Looking to delve fully into Cloud Chasing, but need your help!

[dykealiscious]

Well I've already got the rda I'm using, which is the Mutation X V2.

But, I saw someone talking about my battery of choice which is..
Amazon.com: 4 Efest Purple IMR 18650 2500mAh 35A 3.7v Rechargeable Flat Top Batteries: Electronics

Stating that I'd need more powerful batteries if I want to build down below a .3 or a .2 Ohm build.
Which batteries should I be going for, for the safest batteries and most powerful?

I'm also looking at buying these
http://www.amazon.com/LG-18650-2500...-2&keywords=18650+35a+battery#customerReviews

Are those true 35 Amperage batteries? Or just 35 Pulse?

IF NOT, where can I find true 35A continuous batteries? Because I am wanting to build down to .2 and .1 Ohms.

Mxjo makes a 35amp continuous with a 60a pulse I think. Madtown has them for 11 bucks. Dino , the owner, DID do tests against the Sony's and they perform damn near equally.

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[Jjshbetz11]

I could be wrong, but I do believe the limit on batt's these days is 30 amp cont.(think that's a stretch also).

 

[Neolithium]

Mxjo makes a 35amp continuous with a 60a pulse I think. Madtown has them for 11 bucks. Dino , the owner, DID do tests against the Sony's and they perform damn near equally.

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That 35A CD/60A Pulse is a 26650 not 18650. That's pretty normal for them. Their "35A" 18650's are also rewrapped LG HE2's.

 

[dykealiscious]

That 35A CD/60A Pulse is a 26650 not 18650. That's pretty normal for them. Their "35A" 18650's are also rewrapped LG HE2's.

Well them being rewraps is a rumor just like the rumor Sony never made the vtc's. You get equally as many people on both sides of the argument with no solid proof. "so and so told me" doesn't count. Actually I own

Several 35A mxjo 18650. They make 3 differently rated 18650.

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[dykealiscious]

Btw I didn't mean that to sound snarky. I'm always open to truth. Just sayin.

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[KenD]

There's no reliable documentation that mxjo manufactures its own cells. If you look at companies selling batteries you'll see that the ones who make their own are massive companies with many branches. Sony, Samsung, LG, Panasonic. Others, specializing in only battery technology, such as Efest and AW rewrap batteries made by the major manufacturers. As long as we don't have reliable information on the mxjos I think it's better to err on the side of caution and regard them as 20 amp batteries.

 

[Brandon Rauls]

Okay, to be on the safe side I guess I'm gonna drop the eFest batteries and go for MXJO's --Link below--

Will these be safe enough to drop down to .2 and .1 Ohm builds?
If not, PLEASE link me one that is a true 35A battery, because I've been looking, it's pretty ....in hard to find them.

MXJO IMR 18650 2500MAH 35A 3.7V FLAT TOP HIGH DRAIN BATTERY - MADTOWN VAPOR

--After reading the guy above, idk, man I'm a bit lost on which batteries to actually get. -_-
Where the hell do you guys even see that they aren't true 35A batteries anyways, like on the eFest ones, I looked everything on the info for them and saw nothing that even said that?

 

[Neolithium]

Okay, to be on the safe side I guess I'm gonna drop the eFest batteries and go for MXJO's --Link below--

Will these be safe enough to drop down to .2 and .1 Ohm builds?
If not, PLEASE link me one that is a true 35A battery, because I've been looking, it's pretty ....in hard to find them.

MXJO IMR 18650 2500MAH 35A 3.7V FLAT TOP HIGH DRAIN BATTERY - MADTOWN VAPOR

Any 30 amp CD battery will safely let you fire a 0.15ohm build. 0.10, you'd be pulling 42 amps and there is no battery on the market that has a continuous discharge with that. Those would be competition cloud chasers who have batteries with a 60A pulse rating. Ridiculous power IMO. For the MXJO I haven't found the white papers from the manufacturer. Half the vendors online that carry them say 35Amp continuous, the other half say 35Amp pulse.

All of my reading through the battery god pages here have led me to believe there are no 18650 35A continuous discharge batteries, the closest is 30A with a high pulse (60A), if someone has ACTUAL WHITE PAPERS from the manufacturer to prove otherwise, for the love of God link them so we can know. If you want guaranteed good 30A batteries, check out:

IMR 18650 Battery 30A Orbtronic SX30 Ultra High Drain Hybrid rechargeable Li-ion | Li-Mn

 

[Brandon Rauls]

^ With those batteries listed above, I can vape down to .2 Ohms safely right? According to Steam Engines Ohms Law I can vape at .2 Ohms at 5.4 Volts with 27A.

