be able to replace batteries in the MVP2 when it dies. Maybe not.

You folks have convinced me to put the Reo on my list. Or perhaps the Billet Box if they make a mech. I had not thought about the need for simplicity when vapegeddon arrives, if it does. A Reo would be a nice back up.

Now, that being said, mechs can be made easily with a few Radio Shack parts and a 510 connector. So maybe I am just looking to have an excuse to get a Reo. Ya think!?

The REO is the mod that ended my shiney lust.
It's the vape to end all Vapes.
You'll see...

 

[emus]

Mech mods are scary, and I can build a computer. Should I do something wrong, and just that battery is there, at my face.... Truth be told, I like the idea of being able to build and fix it. I may start rebuilding my Protank coils, perhaps look into some rebuildable attys. I don't know about getting into sub ohms and mech mods though.

Non-mechanical mods with exploding batt chemistry are scary. Like Li-Po and typical protected cells. Mechanical is less scary when a safe chemistry high quality cell is chosen.

 

[EddardinWinter]

Mech mods are scary, and I can build a computer. Should I do something wrong, and just that battery is there, at my face.... Truth be told, I like the idea of being able to build and fix it. I may start rebuilding my Protank coils, perhaps look into some rebuildable attys. I don't know about getting into sub ohms and mech mods though.

Mechanicals are not scary. You just have to do your homework and pick good batteries for the coils you are building. They are perfectly safe as long as you mind your protocols. No PV is completely safe, but the risk of a good mechanical properly managed is not excessive in any way. Now if you choose a battery not suitable to your demands of it....it can be bad. Don't avoid mechanical mods because you believe the are inherently unsafe. They are not.

 

[EddardinWinter]

On My REO Grand (A MEch model) with a 1.25 ohm atty and chain vaping I go through 1.5 batterys a day from wakeup till bedtime. If it is a busy day then 1 battery will last me just fine. I have never had to change them out as often as you say with your Caravella.

I do completely agree use what works and enjoy life smoke free.

I am quite familiar with the REO Grand, Myra.

Good to see you, my dear.

EDIT: I tend to want to switch batteries when the drop below 3.9 volts. After tasting the full effect of the 4.2 volt vapor, the loss of a few tenths of a volt makes me feel like I am missing out. Again, there is nothing wrong with mechanical vaping. It is more my issue with mechanicals than anything "wrong" with them.

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

It's just not for me right now. I'm not putting anyone's else's preference down. I just don't have the knowledge yet for a mech mod and I'm acknowledging that. I know enough to know that at this point in time, I'm more bound to do something wrong then I am to do something right. What's wrong with that?

 

[EddardinWinter]

Non-mechanical mods with exploding batt chemistry are scary. Like Li-Po and typical protected cells. Mechanical is less scary when a safe chemistry high quality cell is chosen.

I don't understand why anyone would choose batteries recklessly. Your point is well made, however. I did not read it before posting a similar sentiment below it.

Battery safety is critical. Know your batteries and what they are capable of!

 

[EddardinWinter]

It's just not for me right now. I'm not putting anyone's else's preference down. I just don't have the knowledge yet for a mech mod and I'm acknowledging that. I know enough to know that at this point in time, I'm more bound to do something wrong then I am to do something right. What's wrong with that?

Absolutely nothing. Your knowledge of your own limitations at this time is commendable and you are making the right choice for you.

 

[emus]

I don't understand why anyone would choose batteries recklessly. Your point is well made, however. I did not read it before posting a similar sentiment below.

Battery safety is critical. Know your batteries and what they are capable of!

I wish someone had the resources to film induced thermal runaway in all the popular batts to show which ones explode violently and which ones just vent without explosion.

From the pictures and YT videos I've seen, some protected cells and Li-Po explode like a powerful fire cracker.
Looks like Li-Po is the worst offender. Most Li-Ion just vent but some apparently pop.

 

[Myrany]

It's just not for me right now. I'm not putting anyone's else's preference down. I just don't have the knowledge yet for a mech mod and I'm acknowledging that. I know enough to know that at this point in time, I'm more bound to do something wrong then I am to do something right. What's wrong with that?

Please do not misunderstand I was not attacking your position. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it!

I was just trying to fill in some common knowledge gaps I see on ECF quite frequently. I do apologize if I came off hostile.

 

[DrillRX]

NicoHolic was being sarcastic.

I would hope so.


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[EddardinWinter]

I wish someone had the resources to film induced thermal runaway in all the popular batts to show which ones explode violently and which ones just vent without explosion.

From the pictures and YT videos I've seen, some protected cells and Li-Po explode like a powerful fire cracker.
Looks like Li-Po is the worst offender. Most Li-Ion just vent but some apparently pop.

I deliberately use nothing but IMR. Sure, they fail too. But they are far less dramatic in failure.

I won't ever use another Li-Po again for any reason. I am just glad the ones I bought before I knew better never lit me up like they are known to do. I am stunned at the number of posters who have no idea what continuous drain rating (CDR) their batteries are capable of. It really is a ticking time bomb when you ask a battery with a 10 CDR to push a low sub-ohm coil. I have had posters here tell me I am "soft" for "worrying about that stuff". They will tell me that, "the guy who sold me the mod told me these batteries were perfectly safe. They haven't blown up yet. When they get too hot I just take a break." Ugh.

Show me a perfectly safe battery and I will set you up with Katheryn Winnick and Ali Larter for the night.

 

[NicoHolic]

One of the reasons I sub-ohm 24 mg is that I can get work done while vaping. A hit or two and I'm good for 10-15 minutes. Of course, the first reason was because that's what it took to keep me off cigars and pipes. When I only had one REO Grand, it was a 0.5Ω coil and the 18650 would last me 15-16 hours... about the same as the 6 ml bottle in the REO. Same nic juice in a 2.0Ω carto and I can't put the mod down.

 

[emus]

I deliberately use nothing but IMR. Sure, they fail too. But they are far less dramatic in failure.

I won't ever use another Li-Po again for any reason. I am just glad the ones I bought before I knew better never lit me up like they are known to do. I am stunned at the number of posters who have no idea what continuous drain rating (CDR) their batteries are capable of. It really is a ticking time bomb when you ask a battery with a 10 CDR to push a low sub-ohm coil. I have had posters here tell me I am "soft" for "worrying about that stuff". They will tell me that, "the guy who sold me the mod told me these batteries were perfectly safe. They haven't blown up yet. When they get too hot I just take a break." Ugh.

Show me a perfectly safe battery and I will set you up with Katheryn Winnick and Ali Larter for the night.

Some think they are being safe by avoiding mechanicals and vaping on an expensive Li-Po regulated mod.
I don't feel that lucky.

 

[EddardinWinter]

Some think they are being safe by avoiding mechanicals and vaping on an expensive Li-Po regulated mod.
I don't feel that lucky.

Theoretically, it is safe. The mod should prevent the load on the battery from exceeding 2.5 or 3.5 or whatever the amp limit is. I would presume most batteries have a CDR greater than this. And so long as nothing goes wrong...it is safe. The problem I have is the explosive manner in which these batteries fail. So one nick in the insulation or whatever...and BLAM!