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Discussion in 'Mom and Pop Vapor Shop' started by pwyll, Nov 30, 2011.

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  1. pwyll

    pwyll Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    So, for a specific reason I won't get into, I am trying various tobacco flavours. The first one I've tried is American Blend. I get no discernible flavour. It tastes almost exactly like undiluted VG--there's a bit of difference but it's so subtle I cannot really tell the difference without going directly from one to the other. Is this normal for most people?

    The colour looks like what I would expect and it's almost a week old, but I'm not really getting anything from it...
     
  2. pwyll

    pwyll Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Okay. Dropping in the Virginia Fire Cured is a much stronger flavour. It seems to me that they are exactly the same as this shows me what the difference is between the American Blend and straight VG. But it also "proves" I am not a tobacco vape person as the only difference I can tell between them is the intensity of the flavour. They both taste exactly the same--and make me want a real cigarette more than I have before in the six months since I stopped with the stinkies.

    And DAYUM does the 18mg sample hit hard when you're used to 10. My body is vibrating like I just finished chain smoking five or six ciggies but my mouth is telling me I haven't had one for six months...

    :lol:
     
  3. pwyll

    pwyll Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Yeah, definitely not a tobacco vape person. Went directly to the dark juice, the RYO, and it tastes exactly like the Virginia Fire Cured. Based on the descriptions and people's reactions, this cannot be right.

    At this point I am assuming that it is the 510's famous propensity to sacrifice flavour for vapour production and throat hit. I will wait for my IKV cannons to come in (with the 801 internals) and revisit the tobaccos with an atty that is designed to emphasize flavour.
     
  4. chatter97

    chatter97 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2011
    Woodstock Georgia
    Might also want to try dual coil atomizers. They have amazing flavor!!!! Are you dripping these into the same atomizer?
     
  5. pwyll

    pwyll Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Yes. I was using my GGTB as my dripper/taster, but my only 17670 decided to die on me, so the set-up I am using at the moment is a wood box bottom-feeder (Hog's Mod #13) with the bottle filled with unflavored VG. I drip the flavour to be tested, and once I am satisfied I have tasted it (generally 5 to 7 rounds of three drips a round) I vape as a feeder until the VG has gone through enough I get no flavour at all and then move to the next juice.

    I understand the inherent short-comings of not using a brand-new $8 atomizer for each individual flavour, but I am not rich enough in either time or money to do so as this round of tasting (seven different tobaccos--thanks for the extra samples, Scuba!) would cost $56 in atomizers and a week and a half to properly break in each one to be able to judge the flavours accurately. I did test the methodology before attempting to judge the tobaccos, and switching from Butterfly Bait to American Blend to Caramel to American Blend to Butterfly Bait gave me accurate flavours for the BB and Caramel with no contamination of any of them. This was a couple days ago when the American Blend was fresh out of the mailbox--while I had no experience with it, I did not get a hint of either the BB or Caramel when it was in the rotation.

    As I said, I understand the short-comings of using the same atty so I will not claim that this method gives me a "true" representation of the flavours in question--but I am satisfied that the flavours themselves are not cross-contaminating each other, at least not to the point that my results would indicate. Right now I am back to the Butterfly Bait and I do not have any indications of the tobaccos I was vaping earlier, so the flushing/cleaning seems to work adequately...
     
  6. pwyll

    pwyll Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Oh, and I am not trying any new atomizers/cartos for a while (other than what is already in the mail) as I blew a bit more than my vaping budget on atties and cartos during the Black Friday sales. Only new purchases for me on the horizon are stocking up on the BB to make sure I don't run out during our annual sojourn to Texas for the holidays...
     
  7. chatter97

    chatter97 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2011
    Woodstock Georgia
    I use the same method, unless I get lazy, then I just vape out the flavor mix for a while. Try to keep separate atties for coffees and sweets though. I was just asking, as putting one flavor into another can lead to no or little flavor till the other vapes out. I was just recommend when you get a chance to give these little puppies a try. I am in the same boat, blew out my December budget on Haze and black friday sales.
     
  8. P0P

    P0P Supplier Associate ECF Veteran

    Nov 23, 2011
    C'Ville Virginia
    LOL I was wondering why you order that stuff!!!


    :drool: Exactly Folks this stuff is not cotton candy period it is (BULGARIAN TOBACCO BASE ) with no Garbage in it!! and folks like that when they are getting off analogs that is the point with RYO it taste nasty. Frankly its not as bad as a real smoke!!( IMO) but good lord I will have nothing to do with it at this stage of my vaping. If you are missing the taste of an analog give the RYO (ashtray) a tug but you have been warned on this one. We just sold over 90ml this week alone. I can assume someone is using it as a base if not god love them LOL
     
  9. chatter97

    chatter97 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2011
    Woodstock Georgia
    Just buy the 'Haze'!!! That is all you will need!!!!
     