 

[Brandon Rauls]

Also, thank you EVERYONE for the help

 

[Neolithium]

^ With those batteries listed above, I can vape down to .2 Ohms safely right? According to Steam Engines Ohms Law I can vape at .2 Ohms at 5.4 Volts with 27A.

Well, the battery can take it. You'll have 27amps pulled out of the battery, and probably slightly less depending on voltage drop of your mod, my personal rule of thumb is Battery Max CD Amperage subtract 1 - 1.5 amps for fudge factor, and then I build my coils to those specs. That is when I was going that low, I'm a flavor monkey now.

 

[Jjshbetz11]

Just get a couple Samsung 25r's. The specks on them show a hair better then vtc5, if I read the spreadsheets correctly. Imo, the best Batt. you can get atm.

 

[dykealiscious]

Okay, to be on the safe side I guess I'm gonna drop the eFest batteries and go for MXJO's --Link below--

Will these be safe enough to drop down to .2 and .1 Ohm builds?
If not, PLEASE link me one that is a true 35A battery, because I've been looking, it's pretty ....in hard to find them.

MXJO IMR 18650 2500MAH 35A 3.7V FLAT TOP HIGH DRAIN BATTERY - MADTOWN VAPOR

--After reading the guy above, idk, man I'm a bit lost on which batteries to actually get. -_-
Where the hell do you guys even see that they aren't true 35A batteries anyways, like on the eFest ones, I looked everything on the info for them and saw nothing that even said that?

I trust dino the owner. Hes done tests on them. If he says they are 35 then I trust him. Having said that, you don't have to trust me. Email him at madtown or look him up here on ecf. Dinospinelli is his user name. Maybe he has new info or better options.

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[dykealiscious]

Any 30 amp CD battery will safely let you fire a 0.15ohm build. 0.10, you'd be pulling 42 amps and there is no battery on the market that has a continuous discharge with that. Those would be competition cloud chasers who have batteries with a 60A pulse rating. Ridiculous power IMO. For the MXJO I haven't found the white papers from the manufacturer. Half the vendors online that carry them say 35Amp continuous, the other half say 35Amp pulse.

All of my reading through the battery god pages here have led me to believe there are no 18650 35A continuous discharge batteries, the closest is 30A with a high pulse (60A), if someone has ACTUAL WHITE PAPERS from the manufacturer to prove otherwise, for the love of God link them so we can know. If you want guaranteed good 30A batteries, check out:

IMR 18650 Battery 30A Orbtronic SX30 Ultra High Drain Hybrid rechargeable Li-ion | Li-Mn

Have you seen white papers on those you linked? I've heard a few say they are crap. I'm always up for better bats.

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[Brandon Rauls]

Will I be able to to use http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005UAI372/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 on IMR 18650 Battery 30A Orbtronic SX30 Ultra High Drain Hybrid rechargeable Li-ion | Li-Mn batteries?

 

[dykealiscious]

If it were me I wouodnt go down to .2 with all the questions you have until you have experience running slightly higher resistence on batteries you do trust so you can gain some user experience. You kinda feel out the performance with time. That's just me. I've been building 9 months and consider myself to be fairly well versed and I won't go past .3 and I just gained confidence in all my equipment to go down from .7. I like to feel out all my mod/rda combos and batteries and see what works best for each setup.

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[Brandon Rauls]

xD I'm pretty dead set on .2 Ohms right now though, it's just a matter of finding the proper batteries now.

 

[Neolithium]

Have you seen white papers on those you linked? I've heard a few say they are crap. I'm always up for better bats.

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Yes. There was a user on the forums here who actually sacrificed one of his SX30's to prove they were VTC4's; I'm not going to screen through my gigantic browser history though to find the page. The Sony white papers are easy to find. 40 seconds on google if you take an extra 30 seconds to go to the washroom first.

There's also the MXJO website, themselves state the battery is 35A pulse.
http://www.mxjo.net/mxjo-imr-18650f...8.html?zenid=95afcc4cbf74e01e8d4fdbe58ab9e821

 

[dykealiscious]

Yes. There was a user on the forums here who actually sacrificed one of his SX30's to prove they were VTC4's; I'm not going to screen through my gigantic browser history though to find the page. The Sony white papers are easy to find. 40 seconds on google if you take an extra 30 seconds to go to the washroom first.

Cool no need. Your word is fine.

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[Neolithium]

Cool no need. Your word is fine.

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We need a battery standard around the world. Some companies use pulse some use CD. This is why people only wanted Sony LOL. What they said was what they guaranteed. I'm starting to get P/O'd enough to switch my efest to VTC3's now that a local store has them in stock and genuine...