Looking for a new clearomizer

[alorachan]

Since I started using ecigs a year and a half ago, I've used a few different clearmoziers, all of them in the end have had problems and have left me with just needing to find another one. I haven't done a lot of ecig research, so a lot of ecig websites, sadly, don't make a lot of sense...

I'm currently using a Kanger T2 clearomizer, which has generally been ok. I love that the coil is replaceable so I don't have to buy a whole new carto every couple weeks (first one I had was like that). The problem, however, is that the glue holding the mouthpiece to the threaded part of the cap eventually (sometimes after only a few weeks) deteriorates, or one of the tiny teeth the mouthpiece is glued to (to help the threaded part stay attached) snaps off. I wind up having to trash the whole carto because it won't hold liquid anymore unless I keep it entirely upright.

I asked a dude at a vapor shop when I was traveling and he recommended a few cartos to me. I've checked them out but I honestly can't tell which is the best. I'd like help from people who have experience with these.

• Kanger EVOD (1 or 2)
• Kanger ProTank (2 or 3)
• Kanger Aerotank

Ideally this is what I'd like out of my carto: easy enough to clean, replaceable coils, no leaking, good throat hit (I know this partially comes from the liquid, but one carto I had in the past produced no throat hit when a different one with same liquid was fine), little to no burning flavor, nothing super bulky (I have a pretty streamline battery, and right now my whole set-up is about the same diameter all the way down).

I'm using an eGo-T upgrade manual battery.

Anyone give their input on the listed cartos above? Or have recommendation for another carto to use? I'd be open to trying anything, but I'm also a little broke so bare the cost in mind when recommending others (already confirmed I can afford the ones listed above).

Thank you!

 

[alorachan]

The guy at the vapor shop also recommended Innokin iClear 16, 16b, 30, or 30b but I didn't really like the look of those. Perhaps I didn't understand their site very well?

 

[SteamWhistle]

The evod and Protank mini is almost the same thing aside from looks and Pyrex vs plastic. The Protank aero can work fine and runs the same coil as the previously mentioned tanks. All are fine tanks for everyday carry. I personally love the evod because I've had the least leaking issues with it. The iClear stuff is different entirely. The best I've used from them is the 30s. Not to be confused with the 30.

 

[edyle]

Since I started using ecigs a year and a half ago, I've used a few different clearmoziers, all of them in the end have had problems and have left me with just needing to find another one. I haven't done a lot of ecig research, so a lot of ecig websites, sadly, don't make a lot of sense...

I'm currently using a Kanger T2 clearomizer, which has generally been ok. I love that the coil is replaceable so I don't have to buy a whole new carto every couple weeks (first one I had was like that). The problem, however, is that the glue holding the mouthpiece to the threaded part of the cap eventually (sometimes after only a few weeks) deteriorates, or one of the tiny teeth the mouthpiece is glued to (to help the threaded part stay attached) snaps off. I wind up having to trash the whole carto because it won't hold liquid anymore unless I keep it entirely upright.

I asked a dude at a vapor shop when I was traveling and he recommended a few cartos to me. I've checked them out but I honestly can't tell which is the best. I'd like help from people who have experience with these.

• Kanger EVOD (1 or 2)
• Kanger ProTank (2 or 3)
• Kanger Aerotank

Ideally this is what I'd like out of my carto: easy enough to clean, replaceable coils, no leaking, good throat hit (I know this partially comes from the liquid, but one carto I had in the past produced no throat hit when a different one with same liquid was fine), little to no burning flavor, nothing super bulky (I have a pretty streamline battery, and right now my whole set-up is about the same diameter all the way down).

I'm using an eGo-T upgrade manual battery.

Anyone give their input on the listed cartos above? Or have recommendation for another carto to use? I'd be open to trying anything, but I'm also a little broke so bare the cost in mind when recommending others (already confirmed I can afford the ones listed above).

Thank you!

Given those 3 choices I would say take the Aerotank.