  10. pwyll

    pwyll Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    I've been curious about the dual coil atties since I like the dual coil cartos so much--but I've been very happy with the Vapage hybrids. I do think this atty is a problem, though--it tastes excellent when it's flooded, but it starts tasting "hollow" when it gets to the point at which atties are supposed to operate. It's one of the 510's J-Tek had on their Black Friday clearance for $3.60, so I don't know if this is the way 510's usually work (I've gotten so used to the '306 in 510 clothing') or if this is the reason they were on clearance. I may try one of the 306's I got from J-Tek, but the only hybrid I have left is on Hog #64 filled with BB and it's not moving. If the 306 doesn't work out I'll just have to wait for the IKV i06's and cannons coming in.

    I've got plenty of the dual coil cartos (both long and short) and I have some resurrectors coming in on a trade, but I cannot compare flavours using cartos because it takes so long to vape through the transition...
     
  11. chatter97

    chatter97 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2011
    Woodstock Georgia
    I picked up another stash of them on black friday, he had a huge discount for the weekend on everything. They so far have lasted longer than the ikens I had.
     
  12. pwyll

    pwyll Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    It didn't taste nasty to me at all. It was a bit smoky. Had a hint of tobacco flavour, maybe a bit ashy. The main thing it made me think of was the kiln-dried pine 2x4 you shave and split for kindling when you do the "fire in a campground" thing. But it tasted exactly like the Virginia Fire Cured, and even without the descriptions the differing colour of the juices would tell you that's not right. I don't know if it's the atty, my taste buds, or my vastly different experience of smoking than most people, but the American Blend, Virginia Fire Cured and RYO were basically the same things to my palette.

    By the way, are all your tobacco flavours made with WTA? For my purpose it's important that the flavouring at least be based on tobacco extract rather than simply artificially emulated. Thanks :)
     
  13. pwyll

    pwyll Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    I need as straight a tobacco as possible. This is not for enjoyment--I am looking for a way to disallow anyone from challenging my "no cigarettes since May 29th" :)
     
  14. pwyll

    pwyll Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    I picked up a couple of the IKV's to try since so many people rave about them (and the cannons would let me use 801's on the Hogs without an adapter). I picked up three each of the 510's and 306's from J-Tek because they were so cheap. But the straight 510's only seem to last me a month or so, and if the Vapage hybrids last four weeks I consider it defective--I usually get about 2 months from them, so I'm pretty happy with those :)

    'Course I usually get a month or two out of the dual-coil cartos, too, and people seem to act like two weeks is good...
     
  15. pwyll

    pwyll Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Well, it's about four hours past my bed time and I've got to get up in about three and a half to pick up the podling from her afterschool program, so Ima say "good night" and I'll catch you cats later :)
     
  16. BryanL

    BryanL Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 17, 2011
    Bellingham, MA
    So I'm not the only one using the vapage hybrids :lol:

    I bought 4 of them when they were getting rid of the 1st version 2 months ago and they're all still going strong... Although, I did order more from CoV last week... Love these atties
     
  17. Wuzznt Me

    Wuzznt Me Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Mar 2, 2011
    Twilight Zone
    Your assumption is incorrect sir. I bought 60ml of that 90 as an all day and wouldn't dream of putting anything in it to adulterate it, and I have been off analogs since slightly after my join date. Scuba also makes a special blend out of it for me that I vape after dinner. And God does love me.
     
  18. Scubac00da

    Scubac00da Forum Supplier ECF Veteran

    Pwyll,

    All of our tobacco's are made with either tobacco absolute or tobacco extract. RYO's base is tobacco extract and the others are tobacco absolute. I personally don't like (and actually am grossed out by artificial tobacco flavorings) and so don't like to use them. A ton can be done without using them and so for now, I choose not to use them unless I have to. I do use one right now but it is only added to the natural base in a very small amount. I am a firm believer that if it isn't necessary to the juice, DON'T add it to the juice period.

    -Scuba
     
  19. Scubac00da

    Scubac00da Forum Supplier ECF Veteran

    You tell him Wuzznt! God does love you and you are not the only RYO lover. The people who love it, order it by the gallon, lol. AND, I have enough people who love it that I am expanding that tobacco extract line to include more choices . . . coming soon!

    -Scuba
    [EDIT] hehehehe - I don't have to sign my name anymore!!!!! YAY!!!! Now I just have to get used to that.
     
  20. P0P

    P0P Supplier Associate ECF Veteran

    Nov 23, 2011
    C'Ville Virginia
    good night bud
     
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