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LorAnn Flavors- COLOR CODED Complete Ingredients List

Discussion in 'DIY E-Liquid' started by Mistress_of_Design, Jul 27, 2009.

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  1. Wow thank you for the list I'm sure your time and effort will pay off for me so thank you very much!!!
     
  2. daath

    daath Moved On ECF Veteran

    Dec 16, 2008
    Copenhagen, Denmark
  3. DeadbeatJeff

    DeadbeatJeff Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Mar 6, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    someone enlighten me: why is "water insoluble" bad?
     
  4. DeadbeatJeff

    DeadbeatJeff Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Mar 6, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    srs question is srs
     
  5. DeadbeatJeff

    DeadbeatJeff Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Mar 6, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    I mean, the solutions I use for DIY are 99.5%VG, plus whatever PG is in the flavors

    Is the worry that the flavors won't dissolve properly in that 0.5% water?
     
  6. daath

    daath Moved On ECF Veteran

    Dec 16, 2008
    Copenhagen, Denmark
    An example of flavors that are insoluble in water, are those that contain oils. Oils are unhealthy to inhale.
    LorAnn oils belong in the kitchen, not in our DIY e-liquids.
     
  7. DeadbeatJeff

    DeadbeatJeff Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Mar 6, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    sure, but just 'cause oils are water insoluble doesn't mean everything that's water insoluble is an oil

    And, for that matter, just cause something is called an "oil" doesn't mean it is a lipid or mineral oil, e.g. many essential oils and esters are quite volatile.

    What is wrong with something that is alcohol or VG soluble? I mean, I know that say the active ingredient in one of my favorite herbs isn't water soluble but is fine to inhale.
     
  8. DeadbeatJeff

    DeadbeatJeff Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Mar 6, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    e.g. peppermint oil (menthol, menthone, 1,8-cineole, methyl acetate, methofuran, isomenthone, limonene, b-pinene, a-pinene, germacrene-d, trans-sabinene hydrate and pulegone) can be vaporized without any concern, but is water insoluble.

    I've vaped essential oil of bergamont just fine... the grade I have is so volatile it evaporates in seconds from my skin. I use it with homemade black tea extract for... Early Grey, of course. Have had the same in my shisha (hookah) for years and years
     
  9. DeadbeatJeff

    DeadbeatJeff Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Mar 6, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    I actually plan to get white essential oil (ester) of cognac ASAP to use in my DIY. Have been slacking on it.
     
  10. Hoosier

    Hoosier Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 26, 2010
    Indiana
    I think you'll find that since mineral and vegetable oil inhalation might cause a lung issue that folks tend to think it means all oils and don't differentiate even though mint oils, except for wintergreen, have never been known to cause much of an issue.

    There is also a solvent that is often found in berry flavorings that plays nice with just about everything except polycarbonate plastic, so since flavoring with this in it doesn't dissolve well in water and folks seem to extrapolate that what is bad for polycarb must be bad for everything else.

    So from non-logical extrapolation and lumping all oils into one category, you have the notion that water soluble is the only way to go.

    There is even a forum manager on here that vaped nothing but mint oil based juice for 9 months straight and said so on here that did not change the minds of oil=bad folks, so I'm pretty sure the notion is here to stay regardless of facts.
     
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  12. jackieNC

    jackieNC Senior Member Verified Member

    Thank you for taking the time to make such a great, informative list! You're awesome!
     
  13. IronsideSamurai

    IronsideSamurai Full Member

    I am glad that you posted this. Even though I am not as concerned as others about the ingredients - it is good to know what flavors contain ingredients that are insaluble or is hard to breakdown.
     
  14. DeadbeatJeff

    DeadbeatJeff Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Mar 6, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    BE concerned. Just as a prime offender, diacetyl will cause permanent lung impairment, on the level of emphysema but with a popcorn smell, with long-term exposure in the single-digit ppm.
     
  15. DeadbeatJeff

    DeadbeatJeff Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Mar 6, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    Just cause vaping is less than a decade old doesn't mean people won't get permanently impaired by being ignorant.

    This "Whatever, it's still way better for you than smoking" attitude is TBPH asinine, cause I smoked cigs for 15 years and had nothing bad really happen to me. I don't want to know what happens if you vape conventional custard flavors for that long or longer.
     
  16. Hoosier

    Hoosier Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 26, 2010
    Indiana
    I'm 1/3 of the way to knowing what you don't want to know Deadbeat Jeff.
     
  17. DeadbeatJeff

    DeadbeatJeff Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Mar 6, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    but why not just try to create something you like just as much that isn't a known risk?
     
  18. DeadbeatJeff

    DeadbeatJeff Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Mar 6, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    TBH I'm getting a pretty creamy vape rt now from a nice cigar NET with a little Vanillin on top. Obviously not the most healthy choice either, I suppose. But I just really dig it in a 0.6ohm twisted kayfun build on a 350-sized mech. I feel like I'm actually smoking a nice blunt cigar that I can inhale.

    Once I get my new supplies Ima really get to it.

    What was my point again?
    :D
     
  19. badwolf91

    badwolf91 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 13, 2014
    Iowa
    i picked up the caramel and butterscotch and English toffee today just at a local place on impulse waiting for good supplies for inawera to come online but the caramel color in the butterscotch and carmel has me sad.. :( idk if its worth risking using them now from whats been read i have seen kind of mixed feelings. anyone that can help confirm? i have been sifting through threads so i just thought id post

    thanks guys, as said before great thread
     
  20. DeadbeatJeff

    DeadbeatJeff Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Mar 6, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    I honestly don't really like any of the LorAnn's I've used
     
  21. tayone415

    tayone415 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 9, 2013
    CA
    Based on this list for safe flavors I bought Loranns Coconut flavor, since it was all in green and water soluble, then was later advised not to use it because it had xanthan gum in it.
     
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