Lost in the valley of vaporizers...help!

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Where do you live? Your best bet might be to get something from China but that could take weeks to get to you. You might want to dig around on a site like My Vapor Store online just to get an idea of what is out there:

Starter Kits E Cigarette

...and once you see a set up that you like, try to find a vendor that will get it to you.
 

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Go to a vape shop and test out some sample mods and tanks and juices. Maybe go to a couple different vape shops if you can and try everything and see what you like. Your kind of asking a bunch of Chevy, ford, dodge, jeep, toyota, honda owners what's the best vehicle. I can recommend my favored set up but I'll leave it up to you.
 

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Also if you get a starter kit get something known like a smok, eleaf, aspire. My first tube mod was a moto plus. It worked great but never took off and coils became next to impossible to find. Im not a total smok fan but the coils are in every vape shop or smoke shop you walk into.
 

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Thanks for the replies so far. You are all awesome!
I realise its like asking what's the answer to the universe, life and everything! But when it doesn't work I start wanting to go back to ciggerettes and researching and buying is such a long process! Not like you can pop into to any 24hr shop for your nic fix!
So if I understand it I can buy a mod, tank and some coils. Questions:
1) does this mean all mods are customisable? In a sense you can adjust to cope with high VG, or high PG. Or if you want huge clouds you set it a certain way and when your at work you turn it down so your not a walking cloud?
2) Does a mod work with most tanks? Or only tanks from the same company?
3)Can you buy already built coils for all tanks? Or only some makes? So if you don't want to build you can just buy pre-made?
4)What tools would I need if I need to build myself?
Anyway again thank you. You saved me.
Slow it down Hmmmmmm.
Thick VG juice works with many newer coils. The Melo 2 { Stock Vertical Coil }I pointed out above will work fine with thick VG, as well as the Rebuildable Melo 2 horizontal coils.
Wotofo RTA ( Rebuildable Tank Atomizer ) will also take thick VG juice.
I would recommend 80/20 juice. (80%VG / 20%PG)
Any mod that has a 510 female thread,,,, will take any tank that has a 510 male threaded bottom....
3)Can you buy already built coils for all tanks?
98% of tank manufactures make Stock Coils for their tanks.
(( Some make an accessory RTA coil for the DIY coil builders...))

4)What tools would I need if I need to build myself?
$2.09 Coil Building Rods for RDA RBA RTA Rebuildable Atomizers - 1.5mm + 2.0mm + 2.5mm + 3.0mm + 3.5mm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
You wrap the coil around this.,,,, Then you'll want ( Needle Nose Pliers--- Nail clippers---Sissors---Tiny/Cheap Screw Driver set )
Now you need wire,,, 26 gauge Kanthal to start will be fine, and Cotton.
Bottom Line,,,,
Get what works first, (Learn To Fly)

Then start building and understanding coil ohms / ohms law,,,,,,,,,,, (Learn to Soar Like an Eagle)
 
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Like I said in another post, the cost comparisons between pre coiled heads and using an RTA is HUGE over time.

With the small Aspire bvc heads I get about two days worth of vaping before the air flow starts to tighten up and the flavor drops off. Maybe 4 days if I am not vaping like a fiend. With most of my RTA's I can get at least twice that before the coils get gunked up and I need to clean them, or I burn my wicking in half. I have several tanks and change flavors often so I end up recoiling or re wicking something every day or two.

And with an RTA I don't have to change the actual wire coil that often. I can just pull the cotton out, fire it up and burn the coil clean. Then put new cotton in it and I am ready to go.

I can get enough materials (cotton and wire) to last me about a year for around 15 bucks, probably less actually, I was rounding up when I figured it up. 100 ft of wire gives me roughly 150 to 200 coils at the resistance I vape at. At 4 dollars a coil head for pre made coil heads that comes up to around 600 dollars! I will keep rebuilding thank you very much.

I won't deny that using the pre built coil heads is easier, because it is. But it only takes me about 5 or 10 minutes to recoil and wick a new coil at this point. Would I want to it while out and about, heck no, what a pain. But while sitting in front of the tv or something it isn't a big deal to me.

