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Looking at getting into the rda rta game

Discussion in 'Rebuildable Atomizer Systems' started by Doctorvapes, Nov 21, 2017.

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  1. Doctorvapes

    Doctorvapes Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 8, 2017
    I'm still a little new to vaping, and have favored the idea in the past but am now pretty serious about rtas and rdas because I'm sick of blowing through smok baby beast coils and want a better experience.

    A little info...

    Me and my SO want to switch we both like to vape between 45 and 65 watts

    What kind of rda or rta would suit our needs?

    We both have 2 eleaf ipower 80 watts.
     
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  2. bombastinator

    bombastinator Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    With RTAs and RDAs you can put any coil type you want in them so that doesn’t narrow down choices at all. The mod does though because it’s narrow. You will likely want 22mm attys.
     
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  3. Fog n Vape

    Fog n Vape Senior Member ECF Veteran

    HI if you go the RDA route you will need to wrap your own coils, I don't know if you already know how but simple coils are usually a short learning curve, watch a few videos and the steamengine site, sorry don't have the link handy but someone will post it here, the coil and wick forum has lots of information.
    RTA have more options with some having rebuidable decks others factory coils and some can switch decks and do both.
    You can tailor your coil building to your vaping style leading hopefully to a very satisfying vape.
     
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  4. Mr. Relentless

    Mr. Relentless Super Member

    Oct 17, 2017
    Velocity or velocity style decks are nice to learn on. Watch a video on coil making and wicking. 26 gauge is a good starting point for kanthal wire. That's just my 2 cents.
     
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  5. -KT-

    -KT- Senior Member

    Oct 12, 2017
    Hi,

    I just got into RBAs myself and I really like the Mutation V4:

    Authentic Mutation X 4 V4 RDA Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer by Indulgence

    You can build it as dual coil or single coil. It comes with little plugs to plug off the air holes on the bottom. You can also run it as a velocity style deck, or you can turn the cap and block off the bottom holes and use the side air intakes.

    If you are building, you will likely want to keep your ohms high, since you will hit a limit on watts.

    I like to build coils. When I am lazy I will just build a single coil, put it in there, and block off the other side.

    That coil I think is 8 wraps of 26 around a 4mm core. I'm learning about wicking with rayon right now and I think it works better if the coils are kind of not more than 1.75 times as long as they are wide (according to the experts here.)

    Also - the coil is a little sideways on purpose. I installed it so it sits higher over the big hole and lower over the small hole. (The velocity holes are different sizes).

    Um, it leaks a lot. That's likely user error!
    [​IMG][​IMG]

    Sent from my R1 HD using Tapatalk
     
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  6. sonicbomb

    sonicbomb Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2015
    1187 Hunterwasser
    Your TFV8 comes with a rebuildable deck, so you already have a RTA available to you.
     
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  7. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    Yes but from what I hear that isn't the easiest build deck to start on. The OP may want to start with something with a single coil and a larger deck, perhaps?

    Anna
     
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  8. -KT-

    -KT- Senior Member

    Oct 12, 2017
    I can confirm that the TFV8 deck isn't that great to build on. I have one. I actually ended up not using it. The ohmage started jumping around because the positive post is literally pressed into position (not screwed on). If the press-fit gets loose like mine did, it renders the deck unusable. I guess if I had the right tools, I could fix it.

    But I figured that was a signal to learn about real RDAs.

    Sent from my R1 HD using Tapatalk
     
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  9. QcVaper

    QcVaper Ultra Member

    Jun 17, 2017
    Canada/Quebec
    I myself used the rba deck for a while and i barely just switched to a proper rta (limitless xl) difference is like night and day lol no shorting no issues with small deck nothing not even a single leak for now.
     
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  10. B Chon

    B Chon Full Member

    Experimentation is the name of the game with rebuildables. I'd argue that RDAs are better for learning to build on, as they tend to not be as finnicky with what will fit. As people have already mentioned, velocity style decks are a good place to start.

