looking at new mod (mech vs. apv)

[Minnis12]

So Im fairly new to gaping but my wife wants my MVP 2 so I'm gonna order something else. Got a few 15-30w boxes in mind and also looked at some mech mods. I understand everything about the regulated power and voltage to resistence (I'm pretty nifty with electrics) I have a friend that keeps telling me to get a mech that vv/vw mods with that power take more experience to control but I don't see where he gets this? Any input would be nice. Just trying to get a second opinion. I feel comfortable with rebuilding and controlling the power. Thanks in advance
-Matt

PS. Admin can move thread if needed. I don't have enough posts to post in the correct section.

 

[Gunmerc]

I just got a Provari Mini and put a Kanger Aerotank 2 on it. It's pretty sweet.

 

[Minnis12]

I would like to use an rba at home but the way my job is I will use a protank 2 or similar most of the time. Im a railroad conductor so tinkering is out of the question for 12 hours a day

 

[doctadrea]

Mods with more power aren't harder to control. You'll still be able to vape normally at the same power as you did with your MVP, but you'll also have the *option* to go higher.
I think mechs are more advanced because they don't have the same safety features to check ohms, don't prevent firing when there's a short, don't stop firing when the battery is too low, you can't adjust the power according to different atomizers, etc.
I love my mechs, but I think they are for advanced users / people willing to put in more time and effort to monitor their batteries and build their attys.

 

[the budlet]

A vv/vw regulated mod uses chips to dictate (and limit) the setups power draw, coming with safety features to prevent battery failure. A Mech draws amps from the battery solely by the resistence of your coil and can thus potentially draw more power from the battery then its capable of. If your handy with electrics , ohm's law comes in super handy, for huge clouds I use a mech, for driving and nicotine delivery I use a regulated, hope this helps somewhat
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[Minnis12]

He was making it Seem like I would fry the chip due to my lack of experience? The ones in looking at have an auto shut off and I don't plan on sub ohming. I just ....s vape and have more control at any second over it.

 

[Minnis12]

Very helpful guys! Really appreciate the help

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

Regulated devices provide safety that mechs do not (short protection, battery management to name 2 things). With a 20-30 watt device, the vape would taste burnt if you went too high and that's about all the harm you could do with normal vaping. Anything else, and the unit would not fire.

Mechs require patience and attention. It used to be that they allowed a more extreme vaping experience, but that is now achievable with the higher wattage reg devices (which allow for lower ohm coils than something like the MVP does), unless you're trying to push the boundaries with a .2 Ohm coil.

Note that the topper (clearo, RDA, RTA, etc.) is a separate topic. Even the most advanced atty can be used on the regulated devices, although you'll probably hear of them being used on mechs by early adopters (that may change with these new devices becoming more adopted).

 

[EBates]

I just got a Cloupor DNA30 (hana mod clone) and just love it. It works well with my Protank, Puritanks, and Kayfun running 2.5 ohm coils. Have come nowhere near the 30watt limit, normally running 7-8 watts. VW is like cruse control on your car set it and forget it. The only complication is finding the sweet spot for your particular setup and juice, which you have to do with any setup.

 

[Minnis12]

I just got a Cloupor DNA30 (hana mod clone) and just love it. It works well with my Protank, Puritanks, and Kayfun running 2.5 ohm coils. Have come nowhere near the 30watt limit, normally running 7-8 watts. VW is like cruse control on your car set it and forget it. The only complication is finding the sweet spot for your particular setup and juice, which you have to do with any setup.

This is the mod I'm leaning towards and the friend telling mW this just got one. It vapes like a dream. On a different note. How long have you had yours and have you had any issues with it? Not many long term use reviews on it.

