Looking for a hybrid mech mod

[KenD]

So, pretty much you said it has to be a matched set with threading approx the size of the battery.

It's more of a curiosity question. I have an Origin/Aqua combo which is a hybrid, and I have a tugboat style "faux hybrid". Believe it or not, the pieces mix and match... I can put the Aqua on the tugboat body, and the tugboat hybrid connector on the origin connector. Same with the king mod if I take the 510 off of that. I can put the aqua on several bases. It seems there are only a handfull of threading variations... there's the 20x.5, and 20x1 for most mod tubes. The hybrid atomizer seems to work with other hybrid bases.. so mix and match is possible, albeit ugly.

The SMPL mod I will still consider a true hybrid base against other's recommendation. The only difference between the origin and the smpl top part, is the size of the hole. They're both solid tubes, one has a 20x.5 thread on the top, the other has a 7x.5 thread at the top. The Smpl just doesn't come with an atomizer. The Tugboat and 4nine I'll consider Faux hybrid direct connect, since it uses an adapter to convert from the tube connection to the standard 510 connection.

No, the SMPL isn't a true hybrid. It isn't a hybrid at all. A true hybrid doesn't use a 510 connection at all, the SMPL does (as basic/simple as it is). On a true hybrid the battery simply can't short to the atty, whereas that's a very great risk with a direct to battery mod.

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[Bunnykiller]

Thank you for replies. Is there a difference regarding safety authentic versus clones. [I.e] are more expensive mods any safer than knock offs?

not really... its all about design and the application of the proper atty to be installed, along with a mechanically safe battery...
510 threaded "hybrids" used with a low protruding +pin atty is asking for some "excitement"...

choose wisely grasshopper...

 

[BreSha6869]

I have no experience using true hybrids (atty to battery) but I do have a few faux-hybrids such as the SMPL. I would expect more vapers would consider this type of device to be a hybrid than the true hybrids shown above in any case.

I really like my SMPLs and the $10-12 clones can be as good (or extremely close) to the quality of $120 authentics. The authentic Tugboat is a good <$100 faux hybrid as well.

I don't recommend this type of device to any vaper though. I don't see many reasons to go with a mech without a 510 pin (ideally adjustable) and if you don't know what you are doing, you can easily hurt yourself badly. I use my SMPLs fairly often but only with specific attys with a big@$$ extended pin. An atty short is a very real possibility with these devices.

 

[cdf294]

My apologies to the OP.
While this thread has gone from a "what should I get" thread to a safety thread, I do believe that it is critical to understand the differences in devices you are looking at. I quit cigarettes by vaping but if it cost me a finger, hand, or worse, that wouldn't have been an acceptable trade off.

I think things have become far more difficult and confusing (and dangerous) for newer vapers when choosing a mechanical device, especially considering all of these newer direct to battery devices.
The absolute bottom line for anyone looking at these new devices is this- if you can swap atty's on your "hybrid" while keeping your pin free top cap on the mod, be very careful and proceed with extreme caution. Double and triple check everything before even installing a battery in the device, for your own safety.

And just to throw one more idea out there, I have a couple of mechanicals with Kraken atty's that look like hybrids and hit just as hard, if not more so, than most of my true hybrids and they DON'T use a direct to battery connection but instead use adjustable pins. I am not in any way suggesting that you need to spend a bunch of money for similar results, just that it's possible to get very good results without the added danger of a direct to battery top cap.

I am going to point out what the user in the post directly above me said:
"I would expect more vapers would consider this type of device to be a hybrid than the true hybrids shown above in any case."

This, I believe, is where the basic problem lies. Most newer vapers probably have no idea what a true hybrid is, and that it is far safer to use. (no offense to anyone intended, including the person I quoted who also stated that they wouldn't recommend the device to vapers).

 

[bwh79]

The SMPL mod I will still consider a true hybrid base against other's recommendation.

Consider it what you want. They're not the same thing. The difference, is the positive "pin" that extends outward from underneath the top cap in a "regular" mech mod, or from the atty attachment on a true hybrid. Faux hybrids are more properly called "pinless mech mods" because they do not have this pin. The pin physically separates, by distance, the battery's positive terminal from the atomizer's negative outer threading. Since a faux hybrid device does not have this pin, the only thing that physically separates the atty threading from the battery is the teeny tiny gap provided by the atty's pin itself extending out past the threading, if it even does extend. That pin, that physical separation of distance between the battery and the threads, that is a safety feature. "Fauxbrid" mods do not have that safety feature, and so using an atomizer with a center pin that does not extend, or that doesn't extend far enough, or missing a thread and screwing it on slightly crooked, or using a battery with a dented terminal, or screwing it in too hard and denting the terminal of a perfectly good battery -- all of these things, on a mod without a center pin, can cause a violent battery incident when the threads, which are connected to the negative terminal by the mod's body, then contact the positive terminal as well, closing the circuit in a hard short that bypasses the resistance coil in the atomizer. We all know that a hard short is bad news. Mods without a center pin are more likely to experience a hard short. That little pin can help prevent it, and that is what makes the difference between a true hybrid (or any other mech mod, for that matter) and a pinless "fauxbrid".

 

[smacksy]

I like my 26650 BFM, (still polishes up real nice)

And my 18650 XXIX ...both use a hybrid top cap, copper contacts and magnetic switches....been vaping both for a number of years now...from Bay City Vapor ..

I always make sure the atty has a protruding pin with these mods..and of course I've had no problems at all..just my 2¢

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[KvK86]

I like my 26650 BFM, (still polishes up real nice)

And my 18650 XXIX ...both use a hybrid top cap, copper contacts and magnetic switches....been vaping both for a number of years now...from Bay City Vapor ..

I always make sure the atty has a protruding pin with these mods..and of course I've had no problems at all..just my 2¢

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Awesome mechs, you Sir, have great taste in mech mods IMO