I'm just going to put it out there that i feel the pain of all the smokers out there stuck on analogs, which is why i want to join the e-cig family. i was almost sold on those blucigs til i found out they had a lot of faulty batteries and atomizers that break in a month (usually) and i wanted to find something that was more reputable than cool looking. I was looking at the Janty Mini Fogger, and was wondering if anyone had problems with those, in terms of atomizers and battery life? Also, was thinkin of a Joey/Titan 510 or whatever, but not sure if those provide any flavor cartridges? All in all, looking for a nicely built cartridge type cig with good reviews. Any insight is appreciated, thanks!!
Looking for quality and durability..which is the right e-cig for me?
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What are your smoking habits?
Is cost an issue?
Do you have expectations on the style of an e-cig?
Any other preferences?
What are your smoking habits?
Is cost an issue?
Do you have expectations on the style of an e-cig?
Any other preferences?
i smoke 7-10 cigarettes a day, budgeting under 80 would be great for a starter kit, a normal looking e-cig resembling a cigarette would be a must, i dont want to lug around a screwdriver, and as long as the e-cig has a good reputation of atomizer durability and battery life, ill be good.
The ones most like a regular cig. would be the mini's or super mini's.
The most popular of the mini's seem to be the 510. About the size of a regular cig. Auto batteries only activate when you suck on them, and are closest to the regular cig, however the manual batteries are becoming more popular with the 510 users. The manuals just have a small button you press to activate them. I have a 510, and like it. It does seem to use more juice than others to me.
I have a RN4081. Some people on this forum hate them like the plague, but it's my personal favorite. 102mm. 2mm over a standard 100mm cig.
I have a M401. The 401 is a hard hitter, but mine is unpredictable sometimes. Not a bad starter unit anyway.
The most popular e-cig on the Forum seems to be the 901. The 901 is considered a pen style, and is longer than a regular cig. but the battery life is a little better, and the cartridge is larger, so there's no constant refilling like the mini's.
The 801 is another longer unit unit with a large cartridge for less frequent filling.
All of these models give me a medium throat hit, and good vapor with my juice mixture. I have no issues with atomizer life on any of them.
Those are the basic models that I have, and others will jump in here shortly to give their opinions so you can get into this deeper.
EDIT; Here's a link to some of the models, pictures, and information;
http://www.vapeatron.com/e-cigarette-models/
The most popular of the mini's seem to be the 510. About the size of a regular cig. Auto batteries only activate when you suck on them, and are closest to the regular cig, however the manual batteries are becoming more popular with the 510 users. The manuals just have a small button you press to activate them. I have a 510, and like it. It does seem to use more juice than others to me.
I have a RN4081. Some people on this forum hate them like the plague, but it's my personal favorite. 102mm. 2mm over a standard 100mm cig.
I have a M401. The 401 is a hard hitter, but mine is unpredictable sometimes. Not a bad starter unit anyway.
The most popular e-cig on the Forum seems to be the 901. The 901 is considered a pen style, and is longer than a regular cig. but the battery life is a little better, and the cartridge is larger, so there's no constant refilling like the mini's.
The 801 is another longer unit unit with a large cartridge for less frequent filling.
All of these models give me a medium throat hit, and good vapor with my juice mixture. I have no issues with atomizer life on any of them.
Those are the basic models that I have, and others will jump in here shortly to give their opinions so you can get into this deeper.
EDIT; Here's a link to some of the models, pictures, and information;
http://www.vapeatron.com/e-cigarette-models/
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I have the 510 with the manual batt. I love it, it seems to work great for me. One of my atomizers did die after two weeks but it is getting replaced with no hassle from where i purchased (e-smokeytreats). You can fill the carts with your choice of flavored liquid, it seems to be a cheaper way of going then buying pre-filled carts constantly. the kit is around $60 and comes with 2 e-cigs, ull need the extra parts eventually.
My advice, which will differ from that of others, which will differ from that of others, which will differ from that of others, which will differ from that of others, is to get both the 510 and the Mini-Fogger which is a 306 model. They have interchangeable parts and you'll have many options available to you with just these two models combined in various ways.
As a side note, I don't think any particular model has any more atomizer issues than any other necessarily, but any atomizer of any model can be unpredictable.