I recommend the miniprotank2v2; it's like a glass version of the EVOD but fully dissassembleable for cleaning and can change mouthpiece.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/edyle/6350-faq-1-what-tank-new-user.html

No point getting a protank 2 or 3 when there's an aerotank and anybody who has a protank2 or 3 often gets an airflow base for it effectively converting it to an aerotank.

 

[K-Space]

I use all three right now. the 30, 30s, and the aerotank v2. they all work fine.

 

[edyle]

The guy at the vapor shop also recommended Innokin iClear 16, 16b, 30, or 30b but I didn't really like the look of those. Perhaps I didn't understand their site very well?

Those are all plastic tanks; I wouldn't recommend them.

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

Bottom coil clearomizers, like the Evod, Protank or Aerotank are the easiest to maintain in my experience. Unfortunately however, I have yet to find a clearo that has never leaked. Eventually, when the coil starts to go, they have all leaked at some point. That said, with some more experience I'm sure I would have learned when to tell that the coil needed some maintenance before it got to that point. I moved on from clearos to cartotanks before I gained that experience though.

Out of the three first ones you mentioned, you will want to stick with the glass options. That would be the Evod 2, the Protank (all versions) and the Aerotank. The Evod 1 is made of plastic. Glass is better then plastic because there are some juice flavors that can react with plastic, causing the plastic to crack.

Now that we have eliminated the Evod 1, lets take a look at what is left. The Evod 2 uses a dual bottom coil. So does the Protank 3 and the Aerotank. The Protank 2 uses a single coil. Also in the Protank category is the Mini Protank 2 and 3. 2 uses a single coil and 3 uses a dual coil. Personally, I prefer single coils because they are easier to clean. Also, if you're feeling daring you have the option to rebuild the single coil versions, or a the very least you can rewick them with cotton for better flavor over silica. Some say however, that dual coils provide better flavor. They do in my opinion, but it isn't good enough to make up for the added difficulty in cleaning them. Dual coils also go through the juice much faster, as well as power. The pros just aren't worth the cons to me.

That would leave my choice between the Protank 2 and the Mini Protank 2. For added performance, you can get an aerotank base for either one (aeortank mini base for the mini) in order to have air flow control. Airflow control will allow you to customize the kind of draw you get, and is pretty valuable to have in a clearomizer. The Protank will hold more juice, but I found that the Mini Protank had the least amount of gurgling issues. With airflow control however, you may not get those gurgling issues.

 

[OddaKine]

I have the mini protank 3 and love it. I've heard issues with the Protank 3, so I'd go with the mini version

 

[atroph]

I'd highly recommend the Aerotank. I have had one for about two weeks now and have only gotten it semi-flooded (see gurgling) once due to a massive altitude change. Other than that it has been rock solid with consistent hits and 0 leaks. For the earlier flooding issue I have added a "falvor wick" consisting of ECRU peaches and cream yarn from WalMart. I used two strands that straddle the top coil in the unit. For maintenance I usually remove the coil and rinse it under hot water for a few minutes. I have the original silica wicks inside the coils so I dry burn them without the flavor wicks until the coils glow. Once they glow I let them cool and then replace the two flavor wicks on top of the coil, drop a little juice to prime the cotton wicks and re-install the head. All in all it takes about 3 minutes when I refill the tank. I usually do this nightly and it hits like new every time. I have the AeroTank on top of an iTaste vv 3.0 and to me (a noob as well) is it a perfect combo for a portable and convenient vape. IIRC the Aerotank has a slightly different design from the ProTanks that eliminates the bottom leaking on the battery and also prevents crushing of the coil head if you accidentally torque the unit down too much.

 

[conj]

I have the mini protank 3 and love it. I've heard issues with the Protank 3, so I'd go with the mini version

Currently waiting for one of these, what ohm coils do you use on yours?

Also thinking about an AeroTank Mini possibly.