 

[MykOne]

I went with the APV over the mech per some of the reasons stated above. It's not that I cant figure out a mech mod. Im pretty much a jack of all trades master of none lol, but I went back to the main reason I was looking to upgrade and that was for reliability and durability. My research lead me to the Provari with the Russian 91% RBA. I only had it a few days now and its been great so far. It's something to look into if you want a VV and still be able to rebuild your own atomizer

 

[DoPeWAFFL3]

In addition to what everyone else has said above me, I find that you get a whole new flavor taste vaping out of a mechanical mod. This is just because you can rebuild your own device to make it suit your lifestyle. The only problem is, you cant use a 16mg nic liquid on a sub-ohm rebuildable.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

In addition to what everyone else has said above me, I find that you get a whole new flavor taste vaping out of a mechanical mod. This is just because you can rebuild your own device to make it suit your lifestyle. The only problem is, you cant use a 16mg nic liquid on a sub-ohm rebuildable.

yep, but unless you are twisting coils lower than the 20/30 watt devices allow (usually, they have a .5 Ohm lower limit, plus or minus), you'd get this same great flavour with the same topper on a high power device.

Good point about the nic level. Whatever you like with your MVP, bank on lower it with a high yield atty.

 

[wheelie]

I would just buy another MVP2. Then I would get a new fancy one. Hard to beat an MVP2. I have 2 of them, don't use them much but they are their if I ever need to. I will be taking them both with me deer hunting. Two years ago (still a smoker then) I got lost in the bush I hunted in for twenty years in the dark (-15 degrees Celsius and snowing) and had my phone going dead. Walked out of bush 12:30 in the morning 5 miles away from my truck with a dead phone battery.

 

[Minnis12]

Ya I read that somewhere high nic levels aren't good on higher output mods. I'm currently on 12mg nic but I'm gonna go down to 6mg next time I buy juice.

 

[Shootist]

I have a friend that keeps telling me to get a mech that vv/vw mods with that power take more experience to control but I don't see where he gets this? Any input would be nice. Just trying to get a second opinion. I feel comfortable with rebuilding and controlling the power. Thanks in advance
-Matt

PS. Admin can move thread if needed. I don't have enough posts to post in the correct section.

As to your friend, and his comment. Simply put he doesn't know what he is talking about. A Regulated device is Set It and Forget It. That is what the Regulated part stands for. It supplies the voltage and or wattage it is set to no matter what the battery charge is. The voltage and or wattage can be raised or lower as you like or desire.

 

[EBates]

This is the mod I'm leaning towards and the friend telling mW this just got one. It vapes like a dream. On a different note. How long have you had yours and have you had any issues with it? Not many long term use reviews on it.

I've been using my DNA30 since the end of June (just short of a month) primarily with my, also new, KF 3.1 RTA. I have no gripes with the DNA30 at all. It's been flawless even with my constant vaping. The only vaping issue has been with using 18mg juice with my KF. Had to buy 0mg to mix with my 18mg ADVs.
Using the PT and Puritanks the 18mg is fine as usual. Note the DNA devices will not go below 7 watts. I was concerned about burnt vapes using 2.5 ohm PT heads and a 2.5 ohm coil build in my KF, but to date this has not been a problem. I'm sure lower resistance atty heads would be fine as well.
So, the bottom line is LOVE IT. YRMV, but that's my call.

 

[Minnis12]

I've been using my DNA30 since the end of June (just short of a month) primarily with my, also new, KF 3.1 RTA. I have no gripes with the DNA30 at all. It's been flawless even with my constant vaping. The only vaping issue has been with using 18mg juice with my KF. Had to buy 0mg to mix with my 18mg ADVs.
Using the PT and Puritanks the 18mg is fine as usual. Note the DNA devices will not go below 7 watts. I was concerned about burnt vapes using 2.5 ohm PT heads and a 2.5 ohm coil build in my KF, but to date this has not been a problem. I'm sure lower resistance atty heads would be fine as well.
So, the bottom line is LOVE IT. YRMV, but that's my call.

Good to hear man! I've heard different reviews from different places purchased. I've heard good things about elev8vape so I'm Probly gonna order from them this week. Hoping to start with an RDA when I get the parts together. Drippin around the house like a pimp. Drip drop drippin