So I have been doing experimenting for a long while now. I have tried a ton of different juices. TW menthol, DK menthol, all of the ecopure menthols............. and I hadn't found the perfect menthol. I thought that maybe I needed some tobacco in it to make it more natural because it seems like all the menthols I try are only menthol they don't really have a menthol cig type taste. So I mixed some tw tobacco with tw menthol and not too bad, but still not what I am looking for. I have experimented with creme de menth, spearment, pepermint, and combinations of them all and I just can't find that perfect menthol. Any suggestions?