 

[alorachan]

I have added a "falvor wick" consisting of ECRU peaches and cream yarn from WalMart. I used two strands that straddle the top coil in the unit. For maintenance I usually remove the coil and rinse it under hot water for a few minutes. I have the original silica wicks inside the coils so I dry burn them without the flavor wicks until the coils glow. Once they glow I let them cool and then replace the two flavor wicks on top of the coil, drop a little juice to prime the cotton wicks and re-install the head. All in all it takes about 3 minutes when I refill the tank. I usually do this nightly and it hits like new every time.

Sorry, I must be even more noob that you. I don't understand a thing you said in this section. LOL

 

[alorachan]

For added performance, you can get an aerotank base for either one (aeortank mini base for the mini) in order to have air flow control. Airflow control will allow you to customize the kind of draw you get, and is pretty valuable to have in a clearomizer.

What's the air flow like without? I am seriously bare-bones kind of knowledge on ecigs here. Like said, I'm using a Kanger T2 and an eGo-T upgrade battery. I do no modding, I... sadly don't really understand voltage, ohms, wattage...

Like, would the airflow of the protank 2 mini be comparable to the T2? I'm happy with the airflow of it, just sick of having to replace the entire tank because the glue deteriorates on the cap.

 

[edyle]

What's the air flow like without? I am seriously bare-bones kind of knowledge on ecigs here. Like said, I'm using a Kanger T2 and an eGo-T upgrade battery. I do no modding, I... sadly don't really understand voltage, ohms, wattage...

Like, would the airflow of the protank 2 mini be comparable to the T2? I'm happy with the airflow of it, just sick of having to replace the entire tank because the glue deteriorates on the cap.

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Ideally this is what I'd like out of my carto: easy enough to clean, replaceable coils, no leaking, good throat hit (I know this partially comes from the liquid, but one carto I had in the past produced no throat hit when a different one with same liquid was fine), little to no burning flavor, nothing super bulky (I have a pretty streamline battery, and right now my whole set-up is about the same diameter all the way down).

I'm using an eGo-T upgrade manual battery.

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Being able to adjust the airflow to your liking is important, just as being able to adjust the voltage.

You mentioned using the same liquid in two different tanks tasting very different; the difference was the ohms of the atomizer heads; if you have a variable voltage battery you would have been able to adjust

 

[atroph]

Lol. No worries I just learned this stuff in the past three weeks so don't feel bad. You will catch on with the lingo in due time.

I have used the T2 tanks and for I will will vape them to the point that I get dry hits, or a draw that tastes like wick and not my tasty juice. IMO a thinner juice with a higher % of PG do work ok in a T2 but I still will chain vape them dry sometimes.

When I first started out I upgraded to a T3S which is a bottom coil unit. Pros: consistant hits with minimal change of a dry hit. Cons: From the factory the wicks that are inside the coil are lacking and the unit will start gurgling which leads to a poor vaping experience. If you look at youtube for T3 gurgling you will see that the fix is rather simple and only cost me about $2 in yarn. ECRU yarn is unbleached cotton yarn. The brand name is peaches and cream and can be found at WalMart. What I do with my T3S coils and EVOD coils is take two small pieces of yarn and place it on top of the coil head. To see the actual coil head you have to remove the bottom part of the tank, then wiggle the metal chimney, from there lay two small pieces of cotton over the coil. You will see that there are two small silica sections there. I usually just get rid of those as they don't provide a good seal like the cotton does. Put a couple drops of juice on the newly installed cotton wicks and then push the chimney back on. Cut the pieces of cotton that is stick out so that it is flush with the silica sill inside the coil. Fill with juice and vape away.

The T3S and EVOD are good clearomizers, but the gurgling does suck especially for a beginning vaper. I have had good success just placing two small pieces of yarn over the coil.

 

[Grimwald]

My wife has been using T2s for 18 months. Here is the solution for the broken mouthpiece.

Kanger T2 Replacement Mouthpiece

I have been thru many different clearos. About 4 months ago I bought my first carto tank. All of my Evods, T2s, T3s, Protanks have been gathering dust ever since.

 

[Clark Kent]

If you go with the Protank2, get a airflow adaptor for about 4 or 5 bucks it will make it hit much better if you can adjust the airflow to your liking if you want somthing smaller go with the Mini PT you can still use the adapter even if it looks a little weird It still hits great.