Also, forget about flavor cartridges, because you'll be refilling your own in short order.
Which is why you also need to get at least 15ml of liquid first thing.
Pre-filled cartridges are only for rich people who have butlers.
Battery life is terrible with the 510 model.
So if you want a 510 and are worried about battery life, you have to get a Personal Charger Case (PCC) to solve those issues. Either that or you need to look into a mod that doesn't look anything like a cigarette.
Anything that looks like a cigarette has battery issues.
The bottom line is that they all have good reviews depending on what you want and who you ask.
I hear a 901 is good for flavor.
I hear an 801 is good for cartridge life.
I hear a 510 is good for vapor and throat hit.
And mods are good for battery life, battery cost, and vapor.
They don't look like cigarettes.
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Wow killer info guys. So it seems that some of these models are interchangeable (parts wise) with each other, and atomizers are unpredictable. So lets say i go with the mini fogger, do those cartridges that come with it, have the ability to be refilled? Or is there a separate cartridge that i need to buy to refill the liquid? Oh and the pcc sounds like a necessity, ill gladly invest in it. So what do you guys think, for a newb, starting with the janty mini fogger, and a pcc is a good idea?
Save money! Don't be like 90% of the people on this forum. Get a manual switch PV right off the bat.
Highly recommend a Modded PV, like Screw Driver, Prodigy, G.G., Light Vapor.... etc.
They are pricey, but so worth it in the long run.
Whatever you do, make sure it's a manual switch.
Auto switches are nice, but un-reliable in the long run. Also the "auto" toys cost more as far as battery "maintanace".
Highly recommend a Modded PV, like Screw Driver, Prodigy, G.G., Light Vapor.... etc.
They are pricey, but so worth it in the long run.
Whatever you do, make sure it's a manual switch.
Auto switches are nice, but un-reliable in the long run. Also the "auto" toys cost more as far as battery "maintanace".
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just saw a review on youtube on the dse901, looks pretty solid too. so you have to drip the liquid in the cartridge to refill it or what?
does the 901 or the mini fogger have a manual version? these black e-cigs with the blue led are sick looking, haha.
sorry about posting and reposting over and over, but i just came across the Janty Dura (Dura-C), any thoughts on this model? and Jim Davis, thats a really useful website u gave me, im all over that right now.
If you go for the 901 you will get a easy to use and ideal starter device. They come with automatic batteries in the standard starter kits. But you can upgrade later with manual batteries in many different types like screwdriver, prodigy, GG, Bully or what so ever. The carts are easy to refill and they keep more than twice the amount of liquid (equal to about 20 analogs) than superminis and mini foggers. The spare parts are cheap and you can get them from many stores. The 901 is also save to use with the dripping methode. This will mean, you use a blank, cartridge without the wool inside and you just drip two or three drops of liquid, directly in the vaporizer chamber. I own two of this one since 7 weeks and no parts died so far. I use one of them with a USB connector and I vape it just now.
I can recommand also the M401. Since you did not smoke more tha 10 cigs a day this might do for you. The M401 comes also with shorter batteries, then they are called M402 or 403. The 403 is the shortest and is quite the size of the analog cigarette. The M401 has the best battery live around (about 8 hours). This e-cig dishes out lots of vapor, nearly as much as the 901, but the carts are smaller (equal to about 10 analogs). It's my preferred "out the of house" device. I own 5 of this since 3 months and no dead parts yet, exept one battery DOA (replaced free).
The 510 is just a little shorter than the 901 and a little longer than the 401. It comes with manual batteries as well as automatic. I recommand to use the manual ones only. With the manual batteries it has the best vapor production of all the minis. Sadly, it has the same por battery live, as like the 901 (about 3 hours only). I cannot say anything about the life span of its components, because I just own it since two weeks now. My PCC is on the way, it is a must with this device. It would be a must also for the 901, but it's not availible yet.
Happy vaping
Oldie
I can recommand also the M401. Since you did not smoke more tha 10 cigs a day this might do for you. The M401 comes also with shorter batteries, then they are called M402 or 403. The 403 is the shortest and is quite the size of the analog cigarette. The M401 has the best battery live around (about 8 hours). This e-cig dishes out lots of vapor, nearly as much as the 901, but the carts are smaller (equal to about 10 analogs). It's my preferred "out the of house" device. I own 5 of this since 3 months and no dead parts yet, exept one battery DOA (replaced free).