    I started on the TFV8 rba and quickly picked up a few rdas on the low ( Freakshow and freakshow mini for 12.99 a piece). Maybe something like a Watofo Troll V2 would be a good starting place. Browse around and look for well-received rdas at fair prices and you'll learn and you're bound to find one that suits you.
     
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  11. B Chon

    B Chon Full Member

    Freakshow RDA

    There's the freakshow I have, you'll need a drip tip as well. It's good for round wire builds.
     
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  12. Opinionated

    Opinionated Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Aug 19, 2015
    Just pick you an rta that has good reviews from actual users and buy you a coil master coil building kit and some 24 and 26 gauge Kanthal to start.

    Worry slightly less about ease of use and just make sure you have what people will say is a larger deck for building on..

    Whatever you learn on is what you will find easy down the road. It's not building the coil itself that is difficult, it's learning how to wick properly that takes more time to learn - and each individual rta has its own proclivities in that area.. so once you learn one you might have to wick each rta a tiny bit differently, it's the matter of learning the first one which teaches you though..

    Good luck and remember - proper wicking = no leaking. (Along with good orings)
     
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  13. Coyote628

    Coyote628 Super Member

    Sep 16, 2017
    Yeah, i have the tfv8 with the rba head. It is kind of tiny in there and gets tedious to build on. Plus, it can leak. There, i admitted to a smok leak. Lol. I bought a dead rabbit rda and i really like it. Coils mount on top of the posts, what could be easier. There are many good choices out there though
     
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  14. -KT-

    -KT- Senior Member

    Oct 12, 2017
    Agreed on the coilmaster kit. I got mine at Element Vape. Decent price and I ordered a Sony VTC6 for the Coilmaster 521.

    I then got some SS from Amazon because I wanted to do some TC stuff. I now need to get some kanthal.

    Also - pre-built coils are fun as well. You can experiment with different coil types and if you find something you like, you can learn how to build it. I'm liking alien claptons. So I will learn how to make the wire soon. [​IMG][​IMG]

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  15. sonicbomb

    sonicbomb Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2015
    1187 Hunterwasser
    The TFV8 RTA is one of the easiest I've built on, you cannot go wrong with velocity decks imho. Roomier than many I've built and very forgiving on wicking, I've never had a leak or a dry hit. I'm not suggesting it's the ultimate RTA, but I thought OP would appreciate that he already had an RTA without having to put his hand is his pocket.
    It goes without saying that RDAs perform better and are usually roomier, but not everyone is prepared to move away from the convenience of a tank.
     
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  16. -KT-

    -KT- Senior Member

    Oct 12, 2017
    Ah, the other thing about RDAs is that I think they just look cooler. Here's my Govad. I'm actually liking it with no drip tip. You just kind of hit it sideways to your lips and control heat by letting in some outside air.

    [​IMG]

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  17. KC0YNU

    KC0YNU Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 27, 2013
    McPherson, Kansas
    I was wanting to get into RTA earlier and this is what was suggested to me.

    Either the Ammit 25 or the Zeus (both by GeekVape) I have ordered both now.
    I also ordered the Coil Master tool kit with the ohm reader.
    also have book marked the Steam engine calculator page
    Coil wrapping | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

    Hope this help you out a bit @Doctorvapes
     
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  18. chanelvaps

    chanelvaps Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 3, 2013
    Burbank CAlifornia
    easy to built and flavor monster is the Aromamizer by Steam Crave. Dual Coil and I second using steam engine to get your specs right
     
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  19. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    Information Resources for Your First RBA
    • An essential read and referrance guide for someone new to rebuilding coils. Includes a multitude of useful links on battery safety, mod safety, coil meters, coil building, and the differences in the three types of RBA's.
    Innitially, keep you coil building simple. K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid) A simple single or dual coil build at around 0.6 ohm target resistance. Remember, the resistance of a dual coil build is "halved" -- two 1.2 ohm coils results in 0.6 ohm overall. Have an ohm meter to check your coil resistance prior to actually firing it on a mod.

    Once you have perfected your wire coil skills for a simple coil, you can experiment with more exotic builds later. IMHO, nothing really beats a simple coil though.
     
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