 

[Flavored]

If you’d like to try a T3s with a spare coil, join CASAA, then go here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13495904

I also have Vivi Novas available. I took one of the T3s’s, recoiled the head and wicked it with the Rayon stuff, and it is vaping very well, no dribbles at all so far, have put about a tank and a half through it so far. Be happy to send you one to try, but be warned, you’ll want to start coiling them yourself after you’ve tried it (easy to do once you see it).

 

[SupahVapah]

I'd recommend the iclear 30...I've found some fundamental issues with bottom coil cearomizers like the kanger tanks

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[quorra82]

I'd recommend the iclear 30...I've found some fundamental issues with bottom coil cearomizers like the kanger tanks

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I just started using this tank Monday. Do you not find it to be a juice hog?

 

[Katya]

What's the air flow like without? I am seriously bare-bones kind of knowledge on ecigs here. Like said, I'm using a Kanger T2 and an eGo-T upgrade battery. I do no modding, I... sadly don't really understand voltage, ohms, wattage...

Like, would the airflow of the protank 2 mini be comparable to the T2? I'm happy with the airflow of it, just sick of having to replace the entire tank because the glue deteriorates on the cap.

Since you have an eGo class battery, I'd recommend an eGo threaded clearomizer because it will fit better on your battery.

Kanger T2 is a top coil clearomizer, while eVod, T3S, baby T3S and ProTank 2 mini are bottom coil toppers. I personally prefer bottom coils--I use and like them all. I find that T3S and eVods are the easiest to use. If you need glass, try the PT 2 mini.

If you want to experiment with dual bottom coils, try the eVod 2 glass.

On the subject of voltage and wattage, you may find this helpful:

Disclaimer: This is the most simplistic explanation and is addressed to new vapers or vapers who are happy within the recommended "just right" power zone (4.5-7 watts) and use stock coils.

Ohm's Law as it pertains to vaping is really not that complicated--and it's very useful when you want to know what you're doing.

Voltage and wattage are often misunderstood by new vapers. Wattage is the power (heat, sweet spot) that your PV (battery and atomizer) generates. Wattage = Voltage (of your battery) squared divided by Resistance (Ω) of your atomizer [P=V[SUP]2[/SUP]/R]. If you're not good at math, don't worry, use this easy calculator:

Online Conversion - Ohm's Law Calculator

Of course, if you own a VW (variable wattage) device, you don't really need this calculator because your device will do the math for you.

The wattage you want, especially at the beginning of your vaping career, should be somewhere between 4.5 and 8.5 Watts. Anything lower than 4.5 watts may not vaporize your juice properly and will not produce enough warmth and vapor. Anything above 8.5 watts increases the risk of burning the filler in your cartomizers (if you're using them) and even some juices, especially the delicate ones.

There are, of course, other variables, like eliquid and JDD (juice delivery devices) that you're using on your batteries. Seven watts on a filler type cartomizer may feel different than the same 7 watts on a fillerless clearomizer or a dripping atomizer. The same is true for different eliquids; tobaccos, chocolate and coffees generally require more wattage (heat), while fruit and other delicate flavors do better with less heat. Everyone's sweet spot is different--those are just very general guidelines.

If you are using dual coil atomizers, things get a bit more confusing. Dual coil atties consist of two coils configured in parallel, which means that a 2.1Ω atty is really two 4.2Ω coils--so you have to calculate your wattage based on the 4.2Ω number--not 2.1Ω--roughly. Dual coil atties require more wattage than singles, but not quite twice as much. They produce more vapor due to increased surface. I usually increase the power (wattage) by 30-50% when using dual coils; for example, if I like 6 watts with a single coil atty, I start at 8-9 watts with a dual coil atty. That's just my preference--YMMV. When in doubt--start low and adjust up as needed.

If you are interested in high wattage vaping, that's a different conversation altogether--and not my area of expertise.

Experiment and you'll find your own bliss in no time!

The chart below is a good guide to safe vaping, even though some think it's a bit conservative.