The 510 is just a little shorter than the 901 and a little longer than the 401. It comes with manual batteries as well as automatic. I recommand to use the manual ones only. With the manual batteries it has the best vapor production of all the minis. Sadly, it has the same por battery live, as like the 901 (about 3 hours only). I cannot say anything about the life span of its components, because I just own it since two weeks now. My PCC is on the way, it is a must with this device. It would be a must also for the 901, but it's not availible yet.
Happy vaping
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I would ONLY consider a manual battery PV such as the Joye 510. The auto switch PV's such as the super mini's (4081's, etc) will have consistent battery problems over time and the batteries are not cheap. The Janty Dura-C is the same as the 510 but made by Janty instead of Joye. Since you are a light smoker I won't recommend the premier PV's such as the Prodigy, Screwdriver, etc which are considered the best PV's on the market. Here are some reputable suppliers of the 510:
e-Smokey Treats - Electronic Cigarette's, The healthy alternative to traditional tobacco cigarette's
Rocky Mountain Vapor you have reached the mountain top of electronic cigarettes! : Home
RUYAN Brown e-cigar with 25pc Cartridges - RUYAN e-cigar kit - Heaven-gifts.com Ruyandirect.com Best E-smoking Shop
www.eastmall.net - Eastmall International Co.,Ltd
e-Smokey Treats - Electronic Cigarette's, The healthy alternative to traditional tobacco cigarette's
Rocky Mountain Vapor you have reached the mountain top of electronic cigarettes! : Home
RUYAN Brown e-cigar with 25pc Cartridges - RUYAN e-cigar kit - Heaven-gifts.com Ruyandirect.com Best E-smoking Shop
www.eastmall.net - Eastmall International Co.,Ltd
Another vote for the 510 here. Simple and reliable. Its a great performing unit IMO.
Manual switches do save batteries as its battery doesnt have a hole where juice can leak into and ruin it.
They also dont have finicky little pressure switches that can hang open in your pocket and cause premature atomizer failure...Or at the very least a dead battery.
The drawback to a 510 is battery life. I dont think a half a pack a day habit will have too much trouble with a 510 though.2 charged batteries should last you all day.
Manual switches do save batteries as its battery doesnt have a hole where juice can leak into and ruin it.
They also dont have finicky little pressure switches that can hang open in your pocket and cause premature atomizer failure...Or at the very least a dead battery.
The drawback to a 510 is battery life. I dont think a half a pack a day habit will have too much trouble with a 510 though.2 charged batteries should last you all day.
Another vote for the M401/402 here. I own 510's and M401's and find the 510 very frustrating. I get almost as much vapor from the M series and from the 510 and much more flavor, not to mention numerous times the battery life. I also do many things while I vape that require use of both hands - cannot do that with any manual switch model.
All cartridges for the models under discussion can be refilled.
The PCC is made specifically for the 510 model.
But the Mini-Fogger batteries should fit in it too.
There are many ways to refill a cartridge, but essentially yes.
They have come out with, or are coming out with, manual batteries for the 401, 801, and 901 models.
The Dura-C is a 510 model.
so upon talking to some helpful members "mamacat" and "crash", im sold on a 901 for a starter kit, and you guys on here seem to go half and half on 901/510/m401. i heard about 510 bad battery life too so the 901 seems to be the good starter/budget e-cig. ordered a starter kit and LOTS of e-liquid off eastmall.com. will keep you guys posted when it arrives!
If you re read above, the OP stated that he didn't want a mod. And 90% of the people can't be all wrong.
please don't do what Closet Toker instructed, you need a cheap cigarette-looking device w/expensive,unreliable batteries and poorly fitting carts. You need to suffer through all this,like most of us did. You'll be a better and tougher person
please don't do what Closet Toker instructed, you need a cheap cigarette-looking device w/expensive,unreliable batteries and poorly fitting carts. You need to suffer through all this,like most of us did. You'll be a better and tougher person
Ahhhhhh - I get it. It's not a matter of what the OP want's. It's more of a matter of what *you* want him to have.
ej20rich - If ya want to ask me anything else, look me up. I'll be around.
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