Price of the tanks is about the same unless you going to get an original Kayfun, they are expensive. Otherwise you can get a decent rebuildable tank for between 20-40 dollars. The down side is as I found out today they are getting harder to find in local shops in my area. Nobody carries many of them, if any because the simply don't sell as many as the other style. One of my favorite shops doesn't even carry wire anymore WTF! So I guess I am getting my next tank via the internet. This will be my first vape purchase online. Everything I have bought so far for the past 6 years has been from local shops.

Oh, and some tanks you can do both on. Like the kanger subtanks. You can use a pre built head, or they have a rebuild deck you can screw in instead. I have two of those and they work pretty well.
 

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1) is changing carts at a high rate normal? Maybe not this often but what's normal.
2) if you buy an RDA? Like wick it yourself does that mean you get all the savings? Buy the tank and then just rewick?
3) some box mods are what 60/70? Why would anyone buy 400 dollar vapourizers? What does that give u?
4)can you get a vapourizer that handles any liquid? Like 100 VG, 70-30? I haven't found my ideal ratio. 100 VG sounds fun but not all the time especially at work.
5) the big one....can you recommend what to get please? Or should I keep v2 series 7? My ideal from what I know do far is mid price around 100 dollars, takes different eliquid blends, decent power but doesnt have to he too crazy, then the usual...good battery, good design...ie works well without stupid sht happening like batteries falling out. The bells and whistles like Bluetooth etc are not needed.
Is it possible to recommend exactly what to get... Like this vaporizer, this tank and this coil....as u can tell I'm a newbie and only half an idea what this all means! I'm willing to learn though! I just want a quality vaporizer with not much hassle....also buying carts isn't a problem as long as they last a month or so.

Thank you!

You basically got one of the more expensive systems to buy and run.

1. Yes, depending on how much you vape. Cartridge systems are expensive
2. You can buy an RDA to wick yourself or buy one with pop in wicks. Those are more than rewicking yourself but cost a bit more but cheap compared to what you have.
3. If you are asking the question, you don't need one and it takes too long to type out. Vape a while and read ECF and see if you need ont.
4. Start out with an eGo AIO. It takes wicks and coils prebuilt, easy to change and fairly cheap. It's about $30 and a good starting point. You can also refill it very easily and it doesn't take carts. You can choose any eliquid you like, from the cheapest to the most expensive (price on e-liquid isn't usually an indicator on quality. A $30 30ml bottle you don't like isn't generally "better made" than the $20 120ml bottle you do like).
 

Paul Mohr

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I replied before reading all the posts because what I wanted to say was fresh in my head and thoughts tend to fall out of mine fairly fast lol.

A few have mentioned having to get tools for building coils. You can build basic coils with nothing more than a small screwdriver set, you know the little silver ones that come in the plastic flip open cases for working on electronics and stuff. Normally 1mm to 3mm shafts on them. And a pair of nail clippers or good pair of small scissors. If you want to get fancy maybe some needle nose pliers and small pair of wire cutters. If you want to advanced builds like twisted, braided and clapton coils you will need a drill to twist the wires and a small vice to hold the wire while braiding it. My advice, don't bother unless you are planning to make really low resistance coils. Basic simple coils work just fine.

As for building a coil, there are numerous videos that show how to do it, or you can ask one of us and we will walk you through it. Can it be a bit fiddly at times, ya, I won't lie to you. You will make a few mistakes along the way and maybe do some swearing trying to get screws to capture the leads depending on the build deck you have. But trust me it isn't overly complicated. There is even a tank out that has spring loaded terminals for your leads that looks incredibly easy to build on. I don't remember the name, but I can look it up if you want me to.

Not sure where you live, but if you live near Adrian MI I would be happy to physically help you build a few to get you started. You might be able to find a local vape shop were someone would be willing to help you as well. One thing about vaping, almost everyone I have met is very helpful if you ask or look confused.
 

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    One thing about setting the V2 so high is whether this is indicating you could have the same issue with another unit or if it indicates you need a higher output device. When you first turn it up, it may seem a lot better, but as you're seeing performance degrades rapidly. You can't do that with any device, if it burns slightly at the end of every hit it will not recover. But more probably you desire more vapor so you're running this thing beyond its limits and as soon as performance decreases slightly it falls below acceptable.

    I was going to say you've probably bought it unless actually defective, but it seems a great return policy does come with the high price. OTOH if it was more reasonable, I'd say just keep it as backup.
     
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