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Discussion in 'Mech Mods' started by Vic Vape, Jan 11, 2018.

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  1. MacTechVpr

    MacTechVpr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Aug 24, 2013
    Hollywood (Beach), FL
    To be fair, we've all encountered unique producers in every genre unworthy of their craft. It's the principle I support, and not to encourage a categorical predilection for originality at the expense of mediocrity.

    Have no problems with business pursuing its own best interests in a responsible manner. It's transparency in advertising that matters however if they're not to shoot themselves in the process.

    For us it matters that a maker understood what we need. The very nature of a clone is that it's merely a rendition.

    Good luck. :)
     
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  2. CagedSpam

    CagedSpam Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 12, 2015
    FoPo, Oregon
    Well Said
     
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  3. homeuser6

    homeuser6 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 7, 2013
    brightwood,or.,usa
    I’ve never understood why some genuine mech mods are hundreds of dollars compared to their clone counterparts. It’s a brass or copper tube either way, you could make one yourself with a piece of pipe , am I right? They’re like a flashlight switch, not high tech at all right?
    you are right.

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  4. Equality 7-2521

    Equality 7-2521 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 29, 2013
    oakland ca.
    you pay for craftsmanship....for some people it's unimportant to others it's beyond price.just like there are tons of people who couldn't really notice much difference between eating at Denny's or eating at a 5 star resturaunt...and if by some odd chance they could notice a difference the difference in price would not justify the difference in quality....to them....whereas other people happily pay the price.
     
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  5. MacTechVpr

    MacTechVpr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Aug 24, 2013
    Hollywood (Beach), FL
    There's an ... for every seat when it comes to vaping. Nothin wrong with that. The more the merrier.

    Good luck all. :)
     
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  6. VaperTrailBlazer

    VaperTrailBlazer Full Member

    Jun 20, 2017
    Australia
    Yep. Couldn't agree more.
    As I see it there are 2 valid points in your post.
    1- When there is "brand recognition" at play whether it's sneakers or cars you're always gonna have people prepared to pay a premium for the badge. Human nature.
    2- Part of the reason I stopped smoking and took up vaping was due to the cost of cigarettes. So whenever I'm browsing a website and see a new bit of kit I've *absolutely gotta have* I have to remind myself of that.
    I expected I'd vape for a while to get off the ciggies, never expected it to become a hobby. It has so I don't mind dropping some bucks on it, but $400 for a mech mod? Na.
     
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  7. papergoblin

    papergoblin Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 16, 2013
    alabama
    I see one thing being missed about clones in regards to authentic. While it is bad that someone puts in an investment for making an authentic and sells for say $100 and then it's cloned for $25, I don't see lost revenue.

    The vast majority of clone purchasers, are not going to spend the money on a high end mod anyways. They would just find another low cost alternative to purchase. Having bought both I can't say I blame them to be honest, especially now.

    What good is a high end device with a lifetime warranty, when the company goes out of business? It's just a measuring contest in a lot of ways. Look at Provari and USA Made Mods, while there is still some repair being done, how long will parts last?

    Now as for OEM collusion proof is hard to find but let's use common sense on other things. Guitar makers like Fender for example make items from thousands to hundreds of dollars. They have their logo on all of them but they are not the same.

    An Asian made Fender is not the same as an American, yet they will go to great lengths to sell on their name. They in effect cloned themselves before they could become cloned, yet they are still cloned. So customers who do not live and breathe Fender don't know what they might be getting.

    Now look at say Vandy or CompVape, designed in one place and made overseas. There are only so many factories and most if not all, have a line(s) running something that isn't authentic. Majority of companies that do not want to be cloned, have restrictions on export not have their stuff made in Clone Country.
     
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  8. Asbestos4004

    Asbestos4004 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 11, 2013
    I was completely anti clone for a pretty long time. Something just wrong about it, especially when they copy logos and packaging. I still have an opinion about it, but I don't feel the need to forcefeed it on anyone. I know I tend to avoid clones....but...

    If there's an atty I want and the manufacturer releases 50 at a time to some secret group that I can only join with a DNA sample and a vouch from someone.....I'm all over the clone. In my opinion, that's just begging China to fire up the machines. I won't ever pay flipper prices and I'll never jump through one single hoop to obtain your precious little trinket. Logos and packaging be damned.

    Speaking of Narda, the yftk versions are absolutely fantastic. :D
     
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  9. MacTechVpr

    MacTechVpr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Always tried to support makers but ended up buying a lot of clones over the years. Mostly in the process of helping others get started. Still as I mentioned elsewhere I'd rather have spent that on mostly authentics all along. So I'm kinda running on a diff lane of that parallel track with ya A4. Bout one of the very best atty's ever for me's been 1:1 clones of the CEO FOG, an awesome producer and elegant. So much so I nev started on orig's 'till recently. But I hear ya on the subject of "brand" excess. It's really every shiny that comes along cheap or dear.

    Good luck. :)
     
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  10. Zutankhamun

    Zutankhamun Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 22, 2015
    Rapture
    Here to jump on the authentic vs clone
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    Everything cloned, or everything authentic?
     
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  11. MacTechVpr

    MacTechVpr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Aug 24, 2013
    Hollywood (Beach), FL
    You have to vape it to be sure.

    Send 'em over. :D

    Good luck. :)
     
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  12. Zutankhamun

    Zutankhamun Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 22, 2015
    Rapture
    ^The real Mccoys :)

    Does it make me feel high and mighty when I spend all this cash on simple metal tubes??? You bet it does
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  13. Zutankhamun

    Zutankhamun Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 22, 2015
    Rapture
    Obviously not...
    In fact, a little sad that everyone says these 1:1s are actually 1:1s.

    I had to initially spend €40 ish on a metal tube from gus and £50 on a kayfun lite.
    It was so worth it and I’ve never looked back.

    It’s such a shame that every single clone mech and rta has had problems.
    The dripper clones have had no problems though but my mechs have had dodgy switches and threading. The rtas fell to bits in my hands. Leaked, cracked and just ended up wasted money.

    Good luck on the people who get these great clones.
    You’re either lying or I’ve had bad luck.
    I think bad luck for me...
     
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  14. Asbestos4004

    Asbestos4004 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 11, 2013
    I don't use tube mechs anymore. Just mechanical squonkers and I build the ones I use. Floris Orcas for the enclosure, ModMaker for the 510 and Amazon for the copper sheets for contacts. For rtas, kayfuns and hurricanes are pretty much all I use and, so far, authentics have been readily available so I've got no experience with the clones. I've heard good things though. If I buy a clone of anything, it's sxk or yftk. Those are usually pretty good.
    I did buy some coppervape skylines when the real ones were always unavailable. They were really good as well .
     
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  15. MacTechVpr

    MacTechVpr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Hollywood (Beach), FL
    But for the the helpful advice mostly obtained here I would have dug a far deeper hole to throw the crappers in. Grateful as well to a few notables on the internet some of whom are represented here for their reliable assessment. Taken as a whole it's made some sound choices possible. So yeah, luck is preparation meets opportunity.

    Now all'a yas go learn to wind with tension (you'll thank me sooner or later).

    Good luck all. :D
     
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